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Ranger, you are a good man and a man of his word. Welcome Stangz. Glad you were verified.


"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, do nothing." Dante

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hey folks, like i said...i'm cool


i don't keep record of wrongs, or hold grudges, nor am i resentful. 


things were said in the past but we can, we have and we will move forward.


of course that could be applied in many places...


count it all joy!


and like others, obivously i must have missed something earlier too


kinda took a break...


anywho, thanks for the welcomes folks!


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"But I say unto you that hear: Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you. Bless them that curse you, and pray for them that despitefully use you." Luke 6:27-28

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group hug lol Can't we all just get along  

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group hug lol Can't we all just get along  



Oh. Dear. God. In. Heaven.



Andrea, you've managed to render me speechless - not that I talk a lot anyway.  LOL

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I try to be as respectful as I can on this website. I appreciate being a part of this community of LEOs and LE supporters. I know the dangers behind the badge and I respect those who wear it. I'll be going to the academy in October!


I just ask that those on this site could respect me and others with differing opinions as much as we respect you.


Thank you


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that picture just hijacked the thread...my gosh...they're so shiney! lol


Hbryant, you will do well in the academy sir...when folks ask me what they must do to be a LEO, i tell them first: you gotta want to be one, after that everything should be easy. if you want it bad enough, it'll happen. i'll be praying for you. we need all the GOOD help we can get.


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"But I say unto you that hear: Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you. Bless them that curse you, and pray for them that despitefully use you." Luke 6:27-28

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that picture just hijacked the thread...my gosh...they're so shiney! lol


Hbryant, you will do well in the academy sir...when folks ask me what they must do to be a LEO, i tell them first: you gotta want to be one, after that everything should be easy. if you want it bad enough, it'll happen. i'll be praying for you. we need all the GOOD help we can get


 


 


lol I couldnt find another pic. it was this or a bunch of old ladies. on second thought........... maybe i should've used them instead


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i mean they are still flexing in the hug...you gotta stop somewhere guys! arrrggghhhh...good one...goodidea to bring levity into the mix...mad respect for what you did....where were you last night! :)


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I was watching. But since im new here too I didn't want to get involved until I got a feeling of where things were going. Things seemed to have calmed down so i figured I'd weigh in with a little humor. I'm not taking sides. I'd rather remain neutral unless it involves things I'm familiar with personally or something I believe in.

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Totally understandable, Andrea.




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Aha! Could you imagine a group hug.There are now some 98,113 members on Police Link.I'm not going to dress like those dudes though,especially at my age.

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And we appreciate you not dressing like those dudes brother.

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I was watching. But since im new here too I didn't want to get involved until I got a feeling of where things were going. Things seemed to have calmed down so i figured I'd weigh in with a little humor. I'm not taking sides. I'd rather remain neutral unless it involves things I'm familiar with personally or something I believe in.



Sage advice you just lent there Andrea. I tend to just sit back and observe threads like that. If it is a post with a question that an answer that is not "loaded" then I will usually just assist without hesitation. But some posts give me a gut reaction to just sit back and wait, yesterday's included. Sometimes I don't like those gut reactions, because normally they are right on the money.

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WHEW......I didn't catch all of this as it was going on, so I just spent that last half of an hour catching up on things, which means that I actually had to go back and re-read Bills original post because I forgot what it was about.


Something about respecting others. My assumption here would be that respecting others includes respecting those that do not share our feelings and opinions. Correct??? This thread got a little bit off base, but it actually all fits in with the op.


As for Spencer...thanks for the verification and welcome to the site.


As for Ranger...he has proven that he is indeed a man ofhis word! He did exactly what he said he would, and I give him a BIG BUMP for that!!!


I too am old school when it comes to respect...it's something that is earned. However, just because a person may not yet have earned my respect, does not mean that they deserve "DISRESPECT." For those that haven't yet earned that respect, for you I will be polite unless of course you show that you don't even deserve that.


Have a good day everyone and as always...these are just my thoughts!!! stay safe.


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hey bump Glock for what you said about respect...


for me, even after someone shows that they are gonna remain disrespectful, or hold grudges,etc...i still remain respectful. i can only control me. i only have to answer for what i do. sometimes we let folks bait us out of our ways and then we are open for attack from everywhere.


someone else said it back on the first page about just being polite.


i have seen that deputy that pulled me over last year since then.  we were both in uniform this time. he didn't recognize me. i approached him and shook his hand.  once i told him who i was and described my car, he finally remembered. nothing disrespectful was said and we moved forward. i still have respect for that man.  the next time i saw him was at our Memorial for Officers. we shook again and showed mutual respect. i could have easily held a grudge against him but that would only hurt me in the end. i remember the incident but i'm not gonna let it change my more important relationship.


