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I am currently pursuing law enforcement via school. My brother advises me to join the national guard to toughen up since I never been too physical as a kid. I'm interested in what the MPs duties are and the probability of deployment? Thanks in advance for your reaponses

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As a former MP I will try to do this question some justice. You will go to boot camp at Ft. Leonardwood Missouri for at least 19 weeks. 9 for Basic and the rest for MP school. You will learn several weeks of combat oriented training along with setting up and running prisoner camps. You will also have two weeks of Police school, where you will learn the basic law enforcement skills needed for MP.


I believe as of 2006 the Military Police Corp has transistioned from the primary Police and combat support role to a combative role in the military due to the governments bright idea to have civilian DOD police in charge of enforceing military laws . You are starting to see less of the Garrison MP units and more units that train for missions over seas. You will do a lot of different roles when you get deployed. My D.S. always told us we were like light infantry units with HUMVEES.


Any military service is a bonus when applying as a LEO but MP will teach you a lot more of the basics. You will probably see combat because MP units are deployed down range on a continuous basis so be prepared for that.


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Is it true that they are pulling our forces out? Also I was told national guard differs from other military units because they also serve in the states? If deployed, is it random whether you go overseas or stay in the states? Also how often are they deployed? Sorry for asking so many questions.

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It sounds like you are nervous about being deployed. 


 


 

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I'm not so much nervous about being deployed as much as knowing the facts before making a decision. It's true that I am slightly hesitant due the possibility of being deployed, but I am willing to serve my country and my community if they call on my services.

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it is true that in the national guard you could be deployed in the states like on the border and junk like that.  I was not in the national guard so I do not know there rotation schedules, but I can tell you that the Alabama National Guard has I believe 2 MP units. They deploy one after another. So when one returns the other goes and I know that it has been that way for years.


Here is what you need to do. You need to find out if you have a National Guard MP unit near you or in your state, IM SURE YOU DO. Now you need to go there and ask to speak to there Retention/Recruiting NCO for THAT MP unit. If you can't go there try to get a telephone number for that unit and call them. He/she will be able to tell you every thing you need to know as far as what the job of that MP unit does, how often they deploy, and answer other questions like that. He will also know who you need to contact the enlist. Good luck in what ever decision you make.


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It happens?! It  is what MPs do.


There is a possibility of being garrison-which is what I will be for the next four months- andhave been forthe last two years... then I go on a deployment. depending on what branch you could have a routation of what you get to do.


MP is not for everyone- lot of people get a bad taste in their mouth from it. But you'llget a G.I. Bill- money for college, you will have training,discipline and some job/real world experience-andman is it an experience.


Good Luck.


PM me if you have any questions or need any help!

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as a marine MP i can tell you there are two main side of the MP job the PMO side which is doing the normal cop work and standing post at the gate in the national guard i dont think you will see much for a PMO side of the job the field side which is where i am currently working you will deploy and work at a detention camp or something more like what i will be doing this fall and training the afgan police feel free to ask me any questions you have and i will do my best to get you a solid answer

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The only way an Army Guard MP unit is going to see garrison MP work is that if an active duty MP unit is deployed from a post where MPs are the primary law and order force, Guard units may be sent to fill that role while the active unit is deployed. This happens alot on posts in Germany, not so much on posts CONUS.


For the most part though, the Marine above is right...as a Guard MP, the overwhelming majority of your combat oriented missions will be more or less a "motorized cavalry" role (we did ALOT of light Cav gunnery prior to my last deployment) which is to say convoy security/combat logistics patrols, mounted combat patrols, route recon and security, fixed/static security and or force protection, and of course you are the ONLY mos (along with the 31E of course) that can perform detainee operations in a correction facility. You may also find yourself in a mentor unit (MiTT/IMBED) for Afghan National Police, Iraqi National Police, Iraqi Police, Kenyan Police, Somali Police, or some sort of Ministry of Interior police unit in theater. Your more specialized missions for MPs downrange are in MPI (investigations) roles, PSD roles (same as DSS or U.S. Secret Service), or in SRT role as a Quick Reaction Force.


MPs are battlefield security, they are not as trained for ground combat as the infantry, cavalry scouts, forward artillery observers, and certainly nowhere near as trained as Rangers, Recon Marines, LRS Soldiers, Special Forces, SEALs, etc etc etc. They do however have a very "modular" role in combat support operations...and if you know anything about the nature of today's modern battlefield, a combat support role and quickly and easily become full blown hostile contact at the drop of a hat.

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I don't know about what type of Gaurd MP units you have in your state. If you are interested in the law enforcement side check with your recruiter to see if you have a Law and Order Unit.  This type of unit is a police type unit that does not have a combat service support role.  The Gaurd MP unit that I am in is strictly a Law and Order Unit.  We do not have a combat service support role and the unit doesn't have any field gear in our supply. The heaviest weapon system we have is a 203 launcher.


