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Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Okay, I hope this has not been asked before but I am going to ask it any ways. first the back story.


Mr. X is at a Regional Jail in Missouri.(ran by the sheriffs department in two counties.)  Mr. X post Bond and is ready to leave. Now county A who has the charges tells the jail not to let him go in till the check for warrants.(Missouri has Jake's Law has to be done) problem is NCIC is down and not working (Missouri law say that county A is not in violate of jakes law if MULES or NCIC is not working) But County A refuse to let Mr. X go. Jail calls the Sheriff office of County B (the other county in charge of the Jail.) County B say release prisoner NOW state law says we have X amount of time to release after bail is posted. the Sheriff of County B is called and agrees with the call. County A Sheriff is up set. and says no law is in effact.  Mr. X sits in Jail this whole time waiting 12 plus hours after bail but is finally released after 12 hours and County B raises heck.


 


I am a road officer and no next to nothing about the jails. this did not happen in the county i work in. it happened further North. I am wondering if anyone knows the Missouri law on this. and any Federal laws about his...wanting RSMO numbers and Federal statue numbers.  I agree with county B on this just for the record.


 


 


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

I don't know specifically how it works where you are but here in KY the way things work are as follows....


If Offender X comes to jail for something like DUI we hold them for a mandatory 8 hours and then if they can post bond they are released..Now lets say that Offender X has warrants out for his arrest, BY LAW, we cannot hold Offender X on that warrant if he has posted bond for his DUI. The only way that we can hold him/her is if our pre-trial officer gets there in time to serve the warrant on Offender X. I'm not familiar with statue codes for this but it's the way it works at my facility.

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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

That is close to Mo. we can hold them for 12 on a DWI even if the post bond the second they walk in the door. (now the 12 hours starts the min of the arrest.) we can also hold up to 24 hours with out a warrant. but once a warrant is issued we can hold them in till bond is posted. I just dont know how long after the post bond we can hold someone. with the exp of DWI if the post bond before the 12 hours.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

This makes no sense to me. How is it that two seperate counties have control over one jail?? Is this up around Kirksville or Moberly??


I work in the suburbs of St. Louis and we do all our own booking and processing. (Meaning when I arrest someone I do it) First thing I do before booking them is run a record check. If I can't do it by the time I am done booking them we can't hold them until the system is working. Furthermore we aren't going to wait around 5 hours for a hit confirmation on a warrant either if they don't respond in a reasonable amount of time (10 min) we let em go. It would be like detaining someone on the side of the road and holding them until D.O.R. is up and running to confirm their license is valid. Not practical. I know of no Rsmo Statutes that address this, but I would love some more input if there is some out there.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Bm,


We have urgent and routine hit confirmations. Urgent is supposed to be within ten minutes and is usually done when we are road side with the subject. Routine is supposed to be confirmed within an hour. Does it really happen that way no. We give em about 15 minutes and then we are on the phone with them if we are road side. Don't have much issues with the routine confirmations seeings how the subject is normally incarcerated and isn't going any where.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

In NJ anytime an inmate is released, R.O.B., time served, or what ever the reason, he or she is run thru NCIC and if any detainers pop up said inmate is informed of the new sticker and is not released until the issuing authority comes to get them. This usually creates the typical "I paid that warrant or I got an O.R. on that charge" song and dance. But here in the lovely state if NJ if you have active warrants you sit until the issuing auth. either lets you go or they come get you.

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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Rookie6, it is a Regional Jail, the RsMo escapes me at the moment but there is a state law allowing for both Regional and private jails, they house prisoners from all over. including out of state,(ie Iwoa and Kansas) I do not want to say the name of the Jail, I do not want to cause the people of that jail any embarrassment. I asked the question because my mother is a dispatcher in county B and use to work in county A, so she has been dealing with the jail for a long time. she is being blamed for letting Mr. X go,even know it was her sup and she was not working, however even if it had been her i know it was the write call.


yes I know a warrant has to be confirmed with in a reasonable amount of time (10 mins or so) if on road side. I am a city officer and we dispatch thru the county Sheriffs Office and I know the Highway Patrol has given all the SO MULES to use and there rule is you have to confirm a warrant in 10 min or let them go. (this is what my mother and others have told me i have NO dispatching experience.) I have waited up to 15 mins to confirm an out of state felony warrant.


I will say that the name of the jail takes to name of the two counties that run it. the two Sheriffs are the commissioners of the jail but they hire an administrator to run the jail. and all the works are not deputies. they are CO's  but the deputies to the booking at the SO most of the time and then just call them to come pick them up. then they are booked in a second time into the jail.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Jd, Rsmo statue 221.510 #6 in particular covers this topic. it's the only one I could find. I only asked if this incident was in that particular area because I have dealt with a jail up there and was less than impressed. I understand not wanting to disclose that info. Let me know if you come up with anything else.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Yea, I had found that one. it is about Jake's law.... that is when i gave up.. also found that in the State Constitution that habeas corpus can not be denied.


O and my Mother is the only one who has ever called me JD.... LMAO....


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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Once an inmate in our facility bonds out on their charges, we run them through LEADS. If there is a hit, we get the warrant comfirmed and the other department wants a hold placed, we serve the paper. It's pretty simple actually.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

coshane220 says ...



Once an inmate in our facility bonds out on their charges, we run them through LEADS. If there is a hit, we get the warrant comfirmed and the other department wants a hold placed, we serve the paper. It's pretty simple actually.



that was not the issue. if they are able to run them through MULES (I am assuming that LEADS is your version of MULES) they would and the same thing would happen. in fact its the law they have too.... this is about when MULES is down and not running and they person bonds.


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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

I would say, that if LEADS (MULES in your case) is down for an extended amount of time, cut them loose. We run each person through LEADS at the time of arrest as well as just prior to release. That being said, if they have not been in custody for very long and LEADS does go down, at least we have a fairly good idea of whether or not there may be other outstanding warrants.