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during the 70's an off shoot group of Black Panthers formed the BLACK LIBERATION ARMY.This group was wanted for assasinations of police officers from coast to coast. In the 13th Division, an adhoc  BLA task force was set up. A detective was assigned to each known bla member to know that members life history and to be the resident expert on that person. In january of 73, det. bill herman of the 13th robbery sqd signed affidavits requesting wire taps on a bla members home knowing that person had an anniversary coming up soon. On January 23rd 1973, Mikiesplace was sitting with det. herman in the basement of a welfare center located two blocks from the suspects home. at approx. 2300 that evening a female caller called the house and asked the woman if she would care to do some champagne at the Big T louunge located in a very badass section of brooklyn. Rightly assuming this meant the woman was to meet and celebrate her anniversary with her wanted Black Liberation Army husband, we armed up, put out the alert to the troops standing by, and began a stakeout of the Big T Lounge. Two heroic and brave nypd detectives, 13th homocide, entered the lounge in hopes of id'ing the perp. Inside were not only the wanted Bla member but two additional bla members.  The detectives were made, gunbattle ensued, we were throwing shotgun rounds thru the bar windows to distract the bla shooters while others entered the melee inside the bar.  (sorry guys, till this day my hands still shake alot when i relive this one) both were shot and wounded and subsequently retired medically. TWO BLA MEMBERS DOA AND ONE WOUNDED SERIOUSLY. It wasn't a bad tradeoff I guess, though on the 25th and 28th of January, 4 nypd officers were machine-gunned in retaliation.  more to come , join the group New York City Police and read a year by year account of the war against the BLA. Please also read about the brave officers who lost their lives during the turbulent 70's at the site NYPD Angels.

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When are you going to write a book with all these wonderful stories in it? let me know, I'll be 1st in line to buy it !!! We are ready for you next installment !


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during the 70's an off shoot group of Black Panthers formed the BLACK LIBERATION ARMY.This group was wanted for assasinations of police officers from coast to coast. In the 13th Division, an adhoc  BLA task force was set up. A detective was assigned to each known bla member to know that members life history and to be the resident expert on that person. In january of 73, det. bill herman of the 13th robbery sqd signed affidavits requesting wire taps on a bla members home knowing that person had an anniversary coming up soon. On January 23rd 1973, Mikiesplace was sitting with det. herman in the basement of a welfare center located two blocks from the suspects home. at approx. 2300 that evening a female caller called the house and asked the woman if she would care to do some champagne at the Big T louunge located in a very badass section of brooklyn. Rightly assuming this meant the woman was to meet and celebrate her anniversary with her wanted Black Liberation Army husband, we armed up, put out the alert to the troops standing by, and began a stakeout of the Big T Lounge. Two heroic and brave nypd detectives, 13th homocide, entered the lounge in hopes of id'ing the perp. Inside were not only the wanted Bla member but two additional bla members.  The detectives were made, gunbattle ensued, we were throwing shotgun rounds thru the bar windows to distract the bla shooters while others entered the melee inside the bar.  (sorry guys, till this day my hands still shake alot when i relive this one) both were shot and wounded and subsequently retired medically. TWO BLA MEMBERS DOA AND ONE WOUNDED SERIOUSLY. It wasn't a bad tradeoff I guess, though on the 25th and 28th of January, 4 nypd officers were machine-gunned in retaliation.  more to come another day.



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ya think we could talk to brad to play the part of me? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS NUTS??BOOK??I ONLY TALK TO YOU GUYS. besides, other people dont understand or care to understand the sacrifices made by the men and women in law enforcement.

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you may be right Mike, but I think your stories are GREAT !!!!


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Cops care and most of us can actually read a little bit, if you don't use big words.  What is to lose?


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let me try to put an end to  this. I sicerely thank all my friends on pl for their interest in some of my old war stories but you have to understand that policelink is my thereapy. It is not always easy to t alk about events as they bring back to vivid of memories..Last nite, when my girl got home from work, we were talking about things,sharing a glass of wine, and i broke out crying all of a sudden. writing the story about them getting shot brought back too much.I could feel my throat burning from screaming, i could feel the slipperiness of the blood all over, the crying in pain, everyone yelling at the top of their lungs, the noice is deafening, the absolute fear i can still feel, the  momentary feeling of helplessness, desperately trying to carry a limp body, covered with blood to an rmp to rush a wounded fellow cop to the hospital. the numbness takes awaile to set in. The fear it brings back-

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PSD sucks Mike, but we are here for you. Anytime you need to vent someone will be here. Ralphie was there when you were, I KNOW he understands. I'm around a lot too, shoot me a pm if you don't want to vent in the open threads ! In college (years ago) a lot of my friends were there on the GI Bill from Nam. For some reason, they always felt comfortable telling me stuff they couldn't tell other civilians.


