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I have been working as a L.E.O for five years now.  I recently to some time off and and am now looking for a new department to work with, But I am currently having some trouble dealing with the recent losses here in pittsburgh pa  area.  5 officers that I have known have been killed in the line of duty in the past 5 years. The first was in 2007 and the just four this year. Recently Penn Hills officer Crawshaw.  With the other officers that were killed I was able to recive support  from the officers I worked with now that I am currently not working with a police department because i needed to take some personal time and am now looking for a new job. I am having a diffucult time dealing with  the most recent loss here in pittsburgh. I was able to attend the final call today and there are just no words to express the mood and the feeling I have. Im just un sure of how to deal with all this all at once. I am only 27 years old and couldnt image doing anything diffrent but i am scared and kind feel lost with the loss of a fellow brother and the difficulty of finding a new job     any ideas? thank you all in advance


GOD BLESS OUR FALLEN BROTHERS AND THERE FAMILIES    AND OFFICER MIKE CRAWSHAW may you join the many other fallen brothers and sisters above watching over us

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We are only human.  I too have lost very close friends in the line of duty.  I know exactly how you feel.  You might consider finding a smaller department in another town where the crime rate is lower.  It's never easy, but remember what they would have wanted you to do.  Quitting was not an option for me.  It actually made me a stronger officer, and fear never entered the picture, becasue I knew I had to pick up where they left off.  We never get over our grief, we only get through it.


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unger, You need to immediately start counseling.  I'm sure your department has a grief counselor or can get you set up with one.  Your medical insurance may also cover you.  If you belong to a church, you might think about going to your pastor, priest, minister, rabbi etc.  What you are going through is normal although some have greater difficulties dealing with it.  It is not that much different than what our brothers and sisters deployed over seas are dealing with.  Give yourself a Christmas present and get some help.  We'll be right here to support you. 

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  I have been a police officer for 37 years. The average person who last more than five years in this job will continue in this career as a police officer. I have personally loss friends that were officers and have attended too many police funerals.  You never get totally over it but you must put it in prospective. Police work is not like any other job. Many people do not understand the nature of the business and cannot relate to how you feel when we loss one of the finest people in the world.  If you do not feel anything, as to the loss of the brothers in blue, you are in the wrong profession and need to find a different job.  We all grieve in different ways, It will take some time but it will pass. You will always remember those who have been killed in the line of duty.


It makes you sick to your stomach to hear about officers that have been killed but you must remain strong. You have the ability to continue on in your career, if you choose to stay in the field of police work.  You need to not forget those that have made the ultimate sacrafice but continue to remind those that forget a time passes about the fallen heros.  The reminder is that police officers must remain vigilant against these "urban terrorists" that have declared war on the American law enforcement.  I wish I had a answer for every time someone ask why did this police officer die. There is no one answer to that question. Recently, more officers have been killed in the line of duty and we are more aware of these murders.  You must ask yourself "DO I want to continue as a police officer? Only you can answer that question. I believe you can continue in law enforcement. We need people to make a different regardless what capacitry they play in this field.


It is OK to question, if you can continue in this business because you are HUMAN. Do not sell yourself short. You must remember there are three things a police officer can do:  1. He can save a life, 2. He can take a life, or 3. He can change a life.   If you have no had the opportunity to visit the National Police Officers Memorial in Washington DC, you need to plan to visit there next year during National Police Week and especially to participate in the Candlelight Vigil.  I have gone for the past two years and it helps to understand why we do what we do.  The feeling that you experience will put things in prospective and give you the courage and energy to continue in this occupation. Just remember, You already have made the different. It is ok to grieve for the fallen heros but someone must carry on the tradition to protect society from themselves.

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Definitely go to the Police Memorial. I went there in '96. It will help you out.You will seeWhy you do what you do.

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Concerns of Police Survivors (C.O.P.S.) sponsors numerous clinics during police week in D.C.  They have trained counselors there to assist those that have a need.  I would recommend checking them out.  I also agree with SkoolCop, get some help bud.  Find a trained, professional, that has dealt with police officers.  There is an in-house treatment center in Springfield, Mo. that only deals with cops and while I don't think you need to make that trip, I would imagine that they could recommend somebody in your area.


I hope you deal with your fear before climbing back in the saddle of LEO.  I would hate for it to cause you a problem that cannot be corrected.


