I have never purchased a gun before.  If you're familiar with Washington State gun laws, or gun laws in general, please let me know if this sounds legit.  Here's my story:

On August 23rd, I go to to Puyallup Police Department and turn in my application and fingerprints for my Concealed Pistol License.

On August 28th, I go to Bull's Eye Shooter Supply in Tacoma, WA and purchase a Springfield XD 9mm SubCompact.  Bi-tone (silver and black), 3" barrel, real nice!  I told the seller I had not received my CPL in the mail yet, and he said there's a 10 day waiting period.  Obviously, I knew this and I was totally fine with it.  I even have a receipt with a note from the seller.  It reads: "9/08/09 After 5 pm".  I get to pick it up this Tuesday, the 8th.  Cool, no big deal, right?

So yesterday, September 5th I find out via the Washington State Department of Licensing website that the state waiting period is 5 days!  I called the DOL and asked just to be sure and they said yes, the waiting period is only 5 days.

So I immediately call Bull's Eye shop and ask them about it.  They said it usually takes a while to get the background results back so they usually say 10 days.  It started to sound fishy....but whatever, I'm still content and in good spirits....until we were about to hang up....

The lady says, "Ok you can come in and pick the gun up on the 18th."  WHAAA??  "What? The 18th?" I asked her.  She replied, "Yes.  Weekends and holidays dont count towards that 10 days.  Monday is a holiday."

After our little phone chat I looked at my calendar, and even if that is true, if it only counts business days as the waiting period, that would land my 10th day on September 14th!!

So my question to you, is, does this sound legitimate?

Thanks for all your responses.

Thanks a lot for your input.  That's what I thought, too.  The shop is about 10 minutes from my house so I'm just going to drive down there on the 8th and show them my receipt.

No problem. Sorry about that.

MarcusForsyth says ...

So I contacted my local police department and they said it is usually done in 5 days but if the dealer has not heard back yet for the background check, they can put a hold on it for longer.  I drove down to the shop and they said it should be ready by September 10th.  We will see.

That sounds feasible! But if they continue to hold out and there is nothing on your part that should prevent you from owning a pistol, get your money back and go somewhere else!

Finally picked up my XD on the 10th. 

If you have a current and valid CPL in WA it don't even take 30-40 minutes.  The insta check as I like to call it takes less time than it does for the paperwork. 

MarcusForsyth says ...

I decided to make my own book safe for my XD last night.  Instead of keeping a gun under the mattress or in plain sight, I figured I could leave it in a book by my bed at night.  I've lined the "holding cell" (pun intended) with soft felt, which, around here you can by for around 0.97 for an 8x11 sheet or so, and it comes with a paste/sticker-type backing which allows for easy application.

I know I know, it's a recipe book.  And now it's by my bed.

That's pretty neat. I just keep one in the drawer next to my bed and one in my car.

NightEagle says ...

10 days sounds ok ... if a person needs a gun so soon there must be something wrong.  Why wouldnt someone wish to wait 10 days unless there was something up?

Like I said, I'm fine with 10 days.  I picked it up on the 10th, which was 13 days.  Still that's fine with me.  No problem at all.  The reason I was upset is because I was told I wouldnt be able to pick it up until the 18th, which would have been 21 days after the purchase.  Since we legally have to wait 5 days, I was a little worried they were going to try to pull a fast one on me.  Plus, I had found out afterwards that this was the shop which the DC snipers stole their weapon of choice from, and they got in trouble because they "had no record" of the gun.

The owner was then forced to give up ownership of the shop, but now it's owned by a female friend of his.

So anyways, I was becoming impatient because they told me I'd have to wait 21 days. 

Now that I have the gun in my possession, I filled out a "Personal Firearms Record" sheet and made a photo copy of the original receipt and keep all of those in a safe place just for good measure.

Is there a need to wait that long? Not unless your State is behind the times. In Georgia, as long as your background check is clean, you can have a gun in the same day. It doesn't matter how many you purchase either. But then again, not every state is as conservative as GA (which is why I love Georgia).