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Write  down these stories, man!

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Mike I do know what your talking about, I´m very sure most of us still wake up in the middle of the night with vivid dreams of the job writing them down does help empty the crap out of the head but still think Matt Damon should play you!!


 


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naw , i'm gonna go with harvey keitel to play you ; seasoned with all the bitterness and gruff , yet a funny bone that needs tingling every once in a while. ( did i say tingling ? )


i am not comparing those events to 9/11 but when that day happened (even though i was in arizona at the time) persons around me said " well , it doesn't affect me" .  WHAT !!??!!  i told them that 9/11 will change the way we as americans will live our lives from this day forward !


some people understand our jobs/moral dilemmas' and others will never get it.


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Remember Foster  and  Laurie  movie  in the  70's ? Was  that  B.L.A.? Don't Remember.

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Remember Foster  and  Laurie  movie  in the  70's ? Was  that  B.L.A.? Don't Remember.


1975 Two New York City police officers, one white and one black,  ambushed and murder by black revolutionaries. 

 

 


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izzy, visit my post in the group-FRIENDS ON THE WALL-names on the wall.

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Hey Mikiesplace:  Do you remember Deerfoot?  I'm still pushing for the Medal of Honor that Inspector Gleason put me in for.  At the moment the DEA is supposed to be writing a nice article on what happened that night and some background as to some things that I had done in my life that prepared me for the Police Department.  The way I was raised and disaplined by my parents and the military to the point that if I was asked by a commanding officer to do a job, like I did that night I just didn't have any way of saying no to a supervisor.  There was no way that I could dicline the request.  That decision  left me crippled for life and in constant pain.  The incident has taken it's tole on my family but we are still trying to keep it together even after open heart surgery.  About to celebrate our 50th anniversary this year with one grandchild.  Let me hear from you.  Love and care to one who came down the pike with an open invitation to the Water Hole Number 1.  Thanks and let me hear from youl

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deerfoot, who do you think you are? HUGGYBEAR ON SOME STARSKY AND HUTCH MOVIE??  what are you doin on a police link line? have you been tellin the feds lies to try to get some fast cash? what is it you are lookin for? heres a way to check your bonafides- i like the inspector gleason thing-now tell me about phil h.

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LIke I said, ask Inspector Gleason if he is still alive.  Please answer my questions. Is Phil alive or dead?  Where did Phil get hit?  What was his wife's name? Was there another Detective in the bar that night?  Were you a Uniformed officer and in what Command did you work?  If you are really sincere, I would like to talk to you.

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deerfoot, who do you think you are? HUGGYBEAR ON SOME STARSKY AND HUTCH MOVIE??  what are you doin on a police link line? have you been tellin the feds lies to try to get some fast cash? what is it you are lookin for? heres a way to check your bonafides- i like the inspector gleason thing-now tell me about phil h.



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For all that are interested in the war between the NYPD and the BLA, pick up the book, "CIRCLE OF SIX", by NYPD Detective Randy Jurgensen.This book will make you proud to be a cop and have nothing but bitter contempt for the top brass of the NYPD and the political leadership of NYC. Detective Jurgensen describes in vivid detail how the NYPD brass and Mayor's office attempted to whitewash the murder of NYPD Police Officer, Phil Cardillo at the hands of  Louis Farrakhan and members of the Nation of Islam, Mosque # 7 in Harlem. Jurgensen details the gun battles with Tyman Myers and other members of the BLA. Detective Jurgensen and officers from that era were one of a kind, policing then and now will clearly be like day and night to the reader.

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For all that are interested in the war between the NYPD and the BLA, pick up the book, "CIRCLE OF SIX", by NYPD Detective Randy Jurgensen.This book will make you proud to be a cop and have nothing but bitter contempt for the top brass of the NYPD and the political leadership of NYC. Detective Jurgensen describes in vivid detail how the NYPD brass and Mayor's office attempted to whitewash the murder of NYPD Police Officer, Phil Cardillo at the hands of  Louis Farrakhan and members of the Nation of Islam, Mosque # 7 in Harlem. Jurgensen details the gun battles with Tyman Myers and other members of the BLA. Detective Jurgensen and officers from that era were one of a kind, policing then and now will clearly be like day and night to the reader.