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unger, PM sent

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If your prior department had a EAP program, that really helps. Lots of the trained personnel area actually cops.


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This reply goes to Unger (previous post) and my fellow LEOs in general.  I am both a full-time cop and a police chaplain.  That makes me politically incorrect squared (at least).  However, the truth is that our LE careers -- at least as we know them now -- will in fact end.  Same for our lives -- we will all die.  The only difference is that God has given us a choice.  Moreover, our very authority as cops comes to us from His Word (the Bible) in Romans 13:1-7.  Yes, I know I'll get a bunch of nasty notes about how the "Constitution" mandates "separation of church and state" (it DOESN'T) and stuff like "I don't believe that..." about the Bible.  Ref. the latter, time/space does not allow me to cover the whole topic here but 2 + 2 = 4 no matter how much you are free to "believe" the answer to be "5."   Bottom line is that the "job" does not guarantee us a place in Heaven (despite any nice poem citing otherwise).  Rather, only a personal relationship with the Risen Savior can do that.   LE is -- or should be -- a calling.  Getting into and surviving it is very difficult at best and doing it "alone" is impossible.  Moreover, find yourself in trouble and you will be hard-pressed to find all your "buddies" who will in fact scatter when things get to hot or you no longer carry a shield.  God, on the other hand, will never leave or forsake His own. 


Ref. Unger:  My brother, it would have been much easier to find another agency if you were still employed.  You will now also have to deal with explaining why you left and where you are mentally now (psych issues).  Find yourself a solid Christian chaplain or better yet a FCPO chapter in your area (see www.FCPO.org, www.POFCI.org, or my website below).  Stay the course!


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Hello my friend. I understand just what you are feeling. In defence of our great nation, I have lost friends too.  As you know vietnam war touch many family. What ever help is present go after it. Here on police link is a good place to start. STAY STRONG...

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UNGER-WE ALL FEEL THE LOSS-DAILY WE ARE REMINDED OF THE SACRIFICES MADE BY OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. TALK TO US BRO-WE ARE ALL HERE JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF LISTENING TO YOU-PM ME ANYTIME-Not everyone is meant to be a warrior, everyone deals with the loss or loved ones or fellow officers or friends differently,In this jobwe see the absolutely worst in people and in life-STAY HARD BRO.

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I have been working as a L.E.O for five years now.  I recently to some time off and and am now looking for a new department to work with, But I am currently having some trouble dealing with the recent losses here in pittsburgh pa  area.  5 officers that I have known have been killed in the line of duty in the past 5 years. The first was in 2007 and the just four this year. Recently Penn Hills officer Crawshaw.  With the other officers that were killed I was able to recive support  from the officers I worked with now that I am currently not working with a police department because i needed to take some personal time and am now looking for a new job. I am having a diffucult time dealing with  the most recent loss here in pittsburgh. I was able to attend the final call today and there are just no words to express the mood and the feeling I have. Im just un sure of how to deal with all this all at once. I am only 27 years old and couldnt image doing anything diffrent but i am scared and kind feel lost with the loss of a fellow brother and the difficulty of finding a new job     any ideas? thank you all in advance


GOD BLESS OUR FALLEN BROTHERS AND THERE FAMILIES    AND OFFICER MIKE CRAWSHAW may you join the many other fallen brothers and sisters above watching over us



"For we would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning our affliction ...that we were weighed down exceedingly, beyond our power, insomuch that we despaired even of life:  yea, we ourselves have had the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God..." --2 Corinthians 1:8,9


You will make it through this time and you will become a better person and officer as a result of it.  I will keep you in my prayers and hope to hear back when things pick up for you.

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Thank you  everyone. the support is great. Im sure youll be glad to know i am doing ok and am working even harder to find a new department. my hubby to be has decided to change our vacation plans for next year and instead of going to the beach we are going to the police memorial. The whole year has been a very tough one here in pa 5 officer killed and all by gun fire. Its kinda scary but with the passing of these officers and with the most recent one just 2 weeks ago it has put a fire under my ass to get back up and back out there. for my fallen brothers and myself.

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he unger, i need to revisit the national police memorial in dc also some day soon. i had etchings of all the engravings of my lost friends and some were lost by an ex, so, if you guys need a liitle company, its only a two day drive-let me know.