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 Hi i am about to join the Air Force and do security forces, I have heard allot of talk about how the job can be really boring where it's just staring at a plane for gate for hours also that you get the worst hours. I would appreciate any feedback from anyone who has served or is serving that can get me some more info before i swear in. Thank you for your time I appreciate it


 


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Pursue a degree during your enlistment.

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Pursue a degree during your enlistment.


 


Thanks for replying, I plan on doing that as well.


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While I have not been there myself. . . . .I understand that the Air Force, along with the Army and Navy/Marines, have different duties for their "police officers".  Some are just security - standing around, counting rivets or blades of grass while other "police officers" actually do police work and then there are all the various "levels" in between.  So it just depends on which one of these "levels" you are signed up for as to what your level of "excitement" will be.


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  Thanks bMorgan i Appreciate your  feedback. Here is a little about myself and my goals.  


   My name Is Palmer Enockson, I am about to turn 21, i have attended the Metropolitan State College of Denver for 2 years studying CJ and Criminology i have always wanted to serve my country in the Air force and am about to enlist. My goals are to serve my time with the military and gain as much experience as I can wether it be in security forces or in another field. Also I plan to become a LE officer In my hometown here in Denver or anywhere else in Colorado. I have the greatest respect for service men and women who dedicate their lives for the good of others, and i want more than anything to become that person. Also, Thanks to everyone who replies or has replied to my post all of your information is very much appreciated.


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Another thing I meant to comment on is the the military could be a good career. Consider working towards a BS/BA Degree and becoming an officer. My son could not get his act together and has served in the U.S. Army for 14 years and it was the best decision he has ever made. Best of luck to you.

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 Thank you.

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Another thing I meant to comment on is the the military could be a good career. Consider working towards a BS/BA Degree and becoming an officer. My son could not get his act together and has served in the U.S. Army for 14 years and it was the best decision he has ever made. Best of luck to you.



Cheif .........I mean uncledennis I don't think I will ever get used to seeing that or using after you being  Cheif for so long!  LOL!

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 Hi i am about to join the Air Force and do security forces, I have heard allot of talk about how the job can be really boring where it's just staring at a plane for gate for hours also that you get the worst hours. I would appreciate any feedback from anyone who has served or is serving that can get me some more info before i swear in. Thank you for your time I appreciate it


 


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Palmer, I am current active duty SF member deployed over seas. PM me if you want some more detailed info. More than happy to help


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My best advice. If you're going into the security forces, try to get in the USAFE. The security forces overseas in Italy, Germany, and Japan have it made.

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It all depends on where you get stationed. The Air Force doesn't not call their policing units, Military Police, for the fact that they provide security to PL assets as well. If you are stationed with NUC weapons, so long police, hello fence checker. Your primary mission is to respond to any alarm/threat that the facility that encases the NUC encounters. Or if you are stationed at a base with a primary focus on A/C then you will be counting rivets and sitting in a truck, hoping someone crosses the red line. Flighline operations will be the pinicale of your career until you hit SrA /SSgt.  If you are at a base like myself, you will be in the police car working the 12 hour patrol bit. It is an entirely L.E. mission. No planes, no NUCS no PL assets. Strickly patrol. In short, as someone just coming into Security Forces, don't plan on sitting behind a patrol vehicle running radar/lidar or responding to the domestics/DUI's/OUI's until you have been a SrA or you land a base where L.E. duties are all that is run.


All in all, Security Forces have a week....A WEEK dedicated in tech school training to L.E. operations. If you joined for a backround in L.E. you will gain a small one, as well as the responsibilities of someone who works as an L.E.O. You will be given a very small foundation of skills to build on. Your work ethic will mature with the military life style. Working 12-14 hour shifts will well pre pare you for outsisde L.E. if you chose to do so, once your enlistment is up.


Also, you are on a full ride scholorship! USE IT! 1 class a semester for a 4 year enlistment will get you an Associates degree while you are in. FOR FREE! Take agvantage of it. Don't be do what I did and wait three years to get school going. Now that I have been in 6 years, I only have my associates, but I am also just shy of my Bachelors.


Good luck. Im am currently 6 year vet, SSgt USAF Security Forces. Feel free to ask me questions.

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Looks like the original poster is no longer with us, as what happens so often with our MP members at police link...most never seem to stick around too long

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(Bump Steveo16220:  Great advice and dead on accurate), good luck to you Palmer if your still on PL

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I am looking into Security forces for the AF. How do you qualify for the Ravens? and how do i make sure im not checking IDs and taps at a gate... i want an exciting job with the Security forces.

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Well unforntunately your career will start at a gate checking ID's or on a flight ramp guarding aircraft....that's just how it is. The chances of a low ranking new airman getting to ride patrol or get certified on patrol are slim to none. You would have to spend your first year learning your job and getting your upgrade training completed. As for the ravens I know that they have a few different bases that they are stationed out of which I believe are Dyess AFB, Texas and Little Rock AFB, Arkansas....and the training is up in Fort Dix NJ and last several weeks. Hopefully this helps....goodluck to you~

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thanks BICE59. does it help that i will be coming out of basic as a E3? i would like to be stationed overseas and wouldnt mind being in a war zone...

