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Ok this sounds completely absurd to me but I'm going to ask it anyway because I am curious. I was recently told that in New York that it was ok for NYPD Officers to have a drink or two on duty, with some stipulations. Is this true? If it is and it would possibly make the department look bad please PM me. I know it sounds like a dumb question but I heard this from a deputy friend here. So that's why I ask.

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This is TOTALLY unacceptable (in Ohio, and hopefully anywhere else). If you read the news, I'm sure you've seen the articles concerning officers getting busted off duty.  If a fellow officer has knowledge of this taking place, it is their duty to report it, otherwise they may also be held liable. Would anyone in their right mind want back-up from an intoxicated officer?


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

In NY the only time it's authorized to have "a drink or two" is for officers working undercover and even then there are strict guidelines that must be adhered to.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

This must be common departmental policy - no?


 


mlar297 says ...



In NY the only time it's authorized to have "a drink or two" is for officers working undercover and even then there are strict guidelines that must be adhered to.


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Are you kidding?  Don't know where you heard that, but use your common sense on that one.  That answer sounded like it came from someone who is educated in TV police shows.


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Ok,got it.  Not common departmental policy.  So er- what does the on-duty UC drink while chatting up a narcotraficante in the local saloon?  Saigon Tea? Inquiring minds want to know!  LOL!


 


PETE114 says ...



Are you kidding?  Don't know where you heard that, but use your common sense on that one.  That answer sounded like it came from someone who is educated in TV police shows.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

As late as the late seventies, early eighties, it was acceptable for cops to have up to 2 beers during lunch. They couldn't sit on a bar stool and down them so they found hidding places or even brought it back to the precinct lunch room. Some had less, some had more. Today this is obviously a big no no. Does it still happen in some departments? Does a bear do his business in the woods?


Back then it was the norm and not many people question their action. Today, rightfully so, it blackens the eye of all LEO's and should not be tolleranted.

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MarlyB says ...



Ok,got it.  Not common departmental policy.  So er- what does the on-duty UC drink while chatting up a narcotraficante in the local saloon?  Saigon Tea? Inquiring minds want to know!  LOL!


 


PETE114 says ...



Are you kidding?  Don't know where you heard that, but use your common sense on that one.  That answer sounded like it came from someone who is educated in TV police shows.




I was talking about the original question Marly.  UC work is completely different with different rules. 


I did hear stories like dslow was talking about.  Police work back in the day was a little different than today.  


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Thanks, Pete114 for the lowdown- For a minute there I thought y'all UCs hadda swish 'n spit!


 


 


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MarlyB says ...



Ok,got it.  Not common departmental policy.  So er- what does the on-duty UC drink while chatting up a narcotraficante in the local saloon?  Saigon Tea? Inquiring minds want to know!  LOL!


 


PETE114 says ...



Are you kidding?  Don't know where you heard that, but use your common sense on that one.  That answer sounded like it came from someone who is educated in TV police shows.




I was talking about the original question Marly.  UC work is completely different with different rules. 


I did hear stories like dslow was talking about.  Police work back in the day was a little different than today.  


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

I am from Ut and it is a big No No here. However I just got back from training out of state with Lt.s  and Capts from some of the largest departments in the US. Is some places it is allowed to for them to come to work after haveing one or two. I asked about a policy from time of last drink to when they can come to work. They did not have one.  Ours is 8 hours after last drink.

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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

I drink Mt Dew and Mt AMP.  It is still acceptable around here, lol*.  Some around here get all crazy and put down Red Bulls when on duty


* Highly sugar caffeinated beverages are still acceptable. Beers are a no no


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Even if that were ok, why would you want to chance it?  Driving

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 Drinking ON DUTY???????ARE YOU SERIOUS???????

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I didn't believe this to be true but thought I would ask. I thought that maybe back in the day it was something practiced but I most certainly didn't expect this to be ok or tolerated now. It wasn't a question to show ignorance or anything but rather just a question of if an old practice was still accepted or not. Thanks for the replies

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I think Chicago still has it in there contracts that they can have 2 drinks a shift.  I think it's from years ago obviously and I doubt any cops drink on duty there.