My unit is broken down into the following sections; Military Police Investigations, Traffic Accident Investigations and Reconstruction, Military Police Desk Operations, PSD, Evidence Custodian, Patrol.  Last year the unit recieved certifications in the Taser, O.C., Baton, Handcuffing and Unarmed Self Defense, and several other areas of certification.  This year we just finnished 120hrs of Law Enforcement Certification on an installation with the Military Police / PMO (Emergency Services).  Our drills have been spent working with the MP's and training with them.


My unit is a Law and Order Unit that is very well trained in the area of law enforcement and that is evident with the unit having alot of civillian law enforcement offices in it.  Our future Annual Training will be spent working with the MP's and some DACP officers that are there.  We work very well with them both and they are highly thought of.  As far as a deployment, we have been told that an CONUS deployment is very much a possibility.  But also there could be an OCONUS as well but the CONUS would be more fesable.


From all the information that we have been told, there are alot of MP's comming home and they are going to get there law and order roles back.  Thats not saying DACP will no longer exists.  Also the MP school is starting to increase it's law enforcement hours since they realize that it was a knee jerk reaction to alot of MP's being sent overseas and that the school to short change the MP's in thier law enforcement role. There are 60,000 MP's in the army now and they are wanting thier jobs back which means there will be a lot of Military Police Officers for army installations.


Our unit is strickly a white hat garrison unit with a law and order mission. We still have several combat service support MP units in my state but even they get to perform law and order services at times. The law enforcement side of the Military Police is not gone by any means. As a matter of fact, once everything is done in Iraq and Afgan, there will be plenty of garrison MP's on the road performing thier law enforcement functions and they will be doing it alongside with the DACP.


So in the end just check with your recruiter and see if there are just any Law and Order units in your state or at least see if those units may perform both L and O along with combat service support missions. At least you will get to do some L and O as opposed to not doing any at all and you will get a feeling for both.


Good luck and I hope things work out for you.


 

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yes edward thats the army in the guard the chances of him doing PMO or any garrioson work is very slim maybe if there is a riot or some sort of disaster the state may call you to assist the local police but you will be doing field working with 50 cal. machine guns and deploying to afganastan not writing tickets and responding to 911 calls

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yes edward thats the army in the guard the chances of him doing PMO or any garrioson work is very slim maybe if there is a riot or some sort of disaster the state may call you to assist the local police but you will be doing field working with 50 cal. machine guns and deploying to afganastan not writing tickets and responding to 911 calls



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My unit was an Internal Security Detachment. We primarily did Law Enforcement, with a combat support role of TOC Security and EPW Transport. Internal Security Units specialize in stuff like VIP Protection, Port & Harbor Security, (Yes... MP's do Harbor Patrols) Security of "Sensitive or Restricted Areas", Convoy Escorts (When that unit is transporting sensitive materials) & Crowd Control (Goes along with VIP Protection). VIP Protection is great because you do a lot of plain clothes work and it prepares you for a career with the Secret Service.

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115 La. National Guard MP's left yesterday for a 1 yr tour of duty training Iraqi Police.  Please add them to the prayer list. 


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as a marine MP i can tell you there are two main side of the MP job the PMO side which is doing the normal cop work and standing post at the gate in the national guard i dont think you will see much for a PMO side of the job the field side which is where i am currently working you will deploy and work at a detention camp or something more like what i will be doing this fall and training the afgan police feel free to ask me any questions you have and i will do my best to get you a solid answer



i am currently mp for united states air force and jobs do vary.

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As a retired MP of 22 years Ten8 has hit the nail on the head.  The duties have changed and due to DOD Police there are no longer any garrison missions for MP's ,except active duty CID types that are out conducting investigations.  The National Guard used to go and augment garrison duties with the DOD  Police guys, but I don't believe they are doing that anymore?  I'm sure others here have or are saying essentially the same thing.


Once you complete your school, my suggestion would be to look seriously at the Coast Guard.  They are part of DHS and they conduct real world law enforcement operations on the high seas daily.  During War time they are under the operational arm of the US. Navy, but maintain their LEO Mission and port security missions.  I have no real idea of their mission status right now, but that would give you active duty training, with potential for deployment, but they would likely be short tours, as most deployments are nowadays, to reduce the stress on those deployed,  as per DOD.


The Guard has the duo mission of disaster response, so you may get to play some, but the emphasis is generally Combat Support or Combat Service Support Operations of Battlefield Circulation Control and EPW Operations.  The best advise is to check out all of the branches of service Active and Reserve and only after seeing what they can offer you and how that fits with your overall plan then you can make an informed choice.  Once in stay in and get the retirement, because there are very few jobs out here in the civilian world.  Good luck!


 

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115 La. National Guard MP's left yesterday for a 1 yr tour of duty training Iraqi Police.  Please add them to the prayer list. 


 


Prayers have been launched for their safe operation and return.  Thanks for your service guys and gals...


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115 La. National Guard MP's left yesterday for a 1 yr tour of duty training Iraqi Police.  Please add them to the prayer list. 


 


Prayers have been launched for their safe operation and return.  Thanks for your service guys and gals...



thread is 3 years old and Cat_D's remark is 2 years old, I hope they are back by now


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