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 I have gotten better too and I"m trying every day.  I"m really sorry for my past actions.  Sometimes I am bad about drawing conclusions way too early.  


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To expand on my above post, check this vehicle:


 



 


 


Does that mean that the NYPD or the MPD, or any other Agency that uses similar slogans will “respect” those scum bags in the street..? Nah… Rather, it means we won’t be disrespectful to you, unless you give us a reason to do so. Not because you “earned” our respect, but because as LE Professionals we have self respect, respect for the uniform, the badge and what those represent.


 


Bill is right on the money: We must not jump to conclusions… Just the same way we don’t do so in street, before evaluating all the facts.


 


I look at it this way: I will act professionally; I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to “earn” my respect…


 


 


 



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Hello Everyone,


I found this post to be quite interesting.   I haven't logged on here in months, when i did this topic was right on the top of the list. 


 When i joined this site a few years ago, i didn't hesitate to jump right in on the conversation's.  Most welcomed me on board without any hesitation/questioning. However there were a few that started with the "badge bunny" comments, or "TROLL"  etc. . If they would have looked at my info or read what I was replying to, they would have know that was the farthest thing from who I am, or why i joined.   


There were others that would post in the same forums that i was in, who you could tell without a doubt that they were 'badge bunnies, or Trolls'' .   


The truth seemed to bother some on here - actually one of them who is on this thread.  He pushed and pushed and pushed me into the 'Fight Club'  (and i had no idea what the fight club even was) I was new so he deemed me a badge bunny & Troll. . . We went to the fight club and he defended himself and the others. What got to me what that he started the argument over absolutely nothing (comical, isn't it).   Heck, i dont' even remember what it was about. But he wasn't going to stop until he got me in that room, and was able to swear and curse at me in the attempt to prove himself correct - no matter what.


.  In the end I won, and he was not happy, a few of the badge bunnies, n trolls were kicked off etc. . . The member continued to message me, calling me lovely names threatening  to kick me off PL.   Whoopieeeeeee   Like, WOW Whatever Dude, I began to doubt that this was a grown man i was dealing with.      I guess what I'm trying to say is that some people not only look for trouble or confrontation, they initiate it, because they seem to  thrive/power trip  from it. .  Back then i questioned what type of officer he is on the streets. I come back to the boards, and the same question comes to mind  when reading his posts.    


Everyone should be given a chance to input on here if they so choose. just because you may disagree with a post doesn't mean they are a troll - it simply means there opinion is just that an opinion, which could different than yours. 


If your the one who is always correct and can't handle being corrected . . .  you should probably be the one to move on !! 

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BUMP bill9823... With more and more long-standing members of PoliceLink aware of and spotting trolls and newbies and with each of us feeling as if we own a piece of this site due to pride and the long-standing status, we become protective, but we are ultimately not in charge. Advise those who come to us with ignorance (of not knowing) or intent to read the TOU's because they more than likely don't know the SOP's here and/or copy the thread and pass it on to a Moderator via PM. With all of that said, if you feel you have to make a comment so be it...


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I've been on this site for a while now and I've tried to act the way my parents raised me. That is, if I don't have anything nice to sayabout someone else here, I say nothing at all. I will occasionally call someone out when I feel it is necessary, but generally just ignore them. That's how it should be. Life'stoo short to do battle with people we don't really know so well on an internet forum.


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I've been on this site for a while now and I've tried to act the way my parents raised me. That is, if I don't have anything nice to sayabout someone else here, I say nothing at all. I will occasionally call someone out when I feel it is necessary, but generally just ignore them. That's how it should be. Life'stoo short to do battle with people we don't really know so well on an internet forum.



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I've been on this site for a while now and I've tried to act the way my parents raised me. That is, if I don't have anything nice to sayabout someone else here, I say nothing at all. I will occasionally call someone out when I feel it is necessary, but generally just ignore them. That's how it should be. Life'stoo short to do battle with people we don't really know so well on an internet forum.



bump. although we still do need a sarcasim font so people know when we're joking and not being rude


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I'm always a little disturbed by the phrase "respect has to be earned".  It is as if to say, "I am approaching you from the stance of disrespect. You must do something to counter my opinion."


