General Forums >> The Lobby >> why is it so hard to get in?

Rate

why is it so hard to get in?

6,880 Views
24 Replies Flag as inappropriate
Photo_user_blank_big

5 posts

back to top

Posted over 4 years ago

 

I'm currently a criminal justice student at westwood college that just turned 23, that lives on the northwest side of chicago. I have applied to the following police departments in the last 5 months: 1.River grove,IL     2. Maywood,IL    3. niles,IL   4. Villa Park,IL    5. the NYPD   off the top of my head.  I also applied to be an auxillary officer for Niles,IL  and  Norridge,IL.  I even signed up for a ride-a-long with the chicago police and the illinois state police with no luck, for either auxillary or ride-a-long.


WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET INTO ANYTHING?


 

Ferret_max50

582 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

coastie86,


     Could be a multitude of reasons ... how far are you advancing within the process? Are you at least getting to the oral review board or the backround investigations? Anything including your credit, driving, work, and criminal histories will play a part in the decision process of hiring you. In your personal history packet, are you leaving any lines blank? I'm not sure what's getting you disqualified, but I'm just putting possibilities out there.


     Also, you can refer to this discussion to gather a little insight of what the agencies look for in their applicants ...


http://policelink.monster.com/topics/69086-why-cant-i-get-hired/posts


The integrity of your word is its greatest respect! - "Talon"

Photo_user_blank_big

5 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

(Im 43rd on the waiting list for maywood,IL until 2011) and for the other police departmets, i passed their written exams and i'm waiting for my oral interview date announcements to come.... the next one coming upis River grove,IL on dec. 5th for the oral interview.


I have an absolutely spotless backround with out even a speeding ticket on it.


My credit is good.


and i ive filled out so many applications i have it down to a science basically (can do it in 30. min.)


Really good grades academically


i do need to improve my interview skills though.....i need to be more comfortable and less stressed i think

White_shirt_max50

4894 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

It sounds like you have it going for you. Work on your interviewing skills. Check your attire also. I would hate to compete now days for a law enforcement position. Hang in there and don't give up.

Lone_ranger_max50

592 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Let us know how the one goes on the 5th.  Good luck.


"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone"- Al Capone

PL Mentoring Team Member

Meangreen01_max50

2482 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Another little insight... you're applying in IL!  From what I read in the news, they're laying off a lot of LEOs in IL.  It's going to be hard to find a job there when they've got LEOs on the chopping block. 


If you're willing to move you may have better luck in another state or with the Federal service (www.usajobs.gov).


"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." ~ George Orwell

"Honor First!"

MODERATOR #1 & PL Mentoring Team Member

-77 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

I know in Ohio, you need to have your Academy out of the way, or most agencies will not even consider you. The area is also having layoffs. However, in my opinion attitude is everything. I had the mindset that I have 5 mouths to feed, and I HAD to find a job - and was very determined. Out of an academy of 26, I am one of three that is working (1 year out). I got offered jobs at a handful of departments.


I even went as far as letting my fellow academy grads' know which agencies I turned down, and instead of applying and following through, they dragged their feet and cried about how frustrating the job hunt was.

Cute_max50

410 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

 If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!  And enough morons get through the process as it is...I for one am glad it's a hard process.  Sucks at the time but you'll be glad the process is as hard as it is when you get through it :)  Good luck!


 


If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.

Good-guysjpg-a87be92e015c863e_max50

548 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

just hang in there SPORT. Getting hired is seriously a waiting game. Next thing you know it you will have like 3 or 4 job offers and you will be the one deciding on which PD you want to work for.    Patience is a seriously a virtue.......GOOD LUCK


R.I.P "Macho Man" Randy Savage

Photo_user_blank_big

5 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Let us know how the one goes on the 5th.  Good luck.


 


 


I will let you know thanks everyone for your advice/ support/ help, i needed it. 

-61 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

This is the kind of thread I dislike seeing. Good men(and women) who can't get hired. We need you. The country needs you. Please keep a positive attitude and be patient. There will be a dept. that notices you.

Photo_user_blank_big

5 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Thanks Sgt405 it just sucks. I try so hard and spend so much time and money into trying to get on to a department. I know it takes time, but trying to get hired in illinois as a LEO is sooo crappy now. I have taken the test at NY in september, and i am willing to relocate or move out of state to fullfil my dream.

-191 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

You did not say if you were certified, I'm not sure of the statis of IL,, I think it allows limited self sponsering,  If you are not certified, you will have a tough time where you are as there are certified officers with some experience that were laid off and back in the job pool, an uncertified person has a hard time competing with laid off  certified officers.

1979_max50

3264 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

There are places to look around to find out who is hiring all over the USA, policelink being one of them. Keep a good attitude and someone will pick you up. As others have stated, in Ill there are many good certified LEO's out there also looking for a job.

2007-2008_114_max600_max50

368 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

NYPD is supposed to be hiring a big class in July.  Most department aren't hiring due to the recession.  As the economy continues to recover the jobs will come back.  Just be patient.


Have ASP will travel.

Justice is the one thing you should always find, you gotta saddle up your boys you gotta draw a hard line.

When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune and we'll all meet back at the local saloon.

And we'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing whiskey for my men beer for my horses.

74596_129289523905506_927477597_n_max50

1076 posts

back to top
+1

Rated +1 | Posted over 4 years ago

 

coastie86 says ...



Thanks Sgt405 it just sucks. I try so hard and spend so much time and money into trying to get on to a department. I know it takes time, but trying to get hired in illinois as a LEO is sooo crappy now. I have taken the test at NY in september, and i am willing to relocate or move out of state to fullfil my dream.



