Jcastelot,

One may tend to think that way, but it isn't always the case, major or minor injuries law suits can and will probably happen no matter.  Baton's are very effective if used properly and in the hands of someone properly trained.  They can be a defensive weapon, offensive and a restraint device, so batons are effective, but yes they do tend to cause more specific traumas.  Fact is if the perpetrator is on something a taser can be just as ineffective due to excited delirium.  These instances give agencies and taser international headaches.  Bottom line: Training!

Please don't take this as your wrong, you have a valid point and thanks for the feedback.  The freedom of this country is freedom of speech and and opinion.  Keep em coming.

BSL1123 says ...

JCastelot says ...

 I am a student in a small college and our Campus Safety uses batons and I feel that they are ineffective. I see students get hit with them and they run away hurt. Then we see lawsuits against our school because the student has a broken bone or wrist. I think that my school should have tazers because I feel they are more effective when trying to apprehend a student. Also, the student will not have major injuries.

What are you basing your opinion on?

1) You have no basis for your opinion that batons are ineffective. Of course you are allowed to have and express your opinion, but years of trial and error has gone into using Batons as an enforcement tool, and your opinion is probably similar to others that have seen the courtrooms, and been trodden down.

2) As Cassco said, anyone who is being hit with a Baton should be arrested and taken to jail. It's not a Flyswatter. It's a complaince tool.

3) Every person in LE that carries and/or uses a baton has been trained and certified. We know how to aim a blow, and where to aim a blow. However, we do not have the ability to change the direction in midswing if the subject moves. If a bone is broken it is probably due to a subject being resistant or combative, and as such is gonna be heard in court, and thrown out.

4) You say that you feel tasers (not spelled with a Z) are more effective when trying to apprehend a student. Again, your statement begs the question, what are you basing your opinion on? Did you conduct a study? Did you read someone elses study? If so, which one? I personally base my opinion of "The right tool for the job be it Baton, taser, or OC Spray" on experience. The best teacher.

5) How do you know there will not be major injuries from the use of a taser. When a taser is deployed on a person they lose control of their muscles, and motor skills. A LARGE majority of these subjects fall down. I've seen more than one noggin get cracked on the ground. The person was obviously being combative or resistant, and therefore he taser use was required to bring them into compliance. Also, you make this last statement as a fact, not offering up that it is your opinion. What have you based this on?

If people are running away w/ broken bones after being struck w/ a baton then apparently they are effective enough to stop the assaultive behavior.

Shock Campus LE are cops.  Least in this state and a few others. 

ShockUSMC87 says ...

Scurge says ...

If people are running away w/ broken bones after being struck w/ a baton then apparently they are effective enough to stop the assaultive behavior.

Shock Campus LE are cops.  Least in this state and a few others. 

I wasnt talking bout the campus cops.......they are cops in Texas too.

My bad, I wasn't paying attention to what you said