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"Street code bars talking to police " Your thought?

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This week gangta rapper Cam'ron told us that "Street code bars talking to police " and that he would NEVER help the police, even if a serial killer out there and he know who it was.

What's your thought on that, and the facts that it seems to be a trend in some areas?

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We're experiencing a similar situation here. Here is one example: We had a shooting out in one of our high-crime areas of the county, and the shooting was seen by at least 4 people. NONE of them spoke to the investigators. It took the victim's father 2 days of talking to people to break the case wide open, and now there is a suspect in custody. WHY these folks would not talk to the investigators, but did talk to the victim's father is beyond me! This trend is more than disturbing, it is a personal and operational security risk to officers and the community. But how can we stop the trend when the "gangsta rappers" keep making millions by their works? Where do we draw the line between freedom of speech and inciting anarchy?

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My thought is that anyone who has information about a violent crime and doesn't come forward on behalf of justice and on behalf of the victims should be ashamed of himself or herself.

Anyone who refuses to cooperate with the law in these cases is protecting a murderer, and that is a betrayal.

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Here in Rochester we have had that problem for years. As a Victim Assistance Counselor the families of homicides have consistently complained to me that people will give them the info but not the Police thinking they are helping. This past summer one of our narcotics Sgts retired and gave his guys T-Shirts saying "Snitch Your A** Off"! He got a standing ovation when he presented that to them at his retirement party. There are two Judges that don't permit the Stop Snitchin shirts in court but the rest do. Amazing how the bad guys can wear those shirts but the families can't wear pictures of the vicitm because it "could sway the jury".

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Stupid is as stupid does....but yet it's always the leo's fault when "the killa ain't caught". oh please.

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well then maybe next time that the Baby's Daddy slaps the Baby's mamma in the head, they should call Gangsta Camron for help instead of the Police. just a thought

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Well Camron if you could can live with yourself by not doing so thats alright. Just remember when something happens to.......

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In our dept we have a system kinda like "nice cop\mean cop". We have two officers that make friends with some of the thugs in the city. The suspect will be arrested for something and the first thing they ask is " is so an so working tonight ". He can usually get all the information we need. The officer will go to court with the suspect and speak to the judge on his\her behalf, which in turn he just gained more " respect " from the suspect and their friends as well. The suspect didnt get any less of a fine or sentence, but just because he( wink, wink ) "stood up for them" was good enough. The system works very well here in some cases. May not work everywhere but cant hurt to try.


Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. .

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Huh.
Well, a few years ago, a little girl (3 years old) died at the pool in our community. It happened because she was not being closely watched. My daughter was 14 at the time and witnessed it, so did her 12 year old cousin. They were at the deep end of the pool, looked over to where the little girl was and saw her floating face down right next to her uncle who was busy playing with his girlfriend's baby and didn't even notice his niece floating inches from him, until another little girl said, "hey Mister? What's wrong with that girl?"
I told 3 different officers, and my sister (who performed CPR on the child) told them also. Nobody ever questioned our kids, no-one ever followed up. Nothing was done.
You talk about having problems getting people to talk to the police. Around here, we have a problem getting our local officers to act on what they are told.
Pretty messed up, if you ask me.


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What would you have liked done? Have the uncle arrested for taking his eye off the child for a second?

Anyone who is a parent knows that all it takes is a second of not paying attention for something bad to happen. That's not a crime, it just tragic and unfortunate.

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Her uncle did not just "take his eyes off her for a second". Let me elaborate. My sister was laying out next to the pool. All the kids had been playing a game called "Dead Man's Float" (are you familiar with it?...the kids float face down in the water pretending they are dead...it's stupid) Anyway, if you have ever been to a inground pool (and most of us at some point have) you know that if you are lying down near the side of the pool, there is a blind spot of the edge of the pool. There is a lip on the pool and if you are lying near the edge (like about three feet from the edge itself) there is a little bit of the edge of the water, where the water meets the wall, that you cannot see (hope that made sense) Martin (the little girl's uncle) was busy playing with his girlfriend's little boy and wasn't paying attention to his niece. The kids had all (including her) been playing dead man's float, but then the older ones left to swim in the deeper parts of the pool. Fully TEN MINUTES before a little girl got Martin's attention to ask what was wrong with Ariel, my daughter and my nephew had looked over and saw Ariel floating face down in the pool. It was a brief glance, and they assumed she was still playing dead mans float (after all, she was right next to her uncle,who was standing there IN THE WATER just inches away from her, so they never dreamed she WASN'T playing) My sister was lying on her towel sunbathing and could not see Ariel where she was floating....It was only after... when Ariel was brought to Martin's attention...and the kids looked over again... and my sister sat up, that she could see that baby floating in the water, and that's when our kids realized Ariel was STILL face down in the water, in the same place right next to her uncle, that she was ten minutes before, and they knew something was very, very wrong. Martin told the police he was not in the pool at the time, that he was out of the pool and after he saw her floating, jumped in to try and save her. His girlfriend and HER mom (who had both been drinking) backed him up, but my sister, my daughter, my nephew all said that was bullshit.
You don't know our PD. Sumpter Twp are lazy. They always take the easy way out. There are soooo many other incidents where they have just taken the easy way out. Two years prior to this, my own daughter had been physically assaulted by another kid....the police were only going to go talk to this other kid. The ONLY reason anything was done was I yelled at the officer (please pardon the language, but I am going to quote myself) "The f*cking hell you are going to just let this go! I want to press charges and if you don't get your ass in gear and DO something, I will go to the County or State PD and find someone who WILL!!"
Our local PD is a joke. It's probably alot of the reason why many (and the word"many" is an understatement here) people have moved out and into other areas. Our PD has made a bad rep for itself. There are officers in the dept that are commonly known to have drank and got high on the job, and even slept with underage girls (several of whom are now of age, and I know personally) One of my friends' dad used to be a cop in our local PD and he got fed up with the BS. He now works for a different PD, one he says he doesn't feel ashamed of. What does that tell you?