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I would hope that no department would ever allow this, except for UC work.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Allready covered, but over the years of working UC it was commonplace to drink (of course the defense always attempted to make an issue of it) had a few buddys we had to send out to dry out 


Always see in the movies the cops from LA and NY drinking on duty...  you mean that's not real LMAO....

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mlar297 says ...



In NY the only time it's authorized to have "a drink or two" is for officers working undercover and even then there are strict guidelines that must be adhered to.



Same for our dept in Florida.

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gammyland says ...



I think Chicago still has it in there contracts that they can have 2 drinks a shift.  I think it's from years ago obviously and I doubt any cops drink on duty there.



Thats a big negative.  If you would like to check it out: http://www.chicagofop.org/Contract/Contract_03-07.pdf


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Scurge says ...



I drink Mt Dew and Mt AMP.  It is still acceptable around here, lol*.  Some around here get all crazy and put down Red Bulls when on duty


* Highly sugar caffeinated beverages are still acceptable. Beers are a no no


What about those drinks that are like red bull mixed with beer/malt beverage? 

just kidding.. ew those taste nasty.


I love the AMP drinks!! Cheers! Those are my favorite. The red AMP and the green AMP.   Red Bull gives me a horrible side ache- like the kind you get when you start running to soon after drinking something -yet I wasn't running.


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I didn't believe this to be true but thought I would ask. I thought that maybe back in the day it was something practiced but I most certainly didn't expect this to be ok or tolerated now. It wasn't a question to show ignorance or anything but rather just a question of if an old practice was still accepted or not. Thanks for the replies


 


I can just see it now.. (if that were even allowed)  if you did and you pulled a suspect over and had to do a breath check to make sure that driver had not been drinking ..

And you say  " Sir have you been drinking? Because I can smell beer on your breath"


and the driver who has not been drinking says to you "maybe it's your upper lip"  meaning your own beer breath.

Yeah that wouldn't go over to well.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Back in the mid 1990s I visited with two officers that had applied at my agency in Texas.  One was from New York and the other from Detroit and both were veteran officers.  The New Yorker wanted to know how many beers he could have on break and the Detroiter wanted to know where we carried the beer in our squads.  I thought both were joking though I visited with both seperately.  Both withdrew their applications.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Can you imagine what would happen if you TC'd or where involved in an OIS after a beer or two?


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See!!!!! Not all rumors are true!!


 


PETE114 says ...



gammyland says ...



I think Chicago still has it in there contracts that they can have 2 drinks a shift.  I think it's from years ago obviously and I doubt any cops drink on duty there.



Thats a big negative.  If you would like to check it out: http://www.chicagofop.org/Contract/Contract_03-07.pdf



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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

you cant drink while on duty?  come on, is this really an option??  MAYBE some vice units, but out on patrol......no way!


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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

There was a famous group of NYPD cops in the 70's or 80's I think, called the "Buddy Boys". They were basically all corrupt, bad cops who stole, abused their power and DRANK on patrol. That's the only time I have ever heard of drinking in NYPD, and it was not sanctioned.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Rule of thumb is nothing in your system a full 8 hrs prior to shift.  Never drink while armed. I always carry concealed when off duty so I really dont drink.

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In Montana it is written under Title 44 that drinking while in uniform or in police vehicles is grounds for termination.

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dslow says ...



As late as the late seventies, early eighties, it was acceptable for cops to have up to 2 beers during lunch. They couldn't sit on a bar stool and down them so they found hidding places or even brought it back to the precinct lunch room. Some had less, some had more. Today this is obviously a big no no. Does it still happen in some departments? Does a bear do his business in the woods?


Back then it was the norm and not many people question their action. Today, rightfully so, it blackens the eye of all LEO's and should not be tolleranted.



I have to admit that this was also my understanding. "We" were definately not allowed to drink while on duty etc. but were told by Officers from NYPD and a few other agencies in the NE that they could have as much as 2 beers while on duty. Again, this was in the 70's

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