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http://news10now. com/watertown- north-news- 1052-content/ top_stories/ 495377/civilian- officers- lack-privileges


FORT DRUM, N.Y. -- Police officers risk their lives on a daily basis. But some recent military shootings have some wondering why they aren't all treated the same.


It's an issue that is being looked at again after the tragic shootings at Fort Hood last year, as well as some violent incidents on Fort Drum in the past few years.


Military civilian officers like those on Hood and Drum, are not allowed certain privileges that other law enforcement officers are granted. They don't have the right to carry a weapon off-duty, or even bring it home. They have zero off-post authority should they witness crime and they no longer have 20-year retirement.


"The lines have gotten blurred over the last several decades and what we see from our point of view is the old laws haven't changed to keep pace with the challenges we face today," said Joseph Margrey, Fort Drum Director of Emergency Services.


There are bills in Congress to make these changes, but different versions have been there for years with no action taken so far.

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They have all the support they need on the Military Base where they work, what more do they need? Arrest Authority off base, why? For what? ( Thats why we have City/State Law Enforcement) to cover what we can't/don't cover. I can see maybe being able to carry- off duty, i mean they are working for the DOD/DOA, which is a Fed Job. So it should be covered under LEOSA and there should be retirement pay. IMO. 

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I was a DACP for about a year. I have since left and now work for a Municipal PD.  Police are police regardless of who they work for. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE tTO ANSWER TO A BASE COMMANDER. The problem being that there is no standardization in anything the DOD police force does. They ARE NOT MP's, the military needs to recognize this and back them.

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They have all the support they need on the Military Base where they work, what more do they need? Arrest Authority off base, why? For what? ( Thats why we have City/State Law Enforcement) to cover what we can't/don't cover. I can see maybe being able to carry- off duty, i mean they are working for the DOD/DOA, which is a Fed Job. So it should be covered under LEOSA and there should be retirement pay. IMO. 



Walk a mile in our shoes.  What you say and what was posted before is the tip of the iceberg.  The issue goes way deeper than that.  As you know as an MP the military plays on PCA which has been sadly misinterpreted through the years.  Just like with you, the CO has the power to give and take away from the LE community and everything is based on what their instructions are.  In the early 90's The Co where I work decided to take the guns away from the guys because rules prohibited bad guys from carrying or having them.  It isn't about playing the lone ranger off post, its about much more which I can detail if you're interested off line for OPSEC reasons.  Incidently, please don't take this as an us VS them attack.  I think MP/MAA s are getting hosed as well.  Check HR 675, read it all the way through, and you'll probably understand what I'm talking about.


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No problem tjlg shoot me a PM, we can talk about it offline.


 


 


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ArMy_MP says ...



They have all the support they need on the Military Base where they work, what more do they need? Arrest Authority off base, why? For what? ( Thats why we have City/State Law Enforcement) to cover what we can't/don't cover. I can see maybe being able to carry- off duty, i mean they are working for the DOD/DOA, which is a Fed Job. So it should be covered under LEOSA and there should be retirement pay. IMO. 



Walk a mile in our shoes.  What you say and what was posted before is the tip of the iceberg.  The issue goes way deeper than that.  As you know as an MP the military plays on PCA which has been sadly misinterpreted through the years.  Just like with you, the CO has the power to give and take away from the LE community and everything is based on what their instructions are.  In the early 90's The Co where I work decided to take the guns away from the guys because rules prohibited bad guys from carrying or having them.  It isn't about playing the lone ranger off post, its about much more which I can detail if you're interested off line for OPSEC reasons.  Incidently, please don't take this as an us VS them attack.  I think MP/MAA s are getting hosed as well.  Check HR 675, read it all the way through, and you'll probably understand what I'm talking about.