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Spencer I will say that I am intrigues by your outlook on handling conflict.


I understand where you come from, and even admire it in a strange way, but dont you feel people need held accountable?


In the boox of Exodus it clearly states "An eye for an eye" the law of retribution, and that it applies to all members of society no matter what their ranking.

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I believe that we should attempt to answer the question and after that let the chips fall where they may. 


At least give them enough rope to hang themselves.



I have to agree with this.  I can recall when I was working on getting the job and even after I was hired.  As a young LEO I asked some pretty stupid questions.   It does not take long to figure out if it is just a lack of knowledge or common sense or if the person is fishing and looking for trouble.

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Spencer I will say that I am intrigues by your outlook on handling conflict.


I understand where you come from, and even admire it in a strange way, but dont you feel people need held accountable?


In the boox of Exodus it clearly states "An eye for an eye" the law of retribution, and that it applies to all members of society no matter what their ranking.



Just my 2 (or 3 or 4) cents. :) I am not a religious scholar nor do I pretend to be, but I do believe I've heard it said that there are many contradictions in the scriptures--but they are only contradictions if not put in the proper context. I'm pretty sure Spencer can correct me on the specifics here.


From a secular and scientific stand point (a place I'm much more comfortable speaking about), holding grudges and answering call outs tend to eat you from the inside out (ulcers, hypertension, and unnecessary mental distractions). The older you get, the more obvious it is.




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mz66 says ...



Ranger719 says ...



Spencer I will say that I am intrigues by your outlook on handling conflict.


I understand where you come from, and even admire it in a strange way, but dont you feel people need held accountable?


In the boox of Exodus it clearly states "An eye for an eye" the law of retribution, and that it applies to all members of society no matter what their ranking.



Just my 2 (or 3 or 4) cents. :) I am not a religious scholar nor do I pretend to be, but I do believe I've heard it said that there are many contradictions in the scriptures--but they are only contradictions if not put in the proper context. I'm pretty sure Spencer can correct me on the specifics here.


From a secular and scientific stand point (a place I'm much more comfortable speaking about), holding grudge and answering call outs tend to eat you from the inside outs(ulcers, hypertension, and unnecessary mental distractions). The older you get, the more obvious it is.


I agree with the bolded part here Matt, and at times would love to live this way. But at the same time people need to be held accountable for their actions. This modern day philosphy of live and let live and turn a blind eye is a big part of what is causing the downfall of this great nation.


There needs to be accountability for words and actions.


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 I agree--no blind eye. That was my point about context in the first paragraph. 




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Thank you mz66 for your smart words and always thoughtful contribution to our community.  You always have a respectful demeanor toward LEOs and civilians alike here at PL.  No member should mistake PL's true strength.  Our LEO/Civilian interface is what makes PL a cut above other communities.  


No one likes to have their views dismissed publicly in a convenient game of ranksmanship.  


I was going to post sooner -  but I am very glad to see you were ALSO the recipient of heartfelt apologies for unwarranted antagonism, my friend.  


Folks need to chill out.  After all, no troll can reach through the monitor and chew off your leg.  


 

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hey folks, got a few graduations to attend here shortly but i will chime in...


ranger, i'm truly happy we can discuss things sir. yes i do feel that folks must be held accountable for their actions. however, when does it stop? i blew the doors off by saying i respected/support Common. why? because he came out and said he respected LEOs and military. if i was upset about his poem or that song, how long should i hold on to that? especially after he states otherwise.


understand, i am not walking around cheering for the man or blasting his music. if he says he doesn't feel that way, i gotta believe him. soooooo i respect him and move on. 


like mz66 said, not a blind eye. an open rebuke is needed sometimes.  romans_116 got me and i took his advice. a wise man accepts correction. i just don't believe in continuing to bash someone over the head for their past actions if they say they changed.


if Common comes out with a shady lyric in the future then he will have lost my trust in his statement. for now, i'm cool


some folks on here were "hating" on me and have now stated they are okay with me. i take their word for it.


gotta run!


