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Just had a question about carrying a firearm off duty. I live in Missouri and wanted to know as a Detention Officer, would I be able to carry a weapon off duty? Tried to find out info, but couldnt find anything.


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no, unless you get a MO CCW.

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no, unless you get a MO CCW.



Absolutely correct!  If you are a corrections/detention officer, you've already passed a background check, so getting your permit in MO should be easy.  I know that cash is tight right now, but do it right and stay legal!  Best of luck to you.


What part of the state are you in?  There are lots of CCW classes out there, even in rural areas.


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I'm inclined to agree with everyone else but your first stop should have been your supervisors office. Never trust the info you receive online because theres a lot of idiots out there giving people stupid info. We have a 6 clown who instead of listening to real staff OTJ get's info off a particular forum and makes a fool of himself day after day- don't be that guy. 


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I know in Kansas you cannot with out a CCW permit. I am a state correctional officer and a part-Time police officer and I can only carry one under my commisson as a police officer.

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I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.

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Must have police officer status. I am a fellow Missourian. Get your CCW permit as others have commented

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"Peace Officer." 


 


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Must have police officer status. I am a fellow Missourian. Get your CCW permit as others have commented



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here is part of the Missouri law... for the entire thing go to http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000030.HTM you can read it your self and make up your mind if you think you should carry...( my advise is the same go get a CCW)


RSMo 571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:


(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use; or


(2) Sets a spring gun; or


(3) Discharges or shoots a firearm into a dwelling house, a railroad train, boat, aircraft, or motor vehicle as defined in section 302.010, RSMo, or any building or structure used for the assembling of people; or


(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner; or


(5) Possesses or discharges a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated; or


(6) Discharges a firearm within one hundred yards of any occupied schoolhouse, courthouse, or church building; or


(7) Discharges or shoots a firearm at a mark, at any object, or at random, on, along or across a public highway or discharges or shoots a firearm into any outbuilding; or


(8) Carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any church or place where people have assembled for worship, or into any election precinct on any election day, or into any building owned or occupied by any agency of the federal government, state government, or political subdivision thereof; or


(9) Discharges or shoots a firearm at or from a motor vehicle, as defined in section 301.010, RSMo, discharges or shoots a firearm at any person, or at any other motor vehicle, or at any building or habitable structure, unless the person was lawfully acting in self-defense; or


(10) Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.


2. Subdivisions (1), (3), (4), (6), (7), (8), (9) and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to or affect any of the following:


(1) All state, county and municipal peace officers who have completed the training required by the police officer standards and training commission pursuant to sections 590.030 to 590.050, RSMo, and possessing the duty and power of arrest for violation of the general criminal laws of the state or for violation of ordinances of counties or municipalities of the state, whether such officers are on or off duty, and whether such officers are within or outside of the law enforcement agency's jurisdiction, or all qualified retired peace officers, as defined in subsection 10 of this section, and who carry the identification defined in subsection 11 of this section, or any person summoned by such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while actually engaged in assisting such officer;


(2) Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime;


(3) Members of the armed forces or national guard while performing their official duty;


(4) Those persons vested by article V, section 1 of the Constitution of Missouri with the judicial power of the state and those persons vested by Article III of the Constitution of the United States with the judicial power of the United States, the members of the federal judiciary;


(5) Any person whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal;


(6) Any federal probation officer or federal flight deck officer as defined under the federal flight deck officer program, 49 U.S.C. Section 44921;


(7) Any state probation or parole officer, including supervisors and members of the board of probation and parole;


(8) Any corporate security advisor meeting the definition and fulfilling the requirements of the regulations established by the board of police commissioners under section 84.340, RSMo; and


(9) Any coroner, deputy coroner, medical examiner, or assistant medical examiner.


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Hapkidoka. Yes Peace Officer status. Thanks for correcting my boo boo.

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LOL Chief at first I thought you called me "boo boo" lol! 


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Hapkidoka. Yes Peace Officer status. Thanks for correcting my boo boo.



