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Hey guys.


I've had two polygraphs at two different departments. The first department said my results were inconclusive, resulting in me not being selected to move on. I was given this result due to my breathing. The examiner accused me of cheating, and was very short with me.


The second department said there was "distortion" in the test. I was given this result due to my breathing. This examiner said my breathing was very odd, and he had a short conversation with me while hooked up to the polygraph. My breathing he said remained the same, which told him that I was not controlling my breathing. But because of how my breathing was showing up he didn't want to fail me so he said there was distortion. He suggested I see a Pulmonologist. I did.


I had a Pulmonary Function Test and the Doctor said everything was normal. He thinks my lungs might be trapping air due to anxiety, and that is what they are seeing on the screen.


This last polygrah I had, I stayed calm, breathed, and didn't think about anything. How can I over come this "anxiety"? This could end up ruining my chances to have a career I've always wanted.

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Did you post this same thing a while back?


If not well someone else has mentioned the exact same thing happened to them.


I understand the frustration.. I have never had high blood pressure... ever, at least not that I know of and certainly never when checked at the Doctor's Office -  but for some odd reason I always start to hold my breath during the blood pressure check. 


My Dad recently when to the V.A. Doctor and for the first time in his life his blood pressure reading was a little high..


Anyways, since that has happened everytime he goes in and has his BP checked it reads high.. and I think it's because he gets nervous and has anxiety when he has it checked at the Doctor's Office just because it turned out to be high one time.  


It seems to be normal when he checks it at home..


I've never taken a Polygraph before but I do know what it is like to have anxiety.. and asthma. 


The only reasons I can think of to be nervous is either you don't fully trust the technology of the polygraph tests, or perhaps you might be hiding something.  I don't know if I trust them since I've never had to take one.


 

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Just relax. Picture the interviewer in a thong if you have to. Tell the truth and don't overthink your answers.


If you have some sort of anxiety issue with someone hooking a machine up to you and asking you questions then this might not be the right line of work for you.


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I was gonna stay out of it, but Wal-Mart is hiring.

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I was gonna stay out of it, but Wal-Mart is hiring.


 


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I was gonna stay out of it, but Wal-Mart is hiring.


 


Door greeters or golden recart-treavers?????????????




Either. Just don't apply at HQ. They just had a massive layoff.


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I'm not hiding anything. I definitely don't trust it because of these readings. I don't feel any anxiety. Doctor says it must be because so much is riding on the tests, and he is right.

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I personally don't like the polygraph and believe a very thorough background investigation will suffice in most situations.  I think too many qualified candidates are not hired because of false readings.  There is a reason they are not allowed in court.

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As Yogi said, "deja vu all over again".


poly's- just another tool in the box. They catch more with questionable backgrounds than let go.  Using them for court sworn testimony is a far cry than just a limiter basis for a hiring process.


And I won't give you hints on how to "beat" it.

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Someone once told me to put a tack in your shoe, and step on it a little before each question.  Doesn't make sense, but kinda makes sense.  Never did find out if he actually tried it though. Seems like a huge bloody mess to me.

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I was extremely nervous when I took mine. I thought about it for weeks, and I was anxious but had nothing to hide and I passed. So maybe there's something your hiding and don't think its important but still are hiding it, maybe even unintentionally.

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I was extremely nervous when I took mine. I thought about it for weeks, and I was anxious but had nothing to hide and I passed. So maybe there's something your hiding and don't think its important but still are hiding it, maybe even unintentionally.



Thats how I was....I was sweatin bullets about it cause I didnt know what to expect....but I wasnt losin sleep or anything cause I knew I was gonna tell the truth and be honest....and sure enough in a crazy turn of events, I told the truth and passed.,...imagine that, lol.


Yea if ur freakin that bad then that makes me a lil suspoicous.


Yeah I was just like you, I knew there was nothing to hide but it still makes you a little nervous


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Well, like folks are saying, if you tell the truth then you should pass.  If you are so nervous taking a poly, that would send up a red flag to anyone.  I'm not sure what to make of this, especially since you saw a doc. 


I look at it this way - if you are THAT nervous simply taking a test, how will you react out on the street when things get crazy?  It may not affect you the same, but it seems like an indicator to me.   I was very nervous for my poly too, but told the truth and passed.


I hate to say it, but you might need to consider some other possible career paths.  There are even some that would still keep you in contact with law enforcement, only in a non-sworn / less stressful capacity. 


Oh, and you already posted this a few months ago, didn't you?