One could argue why even have a gun in the first place. Seeing as how a very huge percent of people with them will never have to use them to defend themselves, their family, or someone else. But that's not the point. The point is that you'll be prepared whenever, if ever the occassion arises.

Weenticle says ...

Is there a need to wait that long? Not unless your State is behind the times. In Georgia, as long as your background check is clean, you can have a gun in the same day. It doesn't matter how many you purchase either. But then again, not every state is as conservative as GA (which is why I love Georgia).

One could argue why even have a gun in the first place. Seeing as how a very huge percent of people with them will never have to use them to defend themselves, their family, or someone else. But that's not the point. The point is that you'll be prepared whenever, if ever the occassion arises.

As a PERSON  who has been held up at gunpoint, there is a need to have a gun.  If anything for your own self precervation.  As far as needing to purchace a gun on the quick, why?  When one has had there entire life to choose to defend themselves.  Usually one who needs a gun right away has another agenda.  It is human nature to act out in angre.  This is a great way to defend against such acts.  If you where to ask me, if you dont already own a gun, then why the urgency to purchase and have in your pocession one the same hour you pay for one.

Please forgive typoes, im sorry.  I still think PL should have spellcheck, hehe

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

Is there a need to wait that long? Not unless your State is behind the times. In Georgia, as long as your background check is clean, you can have a gun in the same day. It doesn't matter how many you purchase either. But then again, not every state is as conservative as GA (which is why I love Georgia).

One could argue why even have a gun in the first place. Seeing as how a very huge percent of people with them will never have to use them to defend themselves, their family, or someone else. But that's not the point. The point is that you'll be prepared whenever, if ever the occassion arises.

As a PERSON  who has been held up at gunpoint, there is a need to have a gun.  If anything for your own self precervation.  As far as needing to purchace a gun on the quick, why?  When one has had there entire life to choose to defend themselves.  Usually one who needs a gun right away has another agenda.  It is human nature to act out in angre.  This is a great way to defend against such acts.  If you where to ask me, if you dont already own a gun, then why the urgency to purchase and have in your pocession one the same hour you pay for one.

 

Please forgive typoes, im sorry.  I still think PL should have spellcheck, hehe

I've never said anything about getting a gun right away. I merely stated that having to wait that long is absurd. It just shows you the amount of effort politicians are putting forth to disarm the citizens of their state.

You ask me why would someone need to get a gun the same day they buy it? I'll ask you why do they need to wait?

Im appologise, i didnt mean to sound argumentative.  I was, I guess, just stating why I think the waiting times are ok in my humble opinion.  Please dont take any offence to my posts.  Sometimes reading them are no in way expressing the way I speak.  I hope I have not offended you in any way.  I actually feel for what you say.  I would be very upset at the company who tells you 5 days and it ends up being 21.... personally Id ask for a discount for the inconvenience.   I wish you lotsa luck in your future pruchases.  Like I had posted earlier, trade shows are the best way to go, but be sure to register you gun ... I lost a few to a robbery, but where recovered before anything was done with them, simply because I registered them.

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

Is there a need to wait that long? Not unless your State is behind the times. In Georgia, as long as your background check is clean, you can have a gun in the same day. It doesn't matter how many you purchase either. But then again, not every state is as conservative as GA (which is why I love Georgia).

One could argue why even have a gun in the first place. Seeing as how a very huge percent of people with them will never have to use them to defend themselves, their family, or someone else. But that's not the point. The point is that you'll be prepared whenever, if ever the occassion arises.

As a PERSON  who has been held up at gunpoint, there is a need to have a gun.  If anything for your own self precervation.  As far as needing to purchace a gun on the quick, why?  When one has had there entire life to choose to defend themselves.  Usually one who needs a gun right away has another agenda.  It is human nature to act out in angre.  This is a great way to defend against such acts.  If you where to ask me, if you dont already own a gun, then why the urgency to purchase and have in your pocession one the same hour you pay for one.