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I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



Not sure what law you read on this one?????? In NJ LE carries JHP rounds not FMJ/ball loads. Maybe fed regs are different but you will be hard pressed to find any LEOs in NJ with anything other then JHPs in their duty or off duty weapon. And if by CCC you meant CCW in NJ, lat time I heard there were only a handful of private citizens in our state with CCWs. If you have no need or cannot justify the need for armed self protection you're not getting one in NJ... not to sound like an a++ but bad info leads to bad incidents

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like i posted abouve my advise would be to just get a Mo CCW, if you already work in a prison it will not be hard to get one... I know i posted the state statue above. the reason i did that is it is really not all that clear on if a CO can carry. I have a friend that is a deputy that use to be a CO and he swears up and down that a CO can... well that is not how i read it.  I read it that on duty they can and while they are on duty....


so maybe i am reading it wrong...


but i dont think i am....


just get a CCW that way there is no confusson of if you can or can not carry, I am even thinking of getting a CCW even know i KNOW i can carry off-duty.


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Jay73- I'm glad you posted this. For a while now many LE from out of state were under the impression that we were not allowed to carry hollows in NJ. Your post prompted me to read through the NJ statutes and I discovered that we can. Not that I ever travel to NJ (nothing personal) but for those of you who do:


 f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets.  (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means:  (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.  For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color. 


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Not sure but wouldn't the National Concealed Carry for Cops law (HR 218 ) apply here?  


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Not sure but wouldn't the National Concealed Carry for Cops law (HR 218 ) apply here?  



Not knowing what kind of "powers" their specific department grants them. . . .HR 218 does allow anyone that ". . .is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest. . . .(2)  is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm". 


As a correction officer, unless you are on a transport or work at a specific point where a firearm is "necessary", corrections officers aren't allowed to carry anything but a radio, maybe a whistle and MAYBE a stick.  With that said, I don't think HR 218 really applies to corrections officers. . . unless they work for a police or sheriff's department with the powers vested as a police officer or road deputy.


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I didn't know that about corrections officers.   A Utah CCW or Florida CCW both include Missouri. 


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Here is a link that will let you do some research as to which states CCW permits are respected and where.


http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html


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Mostly all Correctional Officers are authorized by their dept to carry and use a firearm. In most cases firearms authorization is a requirement of employment and the reason you can't be a CO with any conviction of domestic violence including misdemeanors. 


With LEOSA written as it is just about every CO in this country qualifies under it. However most states have certain training requirements that helped limit who does and doesn't qualify under LEOSA. For example IL state CO's fully meet the definition of LEO under the law however the state of IL requires specific firearms training including off duty shooting courses for all of it's LEO's who carry off duty and that training isn't offered to it's CO's and that prevents them from qualifying under the law. 


The best thing any CO or Detention Officer can do is go to their supervisors, legal dept, AG and ask them whether or not they qualify and why or why not.


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GLady13 says ...



Not sure but wouldn't the National Concealed Carry for Cops law (HR 218 ) apply here?  



Not knowing what kind of "powers" their specific department grants them. . . .HR 218 does allow anyone that ". . .is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest. . . .(2)  is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm". 


As a correction officer, unless you are on a transport or work at a specific point where a firearm is "necessary", corrections officers aren't allowed to carry anything but a radio, maybe a whistle and MAYBE a stick.  With that said, I don't think HR 218 really applies to corrections officers. . . unless they work for a police or sheriff's department with the powers vested as a police officer or road deputy.



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I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



I'm Calling BS. What agency?

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Mostly all Correctional Officers are authorized by their dept to carry and use a firearm. In most cases firearms authorization is a requirement of employment and the reason you can't be a CO with any conviction of domestic violence including misdemeanors. 