A 'crisis in authority' is plaguing our society.  Law enforcement officers, physicians, school teachers and priests were once afforded respect as a matter of course.  Common civility dictated recognition of authority as part of a social code. Now our authority figures are told to 'earn respect'.   I won't say this reflects a cynical outlook, but it is corrosive and alarming. 


This is not to say authority should go unquestioned.  It is to say comportment is essential - how we treat each other, how we treat the man and woman on the street.  Fine manners go far in keeping society civil. 


PL is a crossroads of sorts.  People of all education levels show up here including the nearly illiterate.  A misspelled, badly worded, confusing and sloppy post looks like a show of disrespect.  Not necessarily. 


 


 


 

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I'm always a little disturbed by the phrase "respect has to be earned".  It is as if to say, "I am approaching you from the stance of disrespect. You must do something to counter my opinion."


A 'crisis in authority' is plaguing our society.  Law enforcement officers, physicians, school teachers and priests were once afforded respect as a matter of course.  Common civility dictated recognition of authority as part of a social code. Now our authority figures are told to 'earn respect'.   I won't say this reflects a cynical outlook, but it is corrosive and alarming. 


This is not to say authority should go unquestioned.  It is to say comportment is essential - how we treat each other, how we treat the man and woman on the street.  Fine manners go far in keeping society civil. 


PL is a crossroads of sorts.  People of all education levels show up here including the nearly illiterate.  A misspelled, badly worded, confusing and sloppy post looks like a show of disrespect.  Not necessarily. 


 BUMP !!! Well stated Marly !!! It's nice to see this come back up. Sometimes we do need to step back and take a deep breath.

 


 


 



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I'm always a little disturbed by the phrase "respect has to be earned".  It is as if to say, "I am approaching you from the stance of disrespect. You must do something to counter my opinion."


A 'crisis in authority' is plaguing our society.  Law enforcement officers, physicians, school teachers and priests were once afforded respect as a matter of course.  Common civility dictated recognition of authority as part of a social code. Now our authority figures are told to 'earn respect'.   I won't say this reflects a cynical outlook, but it is corrosive and alarming. 


This is not to say authority should go unquestioned.  It is to say comportment is essential - how we treat each other, how we treat the man and woman on the street.  Fine manners go far in keeping society civil. 


PL is a crossroads of sorts.  People of all education levels show up here including the nearly illiterate.  A misspelled, badly worded, confusing and sloppy post looks like a show of disrespect.  Not necessarily. 


 



 MarlyB,


You hit the nail on the head there. We used to have walking beat in my PD. When I was a kid we would do whatever it took to get out of the cop's way when we saw him coming. After I got OTJ the kids would congregate and I can remember actually being bumped by one as I was walking hrough the group. (I quickly "corrected" this indiscretion.) It was (and remains) as if they were challenging me.



 



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Bump... this should be pinned.  Great topic.


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Bump... this should be pinned.  Great topic.



It has been DonnaLynn, since the beginning


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Sorry bill... Someone poked me in the eye and so I'm visually challanged right now.


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Audiences craving scandal belly up to slurp at the media trough. 


"BAD COPS!" "DERELICT TEACHERS!" "PERVERSE PRIESTS!" and  "MEDICAL QUACKS!" sell better than the everyday contributions made by those having earned a mark of respect. 


It's no come-down to afford authority figures their measure of respect, and it is proper to expect it be reciprocated.  This tacit arrangement serves as the calling card of proper upbringing.  It also binds society together.


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MarlyB says ...



I'm always a little disturbed by the phrase "respect has to be earned".  It is as if to say, "I am approaching you from the stance of disrespect. You must do something to counter my opinion."


A 'crisis in authority' is plaguing our society.  Law enforcement officers, physicians, school teachers and priests were once afforded respect as a matter of course.  Common civility dictated recognition of authority as part of a social code. Now our authority figures are told to 'earn respect'.   I won't say this reflects a cynical outlook, but it is corrosive and alarming. 


This is not to say authority should go unquestioned.  It is to say comportment is essential - how we treat each other, how we treat the man and woman on the street.  Fine manners go far in keeping society civil. 