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Like SMW4747 said, it sounds like an accident to me.

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It was negligence, plain and simple. I am not the only person around here by a long shot who believes that either.But if the police refuse to do their jobs, there isn't anything us regular peons can do about it except be pissed to this day. He lied to the police. Maybe you should put an app to work with our local PD. Sounds like you'd fit right in.


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From your posts, it sounds to me like you take any opportunity you have to be critical of how the police act in situation.

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She's Very Touchy!!

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NYPD....Touchy, no. Only when it comes to this subject. You weren't there. It was no accident.
SMW.......no I don't take opportunity to be critical of the police. Our PD is a joke. There are some really good officers here, but they are very few. Had I known what a joke this dept was, I would never have bought my home here. I would have stayed where I was at before. My kids will tell you they would rather take a chance with a potential child predator than ask a Sumpter officer for help. They don't feel safe with our local PD, YET, they feel very safe with the county or state officers, or even the officers in our bordering towns.


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Saying "you'd fit right in" sounds a bit touchy to me. Lighten up, sister!

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Ok, NYPD, you're right. I apologize. That comment WAS uncalled for. Truce?


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Thank you.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((NYPD))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This is probably the only place I can sneak a bear hug on an officer without the risk of being aressted for assault.
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We are not having that problem so far. Even the "hard core" street people will talk to us. Now, they are less respectful to our road officers, but they at least treat us Narcs with common courtesy...so far.

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Can't we all just get along...... Cam'ron at some point in time you WILL need the Police, don't call us for help! Call all your homeboys, I'm sure they would be more that willing to help you!


"It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble."

"Well-behaved women rarely make history"

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It's hard getting info from a guy who has "Fuck Da World" on his neck.

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CPD's hit it right on the head. Half of me wishes that this guy would have a close call with a serial killer and have to get bailed out by he police. Wouldn't THAT be justice...!

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SMW4747 wrote:
""This week gangta rapper Cam’ron told us that “Street code bars talking to police ” and that he would NEVER help the police, even if a serial killer out there and he know who it was.""

Well, here's a thought to chew on SMW.....
How about this one....Two officers from the local PD here terrorized my youngest daughter on two separate occasions. She has since told everyone that if someone were to try and snatch her off the street, and only our local officers were around, she would not ask them for help....she would take her chances with the snatcher. Sad, I think, when your local PD can't be trusted. Our county mounties, however, are the bomb. So are our state boys. My daughter feels safe around them, just not with the local boys. And had I known how bad our local PD was, I never would have bought my home here. ( The state has come very VERY close to shutting them down on at least two occasions. )
Don't get me wrong, I am not comdemning all of you. There are some very good officers in this world....(like our county and state boys)....unfortunately very few of the good ones are in our local PD.
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You are missing the point. When the citizens refuse to talk to the Police, then they have only themselves to blame when they are victims of crime. The Police cannot and never have been able to do it alone and this trend is dangerous and helps only the criminal.

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Robo's right. Here in Philly, our officers try to connect to the comunity. But because most of the population is cop-hating "I'm-not talking" idiots, crimes and homicides go unsolved. An officer I know was going to question a woman for a simple vehicle problem. When he asked a neighbor "Who's car does this belong to?" He was given hardly an answer. If the people don't want to get involved in the simplest if situations, how will crime be fought? What is in store for society when evil is overshawdoing good? The officers, despite the public abuse they receive, continue to protect the public without any commendations from citiznes. They are the bad guys when they arrest the bad guys, and are frowned upon when they can't catch the bad guy. People used to have full respect for the law, what happened? They need to be educated on what LEO's do and what they go through. They need to get involved; we need someone who cares. With all the technology and ease if living, no one cares about the world; only theirs.

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I just hope someone good comes along before there are more than 2-3 murders a night.

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I am under the opinion that most LE are good people who got into their line of work because they have a real desire to protect and serve and make this world a better place. To those officers, I extend my undying gratitude for placing their own safety behind that of others, and for giving 110% or more to doing a job well done. My problem is with those officers who got into the line of work because they get high on the power. (We ALL know they are out there.... two of them in particular work for our local dept)
On that note, I have a question for any officer who wouldn't mind taking the time to answer it.... My youngest is deathly afraid of the two aforementioned officers (with good reason) and she has a heart problem. If, God forbid, I ever HAVE to call 911, can I request that those two officers definitely NOT come to the call, as their presence would put my child in a state of terror? There are 5 officers on our dept that she trusts and is not afraid of, but those two put her in a state of complete terror.
Thanks.
PS.. Oh and in reply to the post from to "Idealist"....If I could afford to move, I would. That is not an option for me at the present time.


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