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"Street code bars talking to police " Your thought?
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Posted about 6 years ago This week gangta rapper Cam'ron told us that "Street code bars talking to police " and that he would NEVER help the police, even if a serial killer out there and he know who it was. What's your thought on that, and the facts that it seems to be a trend in some areas? |
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| Posted about 6 years ago We're experiencing a similar situation here. Here is one example: We had a shooting out in one of our high-crime areas of the county, and the shooting was seen by at least 4 people. NONE of them spoke to the investigators. It took the victim's father 2 days of talking to people to break the case wide open, and now there is a suspect in custody. WHY these folks would not talk to the investigators, but did talk to the victim's father is beyond me! This trend is more than disturbing, it is a personal and operational security risk to officers and the community. But how can we stop the trend when the "gangsta rappers" keep making millions by their works? Where do we draw the line between freedom of speech and inciting anarchy? |
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| Posted about 6 years ago My thought is that anyone who has information about a violent crime and doesn't come forward on behalf of justice and on behalf of the victims should be ashamed of himself or herself. Anyone who refuses to cooperate with the law in these cases is protecting a murderer, and that is a betrayal. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Here in Rochester we have had that problem for years. As a Victim Assistance Counselor the families of homicides have consistently complained to me that people will give them the info but not the Police thinking they are helping. This past summer one of our narcotics Sgts retired and gave his guys T-Shirts saying "Snitch Your A** Off"! He got a standing ovation when he presented that to them at his retirement party. There are two Judges that don't permit the Stop Snitchin shirts in court but the rest do. Amazing how the bad guys can wear those shirts but the families can't wear pictures of the vicitm because it "could sway the jury". |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Stupid is as stupid does....but yet it's always the leo's fault when "the killa ain't caught". oh please. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago well then maybe next time that the Baby's Daddy slaps the Baby's mamma in the head, they should call Gangsta Camron for help instead of the Police. just a thought |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Well Camron if you could can live with yourself by not doing so thats alright. Just remember when something happens to....... |
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| Posted about 6 years ago In our dept we have a system kinda like "nice cop\mean cop". We have two officers that make friends with some of the thugs in the city. The suspect will be arrested for something and the first thing they ask is " is so an so working tonight ". He can usually get all the information we need. The officer will go to court with the suspect and speak to the judge on his\her behalf, which in turn he just gained more " respect " from the suspect and their friends as well. The suspect didnt get any less of a fine or sentence, but just because he( wink, wink ) "stood up for them" was good enough. The system works very well here in some cases. May not work everywhere but cant hurt to try. Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. . |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Huh.
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| Posted about 6 years ago What would you have liked done? Have the uncle arrested for taking his eye off the child for a second? Anyone who is a parent knows that all it takes is a second of not paying attention for something bad to happen. That's not a crime, it just tragic and unfortunate. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Her uncle did not just "take his eyes off her for a second". Let me elaborate. My sister was laying out next to the pool. All the kids had been playing a game called "Dead Man's Float" (are you familiar with it?...the kids float face down in the water pretending they are dead...it's stupid) Anyway, if you have ever been to a inground pool (and most of us at some point have) you know that if you are lying down near the side of the pool, there is a blind spot of the edge of the pool. There is a lip on the pool and if you are lying near the edge (like about three feet from the edge itself) there is a little bit of the edge of the water, where the water meets the wall, that you cannot see (hope that made sense) Martin (the little girl's uncle) was busy playing with his girlfriend's little boy and wasn't paying attention to his niece. The kids had all (including her) been playing dead man's float, but then the older ones left to swim in the deeper parts of the pool. Fully TEN MINUTES before a little girl got Martin's attention to ask what was wrong with Ariel, my daughter and my nephew had looked over and saw Ariel floating face down in the pool. It was a brief glance, and they assumed she was still playing dead mans float (after all, she was right next to her uncle,who was standing there IN THE WATER just inches away from her, so they never dreamed she WASN'T playing) My sister was lying on her towel sunbathing and could not see Ariel where she was floating....It was only after... when Ariel was brought to Martin's attention...and the kids looked over again... and my sister sat up, that she could see that baby floating in the water, and that's when our kids realized Ariel was STILL face down in the water, in the same place right next to her uncle, that she was ten minutes before, and they knew something was very, very wrong. Martin told the police he was not in the pool at the time, that he was out of the pool and after he saw her floating, jumped in to try and save her. His girlfriend and HER mom (who had both been drinking) backed him up, but my sister, my daughter, my nephew all said that was bullshit.