PL is a crossroads of sorts.  People of all education levels show up here including the nearly illiterate.  A misspelled, badly worded, confusing and sloppy post looks like a show of disrespect.  Not necessarily. 


 



 MarlyB,


You hit the nail on the head there. We used to have walking beat in my PD. When I was a kid we would do whatever it took to get out of the cop's way when we saw him coming. After I got OTJ the kids would congregate and I can remember actually being bumped by one as I was walking hrough the group. (I quickly "corrected" this indiscretion.) It was (and remains) as if they were challenging me.



 



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Bump!


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I've been on this site for a while now and I've tried to act the way my parents raised me. That is, if I don't have anything nice to sayabout someone else here, I say nothing at all. I will occasionally call someone out when I feel it is necessary, but generally just ignore them. That's how it should be. Life'stoo short to do battle with people we don't really know so well on an internet forum.



bump. although we still do need a sarcasim font so people know when we're joking and not being rude



Being sarcastic isn't being rude? Well, dang, I'm doing it all wrong then.      LOL 


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I've been on this site for a while now and I've tried to act the way my parents raised me. That is, if I don't have anything nice to sayabout someone else here, I say nothing at all. I will occasionally call someone out when I feel it is necessary, but generally just ignore them. That's how it should be. Life'stoo short to do battle with people we don't really know so well on an internet forum.



bump. although we still do need a sarcasim font so people know when we're joking and not being rude



Being sarcastic isn't being rude? Well, dang, I'm doing it all wrong then.      LOL 



Lol come on Donna. Get with the program, you can be rude to your friends, but just sarcastic to the newbies. Then for the people inbetween you have the overlay of sarcasim and rudeness


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In some people's mind you will never be good enough to earn their respect.   All deserve to be treated respectfully until you find out they do not understand what it is.     I for one hate sarcasm. It is meant to cut and hurt someone. It is never funny no matter how hard the person saying it is laughing. 


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Man.... like I told my youngin today... if everyone just gave each other a little benefit of the doubt and not take things too seriously.


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I know I so agree....God forbid someones feelings get hurt, we can't have that. Now let's all sing kumbaya....don't forget to hold hands.

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I have been here a week and I enjoy reading the topics also I got a lot of friend requests so its a really cool sight,but anyhow I joined because I decided late in my life to be a leo and  I am waiting for CJ classes to start I am running and exercising everyday and reading and listening to everything. I have in the pass worked as a correctional officer and I understand leo have there own brotherhood and I respect it,so I hope my very few dumb questions that I have posted are ok if not let me know...cheers

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bump. although we still do need a sarcasim font so people know when we're joking and not being rude



Bump -that's a dang good idea. 

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I know I so agree....God forbid someones feelings get hurt, we can't have that. Now let's all sing kumbaya....don't forget to hold hands.



Ok - I'll start. . . ♫ ♪ ♫


Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya

♫ ♪ ♫ Oh Lord, kumbaya


Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya

Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya

Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya

Oh Lord, kumbayah  ♪ ♫  ♪



 

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I always thought the respect was earned not given automatically.



HAHA SOoo true!! Esp in this type of work...

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Thanks for bringin this back up Matt. How did you know I needed to read it again?


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Everyone here was a noob at one point in their career. I came on here looking for legitimate answers and help and was strung up by some on here. Pounced on so to speak. I've also met some really great people too! I am not a troll, but someone who is in school pursing a degree and eventually employment in LE. Sometimes finding out information to lead one in the right direction can be overwhelming. And asking for a little help shouldn't be such an awfuk thing.


You may see questions as "stupid" but I'm sure you yourselves had questions when you first started, or were thinking about working in this field. Yes, respect is earned, not just on this site but in everyday life. However, a little civility wouldn't hurt. Like others have states on here, direct others to forums on here that might have the answers they are looking for if they need help, or answer them if you want. Give people some slack. If the posts are really out there then do what you want. I've read some that I'd like to respond to but am afraid I'd get banned from here for what might come out    As for the trolls, you guys do well hunting them down and getting rid of them.

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Thanks for bringin this back up Matt. How did you know I needed to read it again?



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But Matt ! I LIKE BBQed Troll !!!!


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Oh, so do I--but given our past history, we probably have enough preserved as jerky (pun intended) to last us for years.




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