With LEOSA written as it is just about every CO in this country qualifies under it. However most states have certain training requirements that helped limit who does and doesn't qualify under LEOSA. For example IL state CO's fully meet the definition of LEO under the law however the state of IL requires specific firearms training including off duty shooting courses for all of it's LEO's who carry off duty and that training isn't offered to it's CO's and that prevents them from qualifying under the law. 


The best thing any CO or Detention Officer can do is go to their supervisors, legal dept, AG and ask them whether or not they qualify and why or why not.


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GLady13 says ...



Not sure but wouldn't the National Concealed Carry for Cops law (HR 218 ) apply here?  



Not knowing what kind of "powers" their specific department grants them. . . .HR 218 does allow anyone that ". . .is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest. . . .(2)  is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm". 


As a correction officer, unless you are on a transport or work at a specific point where a firearm is "necessary", corrections officers aren't allowed to carry anything but a radio, maybe a whistle and MAYBE a stick.  With that said, I don't think HR 218 really applies to corrections officers. . . unless they work for a police or sheriff's department with the powers vested as a police officer or road deputy.




Not quite sure what state you are from as your public profile does not indicate it.  That being said, I know that the State Corrections Officers in the state of Michigan do NOT qualify under HR 218 since they do not have the statutory powers of arrest as required by the law.  While a good number of the CO's in the county jails that I have dealt with have been to a police academy so they can vie for the next road position opening, as a CO, they do NOT qualify because they do not have the statutory powers of arrest as required.  Just because they have been to the academy and wear a deputy's uniform does not mean the sheriff has put them into a position of authority to arrest someone on the road.


In the state of Michigan, our Motor Carrier Officers do not qualify under HR 218 even though they have the powers of investigation of the motor carrier laws and the power of arrest for things like drunk driving and driving without a license. . . .our department does not allow them to carry off duty unless they carry under a personal CCW.


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I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



Uh.........HR 218 covers all of us that are certified police or peace officers in this country. I do not know how you may be shown deference to the rest of us us a fed. Perhaps you can enlighten us?


http://www.leaa.org/218/index.html


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I'm using the Google Browser so I can't reply under your post. I first want to admit that I do stand corrected on my comment of "most" qualifying under the law as written."


I'm a Federal CO, however I started with the Illinois DOC. The IDOC legal dept issued it's opinion regarding the law stating almost the same exact reason you just gave in regards to MI. which is one of the states that does not grant it's CO's any form of arrest (survey of DOC's who grant arrest authority). Later a county prosecutor refused to file charges on a CO who was arrested for UUW (unlawful carry) citing LEOSA (out of court). The DOC pushed to have the officer charged and the county disregarded the legal dept opinion. Afterwards the state training requirements came about (which is a good thing) and the dept implemented its own regulations about off duty carry. With that said several officers that I know of have been arrested for UUW since then however none have been charged except one who was dirty and was involved in some other illegal activity at the time of his arrest.


Now don't get me wrong I am not at all saying that all CO's qualify under the law but I am saying that the best way for any CO to know is to ask his legal dept an or supervisor and AG.


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HapkidoKa says ...



Mostly all Correctional Officers are authorized by their dept to carry and use a firearm. In most cases firearms authorization is a requirement of employment and the reason you can't be a CO with any conviction of domestic violence including misdemeanors. 


With LEOSA written as it is just about every CO in this country qualifies under it. However most states have certain training requirements that helped limit who does and doesn't qualify under LEOSA. For example IL state CO's fully meet the definition of LEO under the law however the state of IL requires specific firearms training including off duty shooting courses for all of it's LEO's who carry off duty and that training isn't offered to it's CO's and that prevents them from qualifying under the law. 


The best thing any CO or Detention Officer can do is go to their supervisors, legal dept, AG and ask them whether or not they qualify and why or why not.


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GLady13 says ...



Not sure but wouldn't the National Concealed Carry for Cops law (HR 218 ) apply here?  



Not knowing what kind of "powers" their specific department grants them. . . .HR 218 does allow anyone that ". . .is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest. . . .(2)  is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm". 


