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Posted about 7 years ago

 

Ive been on and off about this police career thing and keep coming back to wanting to become a LEO so the only thing that is bothering me is my past and Ive only have done mariquana a few times and have a DUI (which i know i have to get expunged) but Im nervous that If i go through some schooling and taking the exam and everything when I get to the Polygraph that when i admit to this stuff (cant lie cause thats guarateed termination) that all my work will be for nothing and I want this so bad I love helping people and everything I was just around the wrong people!!! I need some input from anybody in the field please!!! Thank you

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derrtyharry007: I am going to be quite frank with you; a DUI by the time you are 22 is a serious problem. Add marijuana use on top of it and I would question if you are mature enough to be a police officer or not. Unless you are an exception no one I repeat no one ever held a gun to your head and forced you to drink or smoke dope. A sure sign of maturity is accepting responsibility for your actions; not blaming the crowd you ran with. Many people drink responsibly; some of us have no business drinking at all because we are allergic to alcohol.

One good way to grow and to overcome your past transgressions (i.e. the DUI) is believe it or not, to join the military and gain experience and maturity. After 4 years of military service without any problems relating to drugs or alcohol you can demonstrate to an exam board that you have outgrown your youth. DUIs are serious business; I don't know of too many jurisdictions that wouldn't require a drivers license as a requirement of the job.

Being honest is very important; being trusted by your fellow officers to be there when you are needed is even more important.

Mature, become responsible, and then consider this career path; unfortunately alcohol abuse and alcoholism happens far too often in the law enforcement field; starting with a negative is not a good sign.

Good luck in your endeavors.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Good Luck harry...you have issues way deeper than what you are posting on here. I would say try looking at somehting LE related because you may not get hired on with your BG.

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Go with the military service, and see if you can take orders and get some life experiance. If your 22 yrs and still smokin', well, your a dumb ass, and if your worried about lying and the thought of lying is even in your head and your just scared of the consequiences of lying... well your a dumb ass, and I don't want you backing me up, or any of my partners.... Good luck in whatever else you do, just think this isn't for ya.

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I agree with others join the military (i suggest army) get maturity and you should be fine. I do backgrounds from time to time and see this (and worse) if your straight for four or five years you should be fine.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Not sure if he likes the Military option as he was told that in his other area where he asked this question. I know that is what I told him anyway.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Mickey D's are always hiring!

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Chris,
You aren’t starting off on good footing, but out my way they have hired people with minor drug use in their past. The DUI will be a real hurdle, and the two together are very hard to overcome. But I’d be very upfront about it and talk to the local agency recruiters and see what they say. They aren’t going to want to waste their time or yours, and will probably be very honest with you about your chances and what it would take to become eligible. Time will probably be most important factor: putting more time between that DUI and applying. The military might be the very best for you in the mean time. Give it some serious thought and talk to the recruiters.
Good luck.

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Rate This | Posted almost 8 years ago

 

Okay Chris here it is, first let me tell you that getting your record expunged does not mean that you do not have to tell what ever agency you apply at that you got arrested for DUI. If you have been told that getting it expunged means you don't have to advise it happened thats wrong....so save your money. I can tell you first hand from my experience as a recruiter and a polygraph examiner, that you must answer all questions completely truthfully or you will be disqualified. So with that said depending on how long ago you were arrested for DUI and how long ago you used illegal drugs will depend on if you get hired. If you have known that you wanted to 'help people' and be a cop for a long time why would you make those poor decisions? Are you mature enough to be a cop ? As far as you getting hired somewhere you better have and outstanding employment history with long standing jobs, a college degree and/or a very clean military record. So inother words you have some work to do.

