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Hi all-


I've got my oral board interview a week from this Thursday and my wife and I have been coming up with some scenario type questions to prepare me for the interview....


We came up with this one that I'm not sure of the proper handling of the situation. We came up with 2 versions of the same scenario...


(Version 1):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your friend's underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


(Version 2):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your brother's/sister's/cousin's/(insert family member here) underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


I know that you wouldn't just leave the party because you'd be leaving a scene where you know that a crime/violation has taken place...


Would you take the child's parent(s) aside and explain that you've been put in a tough situation being a police officer and witnessing their child's underage drinking and ask them to handle the situation (or you would be forced to arrest their child)? Or would you just arrest/ticket the child for underage drinking straight away once you saw the infraction?


I understand that I may never be invited to another party again, but my job is to enforce the laws.


 


Thanks for any input.


 


 


 

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J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.


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Check your state laws, in some states it is legal for parents to give alcoholic beverages to their own children, as ajsdaddyCCSO says, they are interested in your answer not mine, i an just  giving you someting to check and consider in your answer.

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Check your state laws, in some states it is legal for parents to give alcoholic beverages to their own children, as ajsdaddyCCSO says, they are interested in your answer not mine, i an just  giving you someting to check and consider in your answer.



Texas would be one of those states....


Regarding both of your scenarios: No Offense.

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Many years ago I was invited to a party in the city I policed. I was assured there would be no drugs used at this party. About an hour after I arrived I could smell marijuana. I contacted the host and told him I needed to depart the party due to the weed being smoked. He apologized and I left. If you posed this question to 10 different cops you would get a variety of responses. This is just an example.

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First of all, let me say that State law should be taken into account. Breaking the law in and of itself is not a good trait to teach children. Second, I believe everything in life comes within a context. Children drinking alcohol here in the US, isn't quite the same as children drinking alcohol in other countries. The bottome line is, if children see parents abusing alcohol, odds are greater they'll do the same. It's the same thing with guns. If children are brought up to respect and use them properly, there is no problem. Personally, I have no problem with older children having a small amount of wine at a dinner table. On the other hand, it needs to be strictly controlled by the parents. It's all about responsibility!!

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Many years ago I was invited to a party in the city I policed. I was assured there would be no drugs used at this party. About an hour after I arrived I could smell marijuana. I contacted the host and told him I needed to depart the party due to the weed being smoked. He apologized and I left. If you posed this question to 10 different cops you would get a variety of responses. This is just an example.



I was presented this very scenario when I was at an oral board. That was pretty much the answer I gave. From what I remember I did quite well on that oral board. Then again, I am still LE jobless...........

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What "YOU" should do is make sure you are clear of the law in your city/state regarding this. Our law says a juvenile, within reasonable age, can consume alcholic beverages with the consent and/or supervision of their guardian. So a parent can allow their 14 yr old  to drink a beer or wine as long as it is reasonable. Another aspect to look at is their heritage/religious preferences. Some religions and cultures permit drinking. Look at the situation as a whole. Is the underage child doing a keg stand? Probably not reasonable. Is the kid drinking a glass of wine with the parents.. probably reasonable.


 


Good luck. Remember this in an interview and in your career. When you come to a conclusion about a situation stick to your guns unless you are 100% wrong. Basically believe in yourself and your knowledge/ability to do your job. Changing your mind is ok and will happen daily but make sure your learn from the mistake you made that brought about the change.

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You are not expected to know the laws yet. Your interview questions are slanted to project an insight into your moral character, honesty and integrity as well as give an indicator into future behavior. 

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You are not expected to know the laws yet. Your interview questions are slanted to project an insight into your moral character, honesty and integrity as well as give an indicator into future behavior. 



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I would take the kids drink as my own.  After that I would do a Judo chop to the minor rendering him/her unconscious.  I would then use my wizard skills to make everyone forget what happened.  After the scene was secure I would call my brother "the mall ninja" to assist me with the scene.             

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You are not expected to know the laws yet. Your interview questions are slanted to project an insight into your moral character, honesty and integrity as well as give an indicator into future behavior. 



This was something like what I was going to say.  


I would say that the kids drinking is ok as long as it's in moderation and the parents know about them drinking.  Now if the kids are outside at the side of the house downing a whole 5th of Jack, then I think there is a problem.  


Also, be true to yourself in answering their questions.  IMHO don't answer the oral boards questions in the way YOU think what they WANT to hear.  


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J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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ajsdaddyCCSO says ...



J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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ajsdaddyCCSO says ...



J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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elaken says ...



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ajsdaddyCCSO says ...



J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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Hi all-


I've got my oral board interview a week from this Thursday and my wife and I have been coming up with some scenario type questions to prepare me for the interview....


We came up with this one that I'm not sure of the proper handling of the situation. We came up with 2 versions of the same scenario...


(Version 1):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your friend's underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


(Version 2):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your brother's/sister's/cousin's/(insert family member here) underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


I know that you wouldn't just leave the party because you'd be leaving a scene where you know that a crime/violation has taken place...