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| Posted about 6 years ago Like SMW4747 said, it sounds like an accident to me. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago It was negligence, plain and simple. I am not the only person around here by a long shot who believes that either.But if the police refuse to do their jobs, there isn't anything us regular peons can do about it except be pissed to this day. He lied to the police. Maybe you should put an app to work with our local PD. Sounds like you'd fit right in. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago From your posts, it sounds to me like you take any opportunity you have to be critical of how the police act in situation. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago She's Very Touchy!! |
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| Posted about 6 years ago NYPD....Touchy, no. Only when it comes to this subject. You weren't there. It was no accident.
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| Posted about 6 years ago Saying "you'd fit right in" sounds a bit touchy to me. Lighten up, sister! |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Ok, NYPD, you're right. I apologize. That comment WAS uncalled for. Truce? |
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| Posted about 6 years ago 10-04 |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Thank you.
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| Posted about 6 years ago We are not having that problem so far. Even the "hard core" street people will talk to us. Now, they are less respectful to our road officers, but they at least treat us Narcs with common courtesy...so far. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago Can't we all just get along...... Cam'ron at some point in time you WILL need the Police, don't call us for help! Call all your homeboys, I'm sure they would be more that willing to help you! "It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble." "Well-behaved women rarely make history" |
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| Posted about 6 years ago It's hard getting info from a guy who has "Fuck Da World" on his neck. |
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| Posted about 6 years ago CPD's hit it right on the head. Half of me wishes that this guy would have a close call with a serial killer and have to get bailed out by he police. Wouldn't THAT be justice...! |
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| Posted almost 6 years ago SMW4747 wrote:
Well, here's a thought to chew on SMW.....
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| Posted almost 6 years ago ? MOVE? On a need to know basis only.
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| Posted almost 6 years ago You are missing the point. When the citizens refuse to talk to the Police, then they have only themselves to blame when they are victims of crime. The Police cannot and never have been able to do it alone and this trend is dangerous and helps only the criminal. |
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| Posted almost 6 years ago Robo's right. Here in Philly, our officers try to connect to the comunity. But because most of the population is cop-hating "I'm-not talking" idiots, crimes and homicides go unsolved. An officer I know was going to question a woman for a simple vehicle problem. When he asked a neighbor "Who's car does this belong to?" He was given hardly an answer. If the people don't want to get involved in the simplest if situations, how will crime be fought? What is in store for society when evil is overshawdoing good? The officers, despite the public abuse they receive, continue to protect the public without any commendations from citiznes. They are the bad guys when they arrest the bad guys, and are frowned upon when they can't catch the bad guy. People used to have full respect for the law, what happened? They need to be educated on what LEO's do and what they go through. They need to get involved; we need someone who cares. With all the technology and ease if living, no one cares about the world; only theirs. |
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| Posted almost 6 years ago I just hope someone good comes along before there are more than 2-3 murders a night. |
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| Posted almost 6 years ago I am under the opinion that most LE are good people who got into their line of work because they have a real desire to protect and serve and make this world a better place. To those officers, I extend my undying gratitude for placing their own safety behind that of others, and for giving 110% or more to doing a job well done. My problem is with those officers who got into the line of work because they get high on the power. (We ALL know they are out there.... two of them in particular work for our local dept)
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