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Someone once told me to put a tack in your shoe, and step on it a little before each question.  Doesn't make sense, but kinda makes sense.  Never did find out if he actually tried it though. Seems like a huge bloody mess to me.



One of the poly examiners that administered my test told me that trick doesn't work. I didn't try though. Too much pain for a test that I passed twice with flying colors. The examiner told me that either I'm good at hiding my past or I have absolutely no life (it's the latter) since my results were clean with no red flags.


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Don't try to use counter measures to beat the machine. Yes, they are not admissable in court and just a prop to mess with your head in my opinion. The examiner may try to make you question your answers by stating the machine is suggesting deception. Stick to your original answers. Don't ask how you did and if asked. Tell them just fine after all I told the truth. If you try to use counter measures to beat it your more than likely going to get caught and DQ'ed and that information may be shared with other agencies.


It is normal to feel stress and anxiety before hand and they know this. However, the amount your having I find a litte strange?? Wait till you take a psych exam.


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I personally don't like the polygraph and believe a very thorough background investigation will suffice in most situations.  I think too many qualified candidates are not hired because of false readings.  There is a reason they are not allowed in court.


I agree there!


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Try to forget the bad thing you did!!!!!!!!!!!

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how much notice did you have before you took the polygraph? Did they give you a week advanced notice?


I'm just wondering cause I'm waiting for t call to do the oral interview.  They gave us 10 days to submit the Personal History Questionnaire and they got it last week.


This is my first time thru the process, so I'm a little anxious to get the calls for the next phase.  I know it could take a while between phases...

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how much notice did you have before you took the polygraph? Did they give you a week advanced notice?


I'm just wondering cause I'm waiting for t call to do the oral interview.  They gave us 10 days to submit the Personal History Questionnaire and they got it last week.


This is my first time thru the process, so I'm a little anxious to get the calls for the next phase.  I know it could take a while between phases...




Hard to say. I was sheduled for my polygraph and my CVSA for PDs upon completion of another part of the testing process. If there are a lot of applicants and could be a couple months out. If you are testing out of state, it could be less than a days notice. In general, I would think you would get more than a weeks notice, but testing department to department varies so much. You can always call.

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    I personally don't trust the science behind the polygraph test. It is kind of old school voodoo to me. I have often wondered if the content of your answer is what is important or is it the possibility that, "if you would lie on this polygraph test, would you distort police reports later on in your career"? 


For instance on a question such as " have you ever used marijuana?" Are they trying to discover that you once tried a joint in middle school or are they interested in discovering your ability to report the true facts no matter what. 


What were some of your answers to questions like this? Did you admit it or try and beat the machine? 

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On a different note, I went to the gun store and the same time I stepped out of my car a LEO stepped out of his Gary PD squad car.  He walked in first, I was behind him.  He reeked of weed, and his eyes were shot.  What's a gal to do when this happens?   He was in street clothes.

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    I personally don't trust the science behind the polygraph test. It is kind of old school voodoo to me. I have often wondered if the content of your answer is what is important or is it the possibility that, "if you would lie on this polygraph test, would you distort police reports later on in your career"? 


For instance on a question such as " have you ever used marijuana?" Are they trying to discover that you once tried a joint in middle school or are they interested in discovering your ability to report the true facts no matter what. 


What were some of your answers to questions like this? Did you admit it or try and beat the machine? 



Its real easy......You tell the truth, we dont need liars in this profession.....its not that damn hard.


 


 


Yeah that is the typical response to the obvious question, But my question wasn't about the policies of prior drug use, i was curious about the abstract nature of the polygraph test. I just wonder why? in this day of technology and our ability to track through peoples past would we even rely on the polygragh engineers suppositions. Is it just an extension of the psycological examination, testing your ability to perform truthfully under interrogation?


It's just and interesting subject to me and i am sorry that i Invoked profanity with my first post from what appears to be a senior member. I hope this isn't a normal occurrence of this website


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Been reading this here forum and its a tad bit suspect. Subconciously or intentionally something is being hid.


 


 


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    I personally don't trust the science behind the polygraph test. It is kind of old school voodoo to me. I have often wondered if the content of your answer is what is important or is it the possibility that, "if you would lie on this polygraph test, would you distort police reports later on in your career"? 


For instance on a question such as " have you ever used marijuana?" Are they trying to discover that you once tried a joint in middle school or are they interested in discovering your ability to report the true facts no matter what. 


What were some of your answers to questions like this? Did you admit it or try and beat the machine? 



Its real easy......You tell the truth, we dont need liars in this profession.....its not that damn hard.