Would you take the child's parent(s) aside and explain that you've been put in a tough situation being a police officer and witnessing their child's underage drinking and ask them to handle the situation (or you would be forced to arrest their child)? Or would you just arrest/ticket the child for underage drinking straight away once you saw the infraction?


I understand that I may never be invited to another party again, but my job is to enforce the laws.


 


Thanks for any input.


 


 


 



WOW... I am puzzled at some the answers... As well as the questions themselves...


1. What's the Jurisdiction...?


2. What are the State Laws...?


3. Are you On Duty or Off Duty...?


Version 1... YOU are On Duty... That means you shouldn't be at the Party to begin with... Ha...!


Version 2... YOU are Off Duty... That means you are under duty to enforce the laws or not to enforce the laws (depends on jurisdiction)


Version 3... YOUR State Laws allows the Parent or Legal Guardian to determine alcohol comsuption...


Version 4... YOUR State Laws Don't allow Parents or Legal Guardian to make such determination...


Version 5... YOU are on Duty, but State Laws allow...


Version 6... YOU are Off Duty but State Laws don't allow...


Hey... You see where I am going here..? There is just not enough info in your "Scenario Question"...


Sorry.

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jLopie says ...



Hi all-


I've got my oral board interview a week from this Thursday and my wife and I have been coming up with some scenario type questions to prepare me for the interview....


We came up with this one that I'm not sure of the proper handling of the situation. We came up with 2 versions of the same scenario...


(Version 1):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your friend's underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


(Version 2):  You're at a party with friends and family and you witness your brother's/sister's/cousin's/(insert family member here) underage child drinking alcohol.  How do you handle the situation?


I know that you wouldn't just leave the party because you'd be leaving a scene where you know that a crime/violation has taken place...


Would you take the child's parent(s) aside and explain that you've been put in a tough situation being a police officer and witnessing their child's underage drinking and ask them to handle the situation (or you would be forced to arrest their child)? Or would you just arrest/ticket the child for underage drinking straight away once you saw the infraction?


I understand that I may never be invited to another party again, but my job is to enforce the laws.


 


Thanks for any input.


 


 


 



WOW... I am puzzled at some the answers... As well as the questions themselves...


1. What's the Jurisdiction...?


2. What are the State Laws...?


3. Are you On Duty or Off Duty...?


Version 1... YOU are On Duty... That means you shouldn't be at the Party to begin with... Ha...!


Version 2... YOU are Off Duty... That means you are under duty to enforce the laws or not to enforce the laws (depends on jurisdiction)


Version 3... YOUR State Laws allows the Parent or Legal Guardian to determine alcohol comsuption...


Version 4... YOUR State Laws Don't allow Parents or Legal Guardian to make such determination...


Version 5... YOU are on Duty, but State Laws allow...


Version 6... YOU are Off Duty but State Laws don't allow...


Hey... You see where I am going here..? There is just not enough info in your "Scenario Question"...


Sorry.



You are correct fplasencia, but the way he posed his question is very similar to how it will be posed at an oral board.

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J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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ajsdaddyCCSO says ...



J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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^^^^^^All of the above



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elaken says ...



ernswat says ...



ShockUSMC87 says ...



Casscocop says ...



Scurge says ...



elaken says ...



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ajsdaddyCCSO says ...



J..........I say this with all due respect. It isn't what WE would do. It is what YOU would do. I know what I would do. How would YOU handle the situation? Police work is a lot about discretion. How an individual officer handles any given situation says a whole bunch about their character. I know that there are LEO's looking at this scenario right now saying "well I would do this" or "I would do that" but the oral board isn't looking for what WE would do. Tell them what you would do, go with what your SOP's and protocol would demand.



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I see elaken is posting in this thread a lot, maybe he has some first hand experience with the topic (underage drinking, not interviews).

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I see elaken is posting in this thread a lot, maybe he has some first hand experience with the topic (underage drinking, not interviews).



. In the words of the great Chiefdennis, you are off my Christmas list. I never touched the stuff. Do me a favor and don't look at the "worst beer" thread, you may blow my cover.

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Casscocop says ...



I see elaken is posting in this thread a lot, maybe he has some first hand experience with the topic (underage drinking, not interviews).



. In the words of the great Chiefdennis, you are off my Christmas list. I never touched the stuff. Do me a favor and don't look at the "worst beer" thread, you may blow my cover.



When you say "never touched the stuff" do you mean the drinks, or the Underage?

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elaken says ...



Casscocop says ...



I see elaken is posting in this thread a lot, maybe he has some first hand experience with the topic (underage drinking, not interviews).



. In the words of the great Chiefdennis, you are off my Christmas list. I never touched the stuff. Do me a favor and don't look at the "worst beer" thread, you may blow my cover.



When you say "never touched the stuff" do you mean the drinks, or the Underage?



I just let out one of those laughs where it's like "ohhhhhawhawhawhaw, that was bad" Like when you see a guy get hit wicked hard in the nads and you laugh, but you feel the pain at the same time. Know what I mean?


. In the words of BSL, you're a turd. Heehee. BSL is now off the list too.


 

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