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Chris all these folks, including me, are sharing with you first hand knowledge about our profession. None of us have or ever will take it lightly. Being in public safety means making a lot of sacrifices.......I mean a lot of sacrifices. You have to work for what you want.....life is no game....you have to decide what you want, set your goals, and rise to the occassion. Do you listen, follow instructions, can you take and follow orders........without hesitation. Have you, Can you, will you make the right choices. Doing the right thing is not hard......that's how people stay out of trouble and earn respect. If you intend to follow your heart into public safety you are following in the foot steps of over around 16,000 plus fallen officers. Their legacy, our legacy is a critical part of this Nation's and the World's history. Their is nothing worst than an offcer who degrades the Honor and Valor of the Badge.
Any officer will tell you that, as recruits, their butts were draging and the trainers built a nest in the recruits butts from the minute they entered the Academies till the last In-Service and Retraining School they attended. I know, I was a recruit and a trainer most of my career. You will miss holidays, birthdays, vacations, weekends, activities, funerals, etc. with you family and friends as an officers. You will work when your family is at home and you will be off and or be sleeping when they are working. It is the best thing I ever could have asked for and the biggist mess I ever lived in. I loved it, I still do, but my health broke.
You have to be straight up from the start. Any investigator/officer catches you in a lie, you are history, period, end of story. During the background investigation and the academy the spotlight is on you.....and to a point for the rest of your career in public safety. This is no damn practice, life is not a rehearsal, you get one chance and one chance only at life. You make the choices, good or bad, and you live with the results.......for the rest of you life. I wish you the best in life and in your decission.

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Rate This | Posted almost 8 years ago

 

Yeap this will be tough for ya fellow. go with the Military. they will teach to well, they will beat common sense into, if that is poss. with ya. and they will make you a man that knows right from wrong and how to make choices. so good luck to ya fellow.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Once you put on a Badge, the B.S stops. You are held to a higher level of personal conduct. Military will help you get your head on straight. Time lapse & good behavior is your friend. Good Luck...Keep one thing in mind.. L.E. is not for everyone.

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HEY BOSS I'VE BEEN WERE YOU ARE AT NOW MINUS THE DUI AND CONTINUOS USE OF DRUGS, I WAS 22 AND STILL LIVING AT HOME WITH MOMMY! NOT GOING ANYWHERE QUICK FAST AND IN A HURRY! UNTIL I JOINED MY BELOVED MARINE CORPS. I STRONGLY SUGGEST IF YOU NEED GUIDEANCE, DISCIPLINE, AND MATURITY, SERVE YOUR COUNTRY WITH HONOR AND IF YOU CAN'T STAY AWAY FROM THE NEGATIVES KEEP OUT OF MY CORPS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. IF YOU CAN STAY POSITIVE AND MOTIVATED TOWARDS THE RIGHT REASONS HEY THEN GOOD TO GO. GOOD LUCK BOSS.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Chris, if you're looking at a LEO job to get your life straight, then you're looking in the wrong place. I agree with everyone else here. Join the military and get some experience. I'm not going to say any one is better than the other (though getsome would definitely disagree), you'd have to make that choice on your own. As for the DUI and MJ use, thats a hurdle that not much else but military would overcome if you really want to be a LEO. I train LEO Explorers and a good number of them go to the military, some go straight to college or LEO job. I recommend you do some soul searching and come back to this once you've thoroughly thought it through.


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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I never met a Marine I didn't like or trust. Marines!!

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First of Gnat...you need to be writing speeches for the pres. I think my eyes started leaking. and also getsome is completely right. You want discipline, well the corps can make your cup runneth over with discipline. But DO NOT dare to f@*#k up my Marine Corps. Hopefully you are not wanting a LE job to straighten you out. You need to make sure you are straight before you get into it. This ain't no nintendo game, no pause, no save, no reset, and no extra lives. You either do it or don't, if you try you get you and more importantly your fellow officers DEAD. If you want to get some space between you and that DUI then go the military route. Honestly, if you want to get some LE experience along the way you should try the Coast Guard (getsome you have to agree that the Corps don't exactly teach you alot to do with LE). My former Chief of police was army airborn and then went into the coast guard and says that is what really prepared him for LE. Now, you want to join the brotherhood. Straighten your civi ass up and fly right. Go talk to your recruiter tomorrow and start being a man. Good luck son.


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NOT SURE OF THE CALIFORNIA V-CODE ON "SOLID" STREET LINES !?
IT IS SAID THAT A VEHICLE MAY 'NOT CROSS DOUBLE SOLID YELLOW' LINES...
TICKETS ARE GIVEN FOR DOING THIS CROSSING TO ENTER A GAS STATION, GROCERY STORE, ETC ... IS THIS RIGHT OR PROPER OR LEGAL ????
HELP?
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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

it also depends on your area, when I went to the academy, the person who finished second in class, got the director's award, AND got hired first had not only smoked pot, but had a DWI to boot. however, he also was a little older as well.

