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Posted over 7 years ago

 

There has been a lot of news coverage regarding parents blaming the Virginia Tech Police Department response to the initial shooting and for not immediately sending out a notice about the first two murders in the college dorm.

It seems to me that whenever a major tragedy like this happens our society is quick to start casting blame at whoever they can. In this case, the outstanding officers of the VT Police Department are the target. Is the Virginia Tech Police Department really responsible for the actions of a mentally deranged killer?

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

From the reports and interviews I have seen, the VT Police had what they thought was a domestic murder. A boyfriend killing his girlfriend, and a man that tried to intervene in the argument. That happens every day in the United States. The police developed leads that pointed at the boyfriend of the girl. They were actively pursuing that lead. In that case, you bradcast a discription of the perp over the radio and search the building.

It just not possible to shut down a 2500 acre campus with over 30,000 people on it. The campus is huge. There was NO WAY to anticipate that there would be any more violence. How many murder scene have we all been to? How many times while we are investigating, does the killer go out and kill others? Almost never. The police acted properly, in conducting their investigation. Again, they had a dime a dozen murder, not extraordinary about it, and no reason for them to lock down an entire mini city.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I wouldn't call VA Tech a "dime a dozen murder" scene. It was a little more than that. However, I cannot fault the Police Dept. for what happened. The college played a huge part in what happened. For two years they knew this young man was unstable. For two years people expressed concern and nooone did anything about it. If blame is to be placed, then place it on every student, faculty member and administrator who chose to ignore ALL the warning signs of a sociopath.

The police dept. was not privy to the day to day problems of this Cho character. Nor is it their job to babysit an errant acting student. This was truly a tragedy and I am sure every officer in that area feels bad, but to lay blame at their feet is irresponsible and unwarranted.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I must agree with you guys on this. It's easy to play monday-morning quarterback on a situation, but none of these critics were there. None of them have the responsability on their shoulders, and no one has examined all the evidence from all the angles. The VA Tech officers did everything they could as best as possible and should not be blamed for what happened.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I also agree.

It is a very sad thing to me, that the people who put themselves at risk to deal with the bad guys so often become the lightning rod for victims' anger (and society's judgment).

And I hate to think of what these officers were dealing with that day, and in the days since-- to deal with so many random murder victims, so many of them young!

Awful.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I am sure that the Virginia Tech Police Department would have prevented this horrible crime if it had been within their ability to foresee the future.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

In the media reports that i have seen, they keep doing this Hind site thing. The college staff and administration had the warning sigfns flashed in their faces, but they did not act on them. So many times, society overlooks what is right or wrong, for the sake of being "Politically Correct". He never threatened to kill 100 people with a gun, he just wrote about it. Give me a break. Thats a huge warning sign that something aint right with that person. it's not the fault of the Police, but unfortunately, they get the blame because they are out in the front row. They are all quick to blame evryone but themselves, which in my opinion, is where the blame belongs.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I have heard that one of his teachers did refer him to counselling. Haven't heard whether or not he actually went and worked with a counselor.

But, as someone who does a bit of counselling, let me say that that is no sure and easy answer, just to get someone to counselling! Medications may still be necessary (and it can be very difficult to get someone to take his or her meds) and a host of other issues are at play as well.

And most of all... does someone WANT help?

Can't do a thing, if they don't.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I agree. Blaming the police is just wrong. We should be thanking them for the good job they did. As for the bad guy, why not blame him. He is the one that made the decision to kill innocent people. He could have stopped himself at any time. But no, he continued killing until he felt he was done. How is that the fault of the police?

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

Although I don't agree with the police being blamed, the police will always be blamed for incidents such as this. I think it's due to police being the first and last line of defense. Saddely, we do have crime in America, there for the criminals always give the media ammunition to blame the police. It was hard for me to get use to, but it will definitely not change. I figure anytime you sign up for job that has you recite an oath, it will not be easy and this is something you have to live with.

For the VA Tech students, familes and police, my thoughts and prayers go out to them... (II Timothy 2:3) I'm not a perfect example, but in todays time it helps me deal with this specific issue (cops being blamed).

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Just put this on a long list of things we are blamed for, dam this list is getting long!

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

As a officer who works in a institute of higher learning...we can only do so much. We don't make decisions on if a KNOWN mentally unstable student can continue to attend classes. We don't make the decision to allow him to continue classes or make him get long-term counseling. We are like any other police department in this area, if a student is to be a mental health consumer in need(suicidal, having a destructive episode where he's a danger to himself or others, bizarre behavior, etc) we as PEACE OFFICERS are mandated by law to enforce(in texas: emergency detention orders/mental health holds) on those subjects.


We take them to get treatment, but after they are released....unless they continue the behavior as I have described above, there is not a whole heck of a lot we can do. We have no decisions on their enrollment, that is a seperate department in most post-secondary educational campuses.


What am I saying? Blame the college for keeping the mental health consumers enrolled, not the police department. There is only so much we can do.  Why is the school not doing random dorm inspections for drugs/weapons?? They can sign away those rights as a conditon of living on campus/being enrolled.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Izzy says ...


I wouldn't call VA Tech a "dime a dozen murder" scene. It was a little more than that. However, I cannot fault the Police Dept. for what happened. The college played a huge part in what happened. For two years they knew this young man was unstable. For two years people expressed concern and nooone did anything about it. If blame is to be placed, then place it on every student, faculty member and administrator who chose to ignore ALL the warning signs of a sociopath. The police dept. was not privy to the day to day problems of this Cho character. Nor is it their job to babysit an errant acting student. This was truly a tragedy and I am sure every officer in that area feels bad, but to lay blame at their feet is irresponsible and unwarranted.

I believe he was referring to the initial murder scene, not to the actual horror that was to take place later that morning. VTPD were under the assumption that the first murders were an isolated incident until such information could prove them wrong. Sadly...that further information did.