As a correction officer, unless you are on a transport or work at a specific point where a firearm is "necessary", corrections officers aren't allowed to carry anything but a radio, maybe a whistle and MAYBE a stick.  With that said, I don't think HR 218 really applies to corrections officers. . . unless they work for a police or sheriff's department with the powers vested as a police officer or road deputy.




Not quite sure what state you are from as your public profile does not indicate it.  That being said, I know that the State Corrections Officers in the state of Michigan do NOT qualify under HR 218 since they do not have the statutory powers of arrest as required by the law.  While a good number of the CO's in the county jails that I have dealt with have been to a police academy so they can vie for the next road position opening, as a CO, they do NOT qualify because they do not have the statutory powers of arrest as required.  Just because they have been to the academy and wear a deputy's uniform does not mean the sheriff has put them into a position of authority to arrest someone on the road.


In the state of Michigan, our Motor Carrier Officers do not qualify under HR 218 even though they have the powers of investigation of the motor carrier laws and the power of arrest for things like drunk driving and driving without a license. . . .our department does not allow them to carry off duty unless they carry under a personal CCW.



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He's talking about being a Federal CO vs state or county- I think...........


 


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jaeger996 says ...



I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



Uh.........HR 218 covers all of us that are certified police or peace officers in this country. I do not know how you may be shown deference to the rest of us us a fed. Perhaps you can enlighten us?


http://www.leaa.org/218/index.html



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Jay73- I'm glad you posted this. For a while now many LE from out of state were under the impression that we were not allowed to carry hollows in NJ. Your post prompted me to read through the NJ statutes and I discovered that we can. Not that I ever travel to NJ (nothing personal) but for those of you who do:


 f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets.  (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means:  (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.  For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color. 



Hap, I knew I had read that somewhere before. I mean as a LEO in NJ I am fully aware of what can be an cannot be carried here the beautiful garden state. That said, I have carried out of state before and never had a problem, so long as i have my ID and badge with me I'm good, Now I also understand that some guys in in other areas get tweaked about a NJ Correction Officers status as fully sworn with statutory authories, it is what it is...the only thing I cant do that a street cop can do is pen a traffic ticket

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even though I have a retired ID and qualify yearly regarding HR218, I attended the four hour Utah class. Not all cops are familiar with the HR218 law. The Utah CCW permit is recognized in the State of Missouri and is good for 5 years.

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jaeger996 says ...



I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



I'm Calling BS. What agency?



My thoughts exactly.


Apparently he's so wrapped up in his federalness that he isn't aware that HR 218 covers all peace officers in the nation....

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BSL1123 says ...



jaeger996 says ...



I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



I'm Calling BS. What agency?



My thoughts exactly.


Apparently he's so wrapped up in his federalness that he isn't aware that HR 218 covers all peace officers in the nation....



And last I checked it didn't say squat about how many rounds you can carry, or what type.

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GTS197 says ...



BSL1123 says ...



jaeger996 says ...



I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



I'm Calling BS. What agency?



My thoughts exactly.


Apparently he's so wrapped up in his federalness that he isn't aware that HR 218 covers all peace officers in the nation....



And last I checked it didn't say squat about how many rounds you can carry, or what type.



There is no such verbage present in the text of the law.

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BSL1123 says ...



GTS197 says ...



BSL1123 says ...



jaeger996 says ...



I work for the feds and we are authorized to carry in all 50 states as long as you follow the ammunition and capacity laws.   HR218


I live in NJ so my weapon is legal in all 50 because in the CCCNJ you can only carry FMJ/Ball ammo and no more than 15 rounds.



I'm Calling BS. What agency?



My thoughts exactly.


Apparently he's so wrapped up in his federalness that he isn't aware that HR 218 covers all peace officers in the nation....



And last I checked it didn't say squat about how many rounds you can carry, or what type.



There is no such verbage present in the text of the law.



Thought so. I love how the Wannabe's make up their own laws and bust themselves out. Makes it so much easier on us.

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