You need to ask the departments in which you plan to apply, just be honest with them and tell them the situation. this can hopefully give you the info you need to either go ahead and pursue, and not.

And again, it all comes down to how bad you really want to do it.... If you really, REALLY want to, then be like nike, just do it, period. if you departments there won't take you, move to somewhere that will. it just depends on how bad you want it. :)

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Go to a big city. They're taking people with 17B felonies (reduced to misdemeanors by the court). The FBI has just changed their rules. You can be hired if you smoked weed less than 15 times in your life. Thats a big move for those people.. You should be able to squeeze in among the mopes they're hiring to be police today. Keep trying if you really want the job.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Are you sorry you asked for others opinions yet? I love the straight forwardness of everyone and I have to agree with the people in LE being a police officer is not for you and or the community. Speaking as someone who works on behalf of LE and looks out for their well-being, ie. stress levels, training, psychological testing. You can't decide whether or not join, to be honest, to be dependable, shall I go on? From my education and research on the stress in policing ---you would be one more stress contributor to them. These guys are mature, professional, educated, most have military backgrounds,serious, trustworthy, RESPECTED!!, etc,
Am I saying they are perfect, NOPE. But they got their acts together at a young age and worked their tails off to get where they are now. So to all you police officers---thank you for what you do!!!!

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Military, period. If after at least 4 years of that you were able to become a viable member of your unit, then maybe you'll have jumped the hurdle nessesary to be in LE. Most of my closest partners have had some sort of skeleton in the closet, me include but 100% of us pulled a tour of duty serving our country first, me? 20 years, I'm now into my 16th year as a Law Enforcement Officer.

You say you want to help people? Go help the nation and when you come home, you'll be better prepared to interview.

Gods Speed Brothers and Sisters.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Dang....with the input he's getting from the "nice guys" on here it's a good thing ODIN hasn't read this one. I think I'll call him...we'll see what his feelings on the matter are.


"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men and liked it never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various other things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine after the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." Ernest Hemingway

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WHAT are you saying DD, im not a nice guy?
I think you probably know by now what i picked up on in his first post, so i did'nt bother to post my thoughts, but if you want me too i will.

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Based on the tag you gave yourself, you like the cop/spy thing, but this aint no movie. All you saw was the movies, but just like police work, if you want to know what it took, you gotta go behind the scenes. There was hours and hours of rehersals to get it right, some stunt people got hurt, they were away from the people they loved, etc.( I hope you are getting the analogy) and in all of that, there was no place for marijuana or drinking to excess. Not trying to say I'm perfect (nobody is), but if by 22, you've got these things in your life you've got a long road ahead, and you probably will have lots of interaction with police work, it just wont be favorable to you. Make your way to a little remote spot in SC where only a few dare to go, and hopefully from there you will start your path to what you want to do, minus your baggage.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Hey Bro, why you picking on SC? They don't need any more dopers there thank you very much. LOL!

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Lovely Parris Island!!!

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Definately go Marines. Our guys will straighten you out. Then, in 4 years, you'll still be young enough for a career in law enforcement.

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Your local police force wants to be proud of its members and it's critical that their reputation rests on the conduct of its officers. I agree that the military would provide a chance to remake your history and exhibit good decision making. Officers with troubled pasts can create a huge expense for their community and especially for the professional standing. Give yourself 3+ years to grow into the best you can be and then apply if that's the career that you choose.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I agree with the rest...you need to get it together before you think about applying for an LE career. Military would probably be your best route. Anyway most agencies around where I work would require you to have no OVI's for at least the past "FIVE YEARS"!

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ODIN said:

WHAT are you saying DD, im not a nice guy?
I think you probably know by now what i picked up on in his first post, so i did'nt bother to post my thoughts, but if you want me too i will.

ODIN, I'm not saying that your not a nice guy...you're great as long as you got folks shooting, and throwing grenades at you. LOL, I just enjoy the....um....HONESTY....yea that's it. I like the honesty that you bring to a conversation. Let er' rip big guy.


"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men and liked it never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various other things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine after the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." Ernest Hemingway

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