             Yes you hit the nail right on the head although my years on the job in the NYPD was later but still on our minds on the subject with the BLA!!


 


 

 


 
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Hey, Mikiesplace, and all other officers who worked during that era trying to obliviate domestic terrorists, who were attemping to overthrow our form of government please know this: the only thing that I deserve and desire after all these years of pain and suffering is The Medal of Honor that we were promised.  I remember Randy when he was a plain clothes officer in the 28th Precinct Squad.  Segree, Col. Holland, Hurd and other detectives who were actually on the scene when Meyers went down. That was in the Bronx when he came out of a grocery store and was met by the New York City Detectives.   Thanks Ralphie8119. and Oncethere.

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Mikiesplace,  Last time I checked this is a place for fellow officers to have open discussions.  Deerfoot has every right to be on this link according to his story.  Until someone can walk in his shoes or Phil H  then you can't  be judgemental..  Those bullets that night did not have names on them and you are right it was a life changing experience and many lives were changed that night.  So lets not down play his response or the memory of our fallen officers especially during those years of not knowing if you were coming home once you left your family heading to work.  God bless those who lived to tell the stories and may those who did not make it rest in peace.  The reality of the BLA years were heartfelt and extremely dangerous, and that is why you can still hear the screams and the rounds being fired til this day at the Big T Lounge.  IT'S REAL AND IF A FELLOW OFFICER WANTS TO SHARE HIS STORY, THEN RESPECT HIM.  Deerfoot is on here to share/vent just like you.  Trust the night he left he did not know his experience was going to change him forever.  Lets just be grateful you and the other officers were there to help your brothers come out alive.   Thank you for starting a topic on which some of your brothers can discuss and share.   ITS A VERY SENSATIVE TOPIC FOR SOME.

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Hey, Mikiesplace, and all other officers who worked during that era trying to obliviate domestic terrorists, who were attemping to overthrow our form of government please know this: the only thing that I deserve and desire after all these years of pain and suffering is The Medal of Honor that we were promised.  I remember Randy when he was a plain clothes officer in the 28th Precinct Squad.  Segree, Col. Holland, Hurd and other detectives who were actually on the scene when Meyers went down. That was in the Bronx when he came out of a grocery store and was met by the New York City Detectives.   Thanks Ralphie8119. and Oncethere.



Deerfoot please give us a brief history of you´re self,  you seem to be hurting and we know you´re looking for satisfaction from the services you´ve performed, many of us would like to help you if we knew exactly the who /what / and most important where!


 


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Hello Ralph8119:  Mikiesplace opened the blog about The Big T Lounge.  Believe me, he knows part of my story.  I deeply appreciate your inquiry but I have decided to let the Detective Endownment  Association handle my story.  Wildrice truly understands my situation and I thank you and Wildrice for your comments.  Yes, I am anxious to share the true story about what had happened in the Bit T Lounge that night but not until I get the go ahead from the organization. I however, will try to communicate with you.  Please try to understand and in a few months you will have the whole story not half and certainly the truth about what happened.  Do you know that the commissioner never visited me!  But after all these years it is neither here nor there.  My familhy and I are very grateful to be alive.  Again, thank you so much for your kind comments.



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Hello Ralph8119:  Mikiesplace opened the blog about The Big T Lounge.  Believe me, he knows part of my story.  I deeply appreciate your inquiry but I have decided to let the Detective Endownment  Association handle my story.  Wildrice truly understands my situation and I thank you and Wildrice for your comments.  Yes, I am anxious to share the true story about what had happened in the Bit T Lounge that night but not until I get the go ahead from the organization. I however, will try to communicate with you.  Please try to understand and in a few months you will have the whole story not half and certainly the truth about what happened.  Do you know that the commissioner never visited me!  But after all these years it is neither here nor there.  My familhy and I are very grateful to be alive.  Again, thank you so much for your kind comments.


Deerfoot: Always remember, it doesn't matter what the commissioner or what anyone else thinks. As long as you know the complete truth of what happened at the Big T Lounge, that's all that really matters! We all have to be content with ourselves when we close our eyes at night. Your conscience is the most important thing here!