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No it still won't matter due to the fact of when you come out of basic and technical training school you will only have 3-level training.  Once you get to your first base you will be given material to study and learn to test for your 5-level training. Every enlisted security forces member starts off as a 3-level and until you get your 5-level your more than likely not going to be able to transition to other units within security forces such as K-9, Combat Arms Instructor, Investigations, Ravens and so on....any other questions you may have don't hesitate to ask


 


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Bice...   What do you suggest i do? My best friend and i are join and want to make sure we get the best contract possible. We would like to get stationed in England or even Florida. When i come out i would like to work in the government, FBI, DEA, US marshall, etc... do you think going to the AFSF will help? and what are some other questions i should ask my recruiter? feel free to email me

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Well in reference to your contract options, I would recommend contacting a recruiter so they can give you direct answers to your questions. I know that there are a few different enlistment options pertaining to the amount of years you are willing to serve whether it be a 4 or 6 year enlistment. Upon graduating basic training you will be given the opportunity to fill out a "dream sheet" which is just a list of places that you would like to be stationed at.......but......I will tell you that it is not guaranteed. At the end of the day wherever "uncle sam" needs you, that is where you will go regardless of where you want to be stationed. Going into the military will help you to some extent if your planning on continuing federal service BUT if I were you I would focus on obtaining a 2 or 4 year degree preferably a 4 while your serving active duty due to the fact that most of the agencies you listed require a 4 year degree. Hopefully this helps but the best advice I could give you is just to go and talk to your local recruiter.


 


Keep us posted


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WELCOME TO THE MILITARY!


Lots of boredom with spurts of shear terror, and occasionally osme partying.


Enjoy the wild ride...

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thanks. but i knew all that already. lol but thanks anyways. but i my next question is how do i qualify of get picked for special jobs such as counter sniper, dog handler, and others?

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Could take up to 2 years before you are eligible but that is subject to change if a certain position is critically manned or in need of people for those positions ie: Dog handlers, sniper school, combat arms instructors etc....

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I don't know about other branches, but in the Navy you have to recommended by a Kennel Master or Commanding Officer for K9 school.


It's much harder than you think. Most of my infantry guys I'm currently deployed with said it's much easier in the Army to get schools. Again it's a long hard road. Some schools require a certian amount of rank.


Righ now I'd focus on getting through boot camp and your school afterwards.


btw my last comment- you still don't know... because you haven't done it yet. you have a lot to learn yet, young grasshopper!

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That's how it used to be in the Air Force as well....I had to be recommended by my kennel master and ultimately approved by my unit commander before I was accepted into K9 school. That all changed around 08' for the AF, now all you have to do is log onto the "virtual career website" and can apply for different schools in a matter of minutes with no approval needed which I think is ridiculous.

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That's how it used to be in the Air Force as well....I had to be recommended by my kennel master and ultimately approved by my unit commander before I was accepted into K9 school. That all changed around 08' for the AF, now all you have to do is log onto the "virtual career website" and can apply for different schools in a matter of minutes with no approval needed which I think is ridiculous.



 


Wow.. that leaves anyone open to it, not only do you have to be selected but go through a board and an interview in order to get the recommendation usually.


Man that's crazy, too bad, that means Air Force K9 handlers can have some real bad eggs.

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That's right and trust me when I tell you that they do!!!! but after they send people to dog school it's up to them to become either a good dog handler or a "slug"

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I remember hearing that changed a few years back.  Like BICE059 says, I know when I was in not only did you have to recommended by the kennel master but also by your "flight chief" or shift sgt, which was then sent to the 1st sgt who had to sign off on it, then it went to the CSP (Chief of Security Police) to sign off on it.  Things have really changed there and for the worst in seems.  Too bad.  It was indeed a wild ride for me when I was in....soooo much fun.

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That's how it used to be in the Air Force as well....I had to be recommended by my kennel master and ultimately approved by my unit commander before I was accepted into K9 school. That all changed around 08' for the AF, now all you have to do is log onto the "virtual career website" and can apply for different schools in a matter of minutes with no approval needed which I think is ridiculous.



Wow I wish that was the policy when I was in the USAF. I got stuck doing aircraft maintenance on B-52s. I was a good troop and got a ton of recognition for busting my butt doing a job that I secretly hated =P. I was coming up for re-enlistment and asked for permission to cross train into either SP or Combat Arms and was turned down by my branch chief and my squadron commander... because I did such and awesome job and they didn't want to lose me! Long story short, they declined my cross training, I declined re-enlistment and I got out to be a civilian LEO. I would have happily stayed 25+ years and worked my butt off to make SMSgt or CMsgt and loved every minute of it.... ahh well =)


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God, never thought I would of wished i join Air Force ( no offense wingnuts)


Well when I finally get a K9, I've done so much to earn that.


I've climbed trees, picked up poo, carried doggie bags, ran dogs, gained and lossed weight, given the meanest dogs eye meds, baths, weapon training, obedience, drug, bomb, escort, patrol.... God i was the kennel maid for three years....


I've worked my butt off and i know when I get that recommendation in my hand... I EFFIN EARNED IT!

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Rate This | Posted about 3 years ago

 

a friend also told me of flight line... she said some parts of that are good but others are more boring. such as guarding a jet while standing at attention for 8 hours. bice... im guessing you SF? i also qualified for TACP, aka special forces.

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