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hey folks, got a few graduations to attend here shortly but i will chime in...


ranger, i'm truly happy we can discuss things sir. yes i do feel that folks must be held accountable for their actions. however, when does it stop? i blew the doors off by saying i respected/support Common. why? because he came out and said he respected LEOs and military. if i was upset about his poem or that song, how long should i hold on to that? especially after he states otherwise.


understand, i am not walking around cheering for the man or blasting his music. if he says he doesn't feel that way, i gotta believe him. soooooo i respect him and move on. 


like mz66 said, not a blind eye. an open rebuke is needed sometimes.  romans_116 got me and i took his advice. a wise man accepts correction. i just don't believe in continuing to bash someone over the head for their past actions if they say they changed.


if Common comes out with a shady lyric in the future then he will have lost my trust in his statement. for now, i'm cool


some folks on here were "hating" on me and have now stated they are okay with me. i take their word for it.


gotta run!



Spence, where did you find Common stating he respects LEO's? Just wondering(not fussing), I haven't seen that and would like to read it.


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Without beating this to death I have to say that most and I say that loosely, public figures like Common and I can think of many others do this to keep their popularity with the public so they can continue to make money. They actors, atheletes politicians apoligize publicly to keep the public off of their backs.


I would like to see where this poet has said those things also.


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I have no respect for any rapper/band/ whatever that disrespects LE. (In this case its Common) It sends a bad message to the youth of our country that listens to it. Im sorry but noone like this deserves any type of respect. LEOs have enough to worry about . In the 90s it was ICE-T with Cop Killer (his band Body Count) and NWAs (F#$% tha Police). It's gotta stop.

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Common is articulating race-rage based upon horrendous past injustices. Common is exposing a deep-seated need for vengeance called up front and center in the urban tilt toward bloody vigilante justice.  His gun-pride and cry of firebrand brigand is salted with gestures to his neck for the lynch rope, and to his back for the lash.  


It's nasty AND it deserves a close look.


This is very very serious stuff.  Should it be seen?  Yes.  Hosted in the context of 'The White House As Experimental Stage'?  Probably not. 


And certainly not during Police Week.


I am making it my business to see more of the man's work.  Especially now that staging it at the White House has informed it far beyond what Common alone could do.

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marlyb...you give some good insight on the matter


while i don't want to "hijack" this thread with the Common issue, it is good to be able to discuss it in a civil manner...


Common made the comment about respecting police and military on his twitter page. he has a huge following so many saw it.  i am simply taking him at his word.  that "letter" poem was at least two years ago and the other song was an older CD.  what he actually performed at the WH was totally different.


I am proof that people can change. look back two years and i was cussing and fussing. i wasn't as patient on calls. it can happen.


Ice-T is a good example of how artists just put on a show. he had one of the worst anti cop songs of all time. what is he known for now? portraying a awesome detective on TV.  if YOU choose to look back at his past, then you'll never see him as a talented actor.


and i feel you hit it on the head when you said "Common is articulating race rage-based upon horrendous past injustices". not all of us LEOs are the good people we would hope they were. there are some of us who do abuse their authority. and no i am NOT saying they deserve to be killed. i am saying that sometimes our own make people feel a certain way torwards ALL of us. not fair


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SpencerStangz says ...



hey folks, got a few graduations to attend here shortly but i will chime in...


ranger, i'm truly happy we can discuss things sir. yes i do feel that folks must be held accountable for their actions. however, when does it stop? i blew the doors off by saying i respected/support Common. why? because he came out and said he respected LEOs and military. if i was upset about his poem or that song, how long should i hold on to that? especially after he states otherwise.


understand, i am not walking around cheering for the man or blasting his music. if he says he doesn't feel that way, i gotta believe him. soooooo i respect him and move on. 


like mz66 said, not a blind eye. an open rebuke is needed sometimes.  romans_116 got me and i took his advice. a wise man accepts correction. i just don't believe in continuing to bash someone over the head for their past actions if they say they changed.


if Common comes out with a shady lyric in the future then he will have lost my trust in his statement. for now, i'm cool


some folks on here were "hating" on me and have now stated they are okay with me. i take their word for it.


gotta run!



I respect it, but I still cant understand it. I imagine it is a "healthier" to way live but I worry that it makes people not accountable. If I was you I would never have forgiven that Deputy that did that stop to you.


And if I was you I would refuse to have any conversation with me as well.


Glad you are able to live the way you feel is appropiate though.


I will just never be able to understand it.

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I do hope you have a way to let off steam. I envy/aspire to your degree of control, but I'd be lying if I said I believed that you weren't building up some energy that needed to be released.




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