" It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." ----Thomas Huxley


I can recall working with Joseph Piagentini's daughter years later, she went on to become a Deputy US Marshal. As you know her dad was also gunned down by the BLA. I always remember her telling me how she was a little girl when Joe went down and how she hardly got to know her father. She knew from her dad's friends and former partners of how great a man he was. I always told her, if you know that honest men always spoke that way about him, than that's who her dad was and how she should always remember him.




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Mikiesplace,  Last time I checked this is a place for fellow officers to have open discussions.  Deerfoot has every right to be on this link according to his story.  Until someone can walk in his shoes or Phil H  then you can't  be judgemental..  Those bullets that night did not have names on them and you are right it was a life changing experience and many lives were changed that night.  So lets not down play his response or the memory of our fallen officers especially during those years of not knowing if you were coming home once you left your family heading to work.  God bless those who lived to tell the stories and may those who did not make it rest in peace.  The reality of the BLA years were heartfelt and extremely dangerous, and that is why you can still hear the screams and the rounds being fired til this day at the Big T Lounge.  IT'S REAL AND IF A FELLOW OFFICER WANTS TO SHARE HIS STORY, THEN RESPECT HIM.  Deerfoot is on here to share/vent just like you.  Trust the night he left he did not know his experience was going to change him forever.  Lets just be grateful you and the other officers were there to help your brothers come out alive.   Thank you for starting a topic on which some of your brothers can discuss and share.   ITS A VERY SENSATIVE TOPIC FOR SOME.



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Thanks for the heads up but it should include all others who were calling a hero officer a teddy bear.  Believe me, when those domestic terrorists were running around the city cutting officers down, walking up behind them when they were walking their beats, shooting them in the back and when they were down  ain't no damn joke.  All the truly American families whose husbands left for work to protect the city suffered like honorable people  will never know.  My tears still flow heavy for these families. It is an experience that cuts through you for all of your life.  I intend to read Circle of Six.  All I can say is it is extremely painful and I am glad the perpetrators are gone and I am glad I helped to stop them. Thanks again and I wish you Gods Blessings. By the way, my family and I went to DC and I have all of the officers who went down during that awful time in my scrap book.  You can take a piece of paper and rub it over the names  that are on the wall with a pencil and it is a very humbling experience to see their names and to know that you touched their lives in a deeply profound way. 

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SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR ME TO RESPOND BUT I HAVE BEEN SKIING MY ASS OFF IN 2 FEET OF POWDER AND SLEEPING WHEN NOT. now to wildrice-cute handle, yes, this is a site for officers to have open discuszsions-so i would recommend that you follow rdndfiredad's suggestion and you follow the terms of use and then we can be sure whom we are talking to. I have had personal c ontac t with deerfot and am attempting to check his bonafides-until i feel comfortable with whom i am talking with-that is where it shall stay for now. As i told deerfoot, there were only two young white guys with mustaches there, one from 13th div. robbery who was armed with a pump shotgun and me armed with two revolvers and wearing a blue bulletproof vest. uh and deerfoot-you gotta read a little better, i said huggy bear as in confidential informant huggy bear from the old starsky and hutch days-

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Mikie, Wildrice can't hear you, apparently he's is currently serving a time out sentence !!! (banned)


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SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR ME TO RESPOND BUT I HAVE BEEN SKIING MY ASS OFF IN 2 FEET OF POWDER AND SLEEPING WHEN NOT. now to wildrice-cute handle, yes, this is a site for officers to have open discuszsions-so i would recommend that you follow rdndfiredad's suggestion and you follow the terms of use and then we can be sure whom we are talking to. I have had personal c ontac t with deerfot and am attempting to check his bonafides-until i feel comfortable with whom i am talking with-that is where it shall stay for now. As i told deerfoot, there were only two young white guys with mustaches there, one from 13th div. robbery who was armed with a pump shotgun and me armed with two revolvers and wearing a blue bulletproof vest. uh and deerfoot-you gotta read a little better, i said huggy bear as in confidential informant huggy bear from the old starsky and hutch days-



              Mike I wouldn´t put to much into these two,  apparently their the same person and 100% mentally disturbed one is banned which means that the other is having a conniption shit with himself, LOL so enjoy the white snow my brother will take care of the yellow half of it!!!


 

 


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