My opinion is that maybe it has nothing to do with you at all but the economy (I can't say it's your background since I don't know you and I'm not judgemental like that haha)...We've had a lot get laid off here in California this past year and only now are they slowly starting the hiring process in my area. Some areas aren't hiring at all and some are always hiring...keep your ears open! I know Ventura County, CA has opening slots for new recruits in the sheriff dep't, I was told this in my policing course so look it up if you're interested.


All I can say is hang in there :)


Adapt, improvise and overcome.
YaYa Dancing Wolf

Jpd_new_max50

1893 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Hello fellow Illinoisan.  Welcome to LE limbo.  As someone who was in your shoes nearly 20 years ago, I know your pain.  I was a former Northsider like yourself and tested everywhere.  It took nearly 3 years to be hired for me, so don't be discouraged.  Things in LE hiring take a little more time than your average job.  Unfortunately for you the economy has taken a crap.  Departments used to hire like crazy in the Chicagoland area, but times are a little tougher. 


Add in the fact that you are testing against former Military (preference points), a lot of people who attended highly acclaimed Universities/Colleges in the area (Western Illinois University's CJ program is #2 in the Nation), and other certified Officers (either layed off or trying to better themselves).  You might as well add in the people who never dreamed of being a LEO, but enjoy the financial security and benefits of the job (these people scare me).


When I initially tested, I went everywhere in the Chicagoland area.  I was on numerous eligibility lists.  I also tested after I became a Cop to get onto a better PD.  I even tested with Chicago and went through with their processing only to turn them down (their residency rules killed me). 


5 months is nothing.  You have to remember it may take a year or more before you are finally called with a conditional offer of employment.  It could be a few more weeks or months of testing and background work after that.  It took Chicago PD 5 years before they started processing me!   


As for ride-a-longs, ask one of your school's instructors if they can set you up with one.  You cannot attend a State certified Police Academy in Illinois unless you are hired by a Department/Agency.  Auxilary, Community Service Officers, and other part time support units are usually not used in larger Departments like CPD or the IL State Police.  If you are looking for a "foot in the door" job try applying for a Dispatcher or Correctional Officer (State or County) position.  These jobs are crucial to LE and are a great way to learn how to interact with people. 


Check out my post in the Illinois LE Forum Group: http://policelink.monster.com/topics/56600-testing-in-illinois/posts


There are postings about upcoming tests in that Group also.


Good luck and STAY PATIENT!


"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu

PL Mentoring Team Member

-1 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

First off; encouragement. Hang in there brother! You seem to have the heart and background that can really take you far in LE. There are lots of resources out there that will help your interview skills. If you think that is what is holding you back, keep working on that area.


Secondly; observation. Law enforcement seems to attract very driven and dedicated people. In my local department I noticed that nearly everyone has a TON of qualifications. When I talk to a Sergent in my Dept. about his/her experience, the list of divisions and certifications and projects that she/he has takes around 15-20 minutes just to cover! No exaggeration. This trend seems to be part of what makes law enforcement so very competative. Combine that with the slow economy and you get what you are getting now.


Lastly; more encouragement. Hang in there! Law enforcement is a marathon, not a sprint. Your patience and determination will be tested again and again. Try not to burn yourself out but make sure your stay on fire. Think torch vs fireball. A fireball can be neat and powerful but then it is gone and is of no real use to anyone. A torch lasts and lasts and it lights the way for others. Keep honing in on your dream to be a LEO, don't give up and one day you will be part of that light that our society needs in these dark times.

6921071_max50

749 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

I would try alot in Indiana dude.


"Train like there is no tomorrow, and there will be a tomorrow!" - Unknown

Dogs_max50

426 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

You may have to be willing to relocate.  The Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, right outside of New Orleans, is a good place.  Think about it.

Photo__1__max50

151 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

chiefdennis says ...



It sounds like you have it going for you. Work on your interviewing skills. Check your attire also. I would hate to compete now days for a law enforcement position. Hang in there and don't give up.



Attire is  HUGE problem.  One of my instructors was talking to us about oral interviews and said something that really nailed it.  What really sets you apart is your appearance, go get fitted for a real suit and tie.  Dont just go to walmart and pick up a dress shirt.  Well groomed, clean shave, and good attitude really sets you apart from many of the other candidates.

-126 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Took me 10yrs, 15 interviews and numerous hours of training and schooling! But it was worth every minute of it!   Good luck!


 


 


 


 


 

Photo__1__max50

151 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

I just wanted to touch on something that I didnt  get to in my previous post.  My father had a best friend who was a police officer locally around the poconos.  He worked for a long time as a police dispatcher in new jersey, then moved to PA and worked for an armed security community, took any test that came up.  It took him about 10 years.  He was the nicest person I have ever met.  My father is also a retired police officer from new jersey so I have been around law enforcement my whole life, and was raised much differently than people my age.  My dads friends name was Jeff.  He was in a terrible situation with his wife and committed suicide about 2 years ago.  I truely want to be the police officer he was.  Everybody loved him, he was always helping people, had tons of contacts, it was just unbelievable the things he did for people.  My whole point is, do not give up.  It is not a profession where they just hire any bum off the street, and if this is truely what you want to do then you will keep your head up and do it.

Photo_user_blank_big

8 posts

back to top
Rate

Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

There are a few depts hiring up by me, Green Bay WI, Neenah, WI Appleton, WI just to name a few... Great places to live, not to bad cost of living and good schools to raise a family, Not sure of the hiring process as I have yet to graduate and explore that realm... Good Luck to you!!


Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall.....Confucius
If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you can become it....William Arthur Ward