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Me_and_sommer3_max50

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Posted about 4 years ago

 

I am currently working with a dog that is very active and has a high ball drive.  She loves to train and picks up on new training very quickly  but I am having an issue getting her to bark when she is on lead.  I have tried a number of things but doesn't seem to be working.  If anyone on her has any tips or any advice.  I'm all ears thats

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Rate This | Posted about 4 years ago

 

When exactly do you want her to bark? What is the bark supposed to represent. Are you doing SAR, apprehension work etc?


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Me_and_sommer3_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 4 years ago

 

I'm doing a lot of SAR work with her but right now we have started apprehension and handler protection. She skips the bark and goes right for the bite. Have tried a couple different things and it didn't seem to work. As for SAR she finds the subject just fine but won't signal on that either. Most of the time she does a re find but one the times she doesn't makes it alittle harder

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Rate This | Posted about 4 years ago

 

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by: "She skips the bark and goes right for the bite.". Who is in charge, the dog or the handler? If the handler is in charge, then you need to make the dog stay in the sit position until you release it for a bite. That should cause enough frustration to make the dog bark. Reward the bark with a bite. By letting the dog skip the bark and go right for the bite, you've allowed the dog to reward what IT wants to do. Not the best technique for building control.


 


 


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She just doesnt bark.  She will if someong gets to close to car but when on lead she will tug and wine but doesnt bark. She will just sit there untill released.  But if  i am touched then she will go nuts.  I was told that alot of imports don't bark  but i have seen alot that that's all they do.  ive tried tieing her up and trying to get her worked up but she wines more then anything.  But as for skiping the bark and go straight for the bite.  When she is released she is to hold the decoy untill they move but she just goes for the sleeve. 

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Make the barking in the vehicle work for you. Put that bark on command. then give the dog the command to bark when you want it too. Is the bark you're trying to get for building search? Other than that, why else do you want the dog barking. Is this a police service dog or for personal protection. I guess I"m still not sure why you want this dog to bark while it's on leash.


 


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Right now the dog is mainly used for SAR.  But she is in the training process for patrol work .  Yes I want the dog to bark for building searches as well as area search. The trainer I've been working with says the dog should be able to hold a subject and not bite untill he moves. the on leash part mainly comes for the handler protection.  But I will put a command with the barking in the car and go from there.

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Many SAR groups do not want dogs that are trained in apprehension. I'd check with whatever group you plan on being associated with. As for the bark and hold (b/h), I don't train it, as, in my opinion, it is a safety issue for the handler. In addition, studies have shown, there are more unintentional bites with b/h dogs than with find and bite dogs. As for handler protection, I don't particularly care that the dog barks, what I am concerned with the dog will bite when told, or when I'm attacked. For a patrol dog, those are the only two times they should bite.


 


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Ok thanks for the info.  I will stear clear of the b/h.  She will for sure bite when told and she is very protective. so then i won't stress on the b/h or the braking for the handler protection.  Thanks for the info it cleared somethings up for me.