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Posted about 7 years ago

 

I imagine most here are aware of the Border Patrol agents who were imprisoned for doing their job-- hung out to dry by politicians, as near as I can figure.

If anyone wants to sign a petition calling for the release of these guys, the address is: http://patriotpetitions.us/borders/

Here's what you would be signing:

Free the Texas Three and Secure our Borders
To President George Bush, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Republican Leader John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell:

We, the people of these United States, rightfully petition our President, on behalf of former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, and their colleague, former Sheriff’s Deputy Guillermo Hernandez, to commute their sentences.

Further, we ask that Congress insist that the DEA prosecute Mexican national Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila on felony drug distribution charges.

Finally, we demand that Congress and the Bush administration secure our borders.

Signed,

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Thanks for posting this. The fact that these men are in prison is a travesty. Is it any wonder that the Border Patrol cannot recruit enough quality agents???

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I have signed the petition. Thank You ChaplainKeppy for posting this, brining it to everyones attention. I hope everyone here signs. This is just plain ridiculous.

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Also check out Grassfire.org

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If you Google their names, you will find all sorts of information, both articles and websites and support measures.

It is outrageous, and I think the government is really culpable on this one. The prosecuting attorney's office has really been messing around on this one, it stinks to high heaven. I don't understand how the judgments can stand.

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DHS Lied To Congress In Ramos/Compean Case
By Digger

DHS Inspector General Richard L. Skinner admitted under questioning by Congressman John Culberson that the Department of Homeland Security lied to Congress on September 26, 2006 when it made claims that Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean confessed guilt and declared they "wanted to shoot some Mexicans" before an incident where Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, a Mexican drug smuggler, was shot in the buttocks while fleeing across the border.

Included in the claims by the DHS Inspector General's office during the September meeting were documents that concluded the agents:

confessed to knowingly shooting at an unarmed suspect;
stated during the interrogation they did not believe the suspect was a threat to them at the time of the shooting;
stated that day they "wanted to shoot a Mexican";
were belligerent to investigators;
destroyed evidence and lied to investigators
This has now all proven to be false as there is no documentation of any of the above claims and IG Skinner told the members of congress they were "misled" that there were such documents. Source: WND

Claims have been made that the Border Patrol agents were at fault because they did not file a written report on the incident, but as the San Bernardino Sun reports that is a fallacy, since the firearms policy for Border Patrol agents clearly states that only the supervisors of Border Patrol agents will be allowed to file a written report on firearms incidents.

Further, Border Patrol firearms policy prohibits agents involved in a shooting from filing a written report on the incident, as reported earlier this week.
The policy requires that supervisors or investigators file the report within three hours of the incident.

"Ensure that supervisory personnel ... are aware that employees involved in a shooting incident shall not be required or allowed to submit a written statement of the circumstances surrounding the incident," according to the firearms policy.

Both agents verbally reported the incident to their supervisors, yet they have been accused by prosecutor Johnny Sutton of attempting to cover up the incident.

Congressman John Culberson is now calling for the resignation of the DHS officials involved in lying to congress.

In his statement today, Culberson accused the DHS of leaving U.S. borders "largely undefended" and deploying National Guard troops "whose 'standard operating procedure' is 'to retreat' when confronted with armed criminals."

The "unjust" prosecution of Ramos and Compean, he said, "weakens border security by discouraging all U.S. law enforcement officers from drawing their weapons in self-defense or in the defense of our nation."

The travesty of justice for these two continues...

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

This is what makes me so mad. Just recently there was a post regarding the Border Patrol Agent that was given only two years for transporting illigals over the border. TWO YEARS!! for breaking the law. Now these three are left to rot in a prison for doing their job. What is wrong with this picture.

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what is wrong with this picture.? what are we really prepard to do and why are we not doing it..i see these types of stories in the news all the time just like you, but what do we do about them.we read the story and bitch about how unfair it is without really getting involved.

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True ODIN. I have been involved in e-mailing my Congressmen and Senators as well as phoning them AND the White House expressing my outrage because of this. I know that the pressure is on but for the life of me I have no idea why he has not bowed to public pressure in this matter.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Odin, you are right there is a lot of bitchen instead of trying to change it. I have emailed and expressed my concern with this matter. Just curious have you?

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it maybe because he is a lame duck....if he was in the running for the prez our gas priceses would be lowered, what you think.