 


 


Yeah that is the typical response to the obvious question, But my question wasn't about the policies of prior drug use, i was curious about the abstract nature of the polygraph test. I just wonder why? in this day of technology and our ability to track through peoples past would we even rely on the polygragh engineers suppositions. Is it just an extension of the psycological examination, testing your ability to perform truthfully under interrogation?


It's just and interesting subject to me and i am sorry that i Invoked profanity with my first post from what appears to be a senior member. I hope this isn't a normal occurrence of this website




We want people who tell the truth. The only thing u have as a police officer is ur intergrity and police officers are held to the standard that they will always tell the truth, so when u lie during the hiring phase u are indicating off the bat u dont pocess the ability to tell the truth any and always regardless of the outcome.


 


I couldn't agree more. I think that is how a lot of people develop these anxieties. Because they focus on the outcome of a seemingly minute indiscretion causing them to miss the importance of the polygraph exam. That you would above all tell the truth, and the fact that you stole a pack of baseball cards really didn't matter, what matters is that you could admit to it.


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Everybody saying that this is a repeat of a previous post... it isn't.  I was the one who had the inconclusive with the Vermont State Police a couple months back and still haven't gotten any resolution out of it.  Oh well I moved on.  I actually have a polygraph scheduled this weekend with the Colorado State Patrol this coming Saturday and I have come to the conclusion that it must have been a matter of nerves. 


I never lied or tried to hide anything but I know that I was a little on edge just by being hooked up to the machine and moreso I was excited because I was told that if I passed the test I would be given an offer.  Oh well, didn't work out for me but God has a plan for me somewhere.  Hopefully after taking my poly out in Golden CO this weekend I will know where it is.


No real advice for you but I can say I know exactly how your feeling and if your truely being honest with them and this is what you want to do with your life then don't give up.  Be persistant and continue to pursue the career of your dreams, thats what I am doing, wherever it takes me.  I have a poly out in Colorado this weekend and a written, physical, and oral board out in Portland OR next weekend.   Don't set your sights on one agency, you'll find the place that fits.


 

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Everybody saying that this is a repeat of a previous post... it isn't.  I was the one who had the inconclusive with the Vermont State Police a couple months back and still haven't gotten any resolution out of it.  Oh well I moved on.  I actually have a polygraph scheduled this weekend with the Colorado State Patrol this coming Saturday and I have come to the conclusion that it must have been a matter of nerves. 


I never lied or tried to hide anything but I know that I was a little on edge just by being hooked up to the machine and moreso I was excited because I was told that if I passed the test I would be given an offer.  Oh well, didn't work out for me but God has a plan for me somewhere.  Hopefully after taking my poly out in Golden CO this weekend I will know where it is.


No real advice for you but I can say I know exactly how your feeling and if your truely being honest with them and this is what you want to do with your life then don't give up.  Be persistant and continue to pursue the career of your dreams, thats what I am doing, wherever it takes me.  I have a poly out in Colorado this weekend and a written, physical, and oral board out in Portland OR next weekend.   Don't set your sights on one agency, you'll find the place that fits.


 



Im from VT and moved out to CO. I just took the CSP written test on Monday.


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I have a poly coming up in a few weeks myself.  I have no idea what to expect and therefore I am sweating bullets...   I tend to get a little test anxiety so hopefully that wont mess with my results at all.   Anyway, Good luck I hope you are able to get through the test.


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Hey Mike, Ive been reading the replys to your post, there has been some judgemental, subjective critism of your anxiety disodor. The perception of this disodor as being, "suspicious" or that your hiding something is simply ignorant. There are people with test anxiety, or performance anxiety that have nothing to hide but are fearful of failure or uncomfortable with a poly-graph, I mean how often does someone strap a bunch of hires all over you and watch your every move thinking your lying about something? Under these circumstances I would say anyone would be nervous. I am attending a community college to attain my aa in criminal justice law enforcement, I will also pursue my bs in criminal justice. I am a first responder for a local volunteer fire department and attended a rookie school in basic firefighting, I  also plan to attend an EMT-IV program at a state university in the fall.  I sometimes have anxiety and let me tell you, at some point in the career of emergency services it's inevitable. After four years of school related to law enforcement practice and procedure and a history of experience on the medical side of things, dont think im going to let some guy in a suit and a machine with a bunch of wires tell me I can't have a career in law enforement. If you do not pass the test don't stop looking, trying, and applying. A career in law enforcemnt doesnt mean your non-human, numb to emotion, or perfect, they all have problems like the rest of us. Don't hold them superior to your goals.