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how many youngsters know what a lame duck prez is?

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nope i dont think sending e-mails will do anything..you dont vote by e-mail..there is another way.....do you vote on your gov?, or prez?yes i do .

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I do vote, but whatever can help I try if that means emails and other ways I try that as well. I think just leaving it to voteing is only one small way of getting your point across.

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voting is not a small thing.. it seems to be becomming a lost art, have you been to the polls lately? going in person and giving your voice by standing in person is a big deal...sending e-mails is not even close..calling in person is closer to making a difference than just sending something over the net. getting people together and calling your congressman will also help.just curious what do you do during election time in your state? do you help out the one you are going to vote for .. like sheriff, mayor, alderman,city clerk, judge.governer, congressman, or just send in your thoughts by e-mail..computers dont vote, and if it does'nt bother you enough to get out and vote then it does not make one difference.

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It seems like you are just read what you chose to. First sentence was, "I do vote" and I also said that I do other things other than email. I just didn't think I would have to put everything I do. I still don't see anything your have done besides vote. Odin I do read a lot of your posts and you do enjoy giving out your opinions and that's great, but it may not always be the right one and that everyone has to agree.

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just trying to provoke a deeper response.but we will stay closer to the shallow end of the brain pool.

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Possibly the reason they have not been pardoned is because if he does the idiotic Hispanic community will start screaming racism, (yeah I know, the Agents are also Hispanic but that doesn't really matter), and then the opposing party will start demanding a Congressional Inquiry. Being a Lame Duck he should not care but he also hopes his party will not lose many seats in 2008 elections. How stupid. Do what is right and let these guys out of prison, NOW!

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Amen, Robocop!!!!

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Voting, of course, is of the first importance.

Making your position known to the leaders who represent you is important, but they don't, in fact, weigh all contacts alike, or so I am told by community organizer.

A personal letter, in your own words, carries the most weight.

A phone call, in your own words, carries the next most weight.

An e-mail, in your own words, carries the next.

A form letter or scripted call or "canned" e-mail is next.

So, if you have the time and energy, by all means, write that letter... AND make that phone call... AND send that e-mail. These are all good things to do, democracy in action. A representative who ignored 600,000 e-mails on the same subject would be an idiot, even if they are "only" e-mails.

A last point: if I was a family member of one of those agents, I would appreciate any action folks tried to take on behalf of my loved one. Folks that are local to these people are doing benefits and stuff, to help the families get by, and I know that is appreciated as well.

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No Pardon Promise for Ex-Border Patrol Agents
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
July 19, 2007

(1st Add: Adds background.)

(CNSNews.com) - President George W. Bush Thursday praised the federal prosecutor who was grilled two days earlier by a Senate panel for his role in the conviction of two U.S. Border Patrol agents for the shooting a drug dealer.

Taking questions from members of the Nashville, Tenn., Chamber of Commerce after a speech, Bush declined to promise to pardon the two agents, as a growing number of lawmakers are urging.

"I'm not going to make that kind of promise in a forum like this," Bush said. "Obviously I am interested in facts. I know the prosecutor very well, Johnny Sutton. He's a dear friend of mine from Texas. He's a fair guy. He is an even-handed guy."

Sutton has a long association with the president. Between 1995 and 2000, he served as then Texas Gov. George W. Bush's criminal justice policy director.

Before he was appointed to the post of U.S. attorney, Sutton served as a policy coordinator in the Bush-Cheney transition team when the president was first elected.

Bush spoke for the first time in months regarding the controversial case of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, sentenced to 11 and 12 years respectively in federal prison for shooting a fleeing drug smuggler in the buttocks in February 2005 and then trying to cover up the shooting. Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, a Mexican national, was attempting to smuggle 743 pounds of marijuana into the country.

On Wednesday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) sent Bush a letter asking him to commute the sentence. A bill in the House, with more than 100 co-sponsors, is calling for a congressional pardon.

Bush gave no sign Thursday that he was feeling the heat over the episode.

"I know this is an emotional issue, but people need to look at the facts," he said. "These men were convicted by a jury of their peers after listening to the facts as my friend, Johnny Sutton, presented them. But anyway, no, I won't make you that promise."

Sutton, who has borne the brunt of public anger over the Ramos-Compean case, offered Aldrete-Davila immunity from prosecution for trying to smuggle the drugs into the U.S., in return for the Mexican's testimony against the two border agents.

In an interview with Cybercast News Service early this year, Sutton attributed public sentiment to distorted media coverage of the affair.

He faced fire from members of the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday during a hearing examining the case.

Senators criticized him specifically for bringing a firearms charge that has a mandatory 10-year-minimum sentence, while also asking why Aldrete-Davila had been given immunity. Sutton was also asked why the jury in the agents' trial was not told about an alleged subsequent drug-smuggling offense by Aldrete-Davila.

Sutton has held firm that the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law. He stressed that Aldrete-Davila was unarmed and that the two agents had attempted to cover up the shooting.

In their letter to the president, Feinstein and Cornyn - both Judiciary Committee members - said the hearing had "confirmed the concerns raised by many members of the public: that this penalty levied on these agents is excessive and that they deserve the immediate exercise of your executive clemency powers."

"Ramos and Compean have now been in prison for more than six months," the letter continued. "Agent Ramos has been physically assaulted while serving his term and the agents' request to remain out of prison while their appeal was pending was denied by the Fifth Circuit. Both agents will remain incarcerated for many more months, even if their conviction is ultimately thrown out - unless action is taken quickly."

The woman who asked the president about the agents at the Nashville gathering said, "The Tennessee General Assembly passed a resolution, with 91 votes in the House and 30 in the Senate, asking our Tennessee delegation … to go to you asking for a pardon for these two men that were tried, where information was … kept back from their trial.

"And there's also a resolution in the House, H.R. 40, with a number of our Tennessee delegation signed on to that," the woman added. "Will you pardon these men that are unjustly imprisoned?"

Bush replied, "You've got a nice smile, but you can't entice me into making a public statement."

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"He’s a fair guy. He is an even-handed guy.”

Well, now - it doesn't seem so in this case, does it, Mr. President?

I am, for the most part, a supporter of President Bush, but I think we can add this to the list (however long you believe that list might be) of things he is WRONG on.

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I'll say!

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Sutton is a waste of good oxygen, and his close, buddy-buddy relationship with America's first retarded President doesn't speak well in his defense. I've written to my Senator..but (Feingold) he's so anti-Bush that no one in either party really listens to him anymore. My Congressmen are a better hope, but if Bush is willing to throw a finger at the American people in general as a country, then I don't see him taking action just because our elected representatives demand it too..

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I heard they even gave the drug dealer a ranch and full immunity to testify that our agents were vile creatures..and the Court accepted the word of a criminal who was caught AGAIN during the trial trying to smuggle dope into the States...they took his word over that of 3 deputized agents of the law...
"Anyone wanna join the Border Patrol? no? nobody wants to join the proud, er oops!, not proud, um, well, anyone wanting to put their life on the line confronting border-jumpers and drug-smugglers in the southwestern American desert, please contact a BP recruiter. You will get paid less than 50% of Americans and if you do a good job the government will likely send you to prison, so if you get a recruiter for British Petroleum instead of Border Patrol, it's probably in your best interest to go with it... "

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I signed the petition, thanks for posting it. I also send letters, both personal and through organizations such as this one and the NRA. Odin is right, voting is a powerful tool, if the electorals don't get into the picture, and the special interest groups, and the illegals threatening your life, but I vote on anything that needs to be voted on. However, you vote in a president and for four years he screws up and you have to wait to vote again. Once every two or four years you can flex your muscle at the poll's. What do you do in between. Action needs to be taken by whatever means you have available to you at the time. Voting, getting involved in local and national issues, letters, phone calls, emails, press releases, rally's, word of mouth, these are all tools to be used by all. You can't rebuild your Harley with only a screwdriver. You need a full toolbox. I say use them all, I do, or try to. The biggest problem I see, every time Bush defends someone you hear, "He's a good guy, He's my FRIEND". You surround yourself with friends at a bar, you don't give policy and procedure control to someone because he's your friend or a Texan. You look for people who are qualified, not friends. Bush needs to clean up his act and quit with the "FRIENDS" thing. I think. Is he trying to run a country, or fill his dance card. Stay Safe


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very well said.

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Thank You


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It's time that President Bush acted on this issue. If he can pardon people that have actually broken the law then now it's time for him to get his ink pen ready. Also Mr. President, may I have the pen after you sign the pardons?

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