 

Please forgive typoes, im sorry.  I still think PL should have spellcheck, hehe

I've never said anything about getting a gun right away. I merely stated that having to wait that long is absurd. It just shows you the amount of effort politicians are putting forth to disarm the citizens of their state.

You ask me why would someone need to get a gun the same day they buy it? I'll ask you why do they need to wait?

Im appologise, i didnt mean to sound argumentative.  I was, I guess, just stating why I think the waiting times are ok in my humble opinion.  Please dont take any offence to my posts.  Sometimes reading them are no in way expressing the way I speak.  I hope I have not offended you in any way.  I actually feel for what you say.  I would be very upset at the company who tells you 5 days and it ends up being 21.... personally Id ask for a discount for the inconvenience.   I wish you lotsa luck in your future pruchases.  Like I had posted earlier, trade shows are the best way to go, but be sure to register you gun ... I lost a few to a robbery, but where recovered before anything was done with them, simply because I registered them.

No need to apologize. I am just a little befuddled at some states.

Thanks.  Me2!  If I where to travel a few hours a certain way I can buy certain guns that I couldnt in ohio.   I want to say Id like to see a universal law, but that would only mean more federal influence.   Its a ...whats the word?  catch 22 perhaps?

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

NightEagle says ...

Weenticle says ...

Is there a need to wait that long? Not unless your State is behind the times. In Georgia, as long as your background check is clean, you can have a gun in the same day. It doesn't matter how many you purchase either. But then again, not every state is as conservative as GA (which is why I love Georgia).

One could argue why even have a gun in the first place. Seeing as how a very huge percent of people with them will never have to use them to defend themselves, their family, or someone else. But that's not the point. The point is that you'll be prepared whenever, if ever the occassion arises.

As a PERSON  who has been held up at gunpoint, there is a need to have a gun.  If anything for your own self precervation.  As far as needing to purchace a gun on the quick, why?  When one has had there entire life to choose to defend themselves.  Usually one who needs a gun right away has another agenda.  It is human nature to act out in angre.  This is a great way to defend against such acts.  If you where to ask me, if you dont already own a gun, then why the urgency to purchase and have in your pocession one the same hour you pay for one.

 

Please forgive typoes, im sorry.  I still think PL should have spellcheck, hehe

I've never said anything about getting a gun right away. I merely stated that having to wait that long is absurd. It just shows you the amount of effort politicians are putting forth to disarm the citizens of their state.

You ask me why would someone need to get a gun the same day they buy it? I'll ask you why do they need to wait?

Im appologise, i didnt mean to sound argumentative.  I was, I guess, just stating why I think the waiting times are ok in my humble opinion.  Please dont take any offence to my posts.  Sometimes reading them are no in way expressing the way I speak.  I hope I have not offended you in any way.  I actually feel for what you say.  I would be very upset at the company who tells you 5 days and it ends up being 21.... personally Id ask for a discount for the inconvenience.   I wish you lotsa luck in your future pruchases.  Like I had posted earlier, trade shows are the best way to go, but be sure to register you gun ... I lost a few to a robbery, but where recovered before anything was done with them, simply because I registered them.

No need to apologize. I am just a little befuddled at some states.

Thanks.  Me2!  If I where to travel a few hours a certain way I can by certain guns that I couldnt in ohio.   I want to say Id like to see a universal law, but that would only mean more federal influence.   Its a ...whats the word?  catch 22 perhaps?

Well, then that would be taking away from individual States. Giving the States the ability to create their own laws is what makes this country what it is, but that hasn't stopped Congress from trying to force themselves into gun laws with the bs they call "interstate commerce".

I absolutley agree!  Its a tough thing to enact tho,  unless the very essence of the constitution is changed.  If we really drop back to the reason for the law, the british made firearms illegal, so there would be no uprising.  One of the reasons why the act is in the constituion.  But when we think of it in todays world, it is not really for the uprising of governments.  More for the preservation of self freedoms.  Heck, if you even think about it, and i know this i kind of a tangent, but the constitution says that all have the right, but in todays society felons are kept from having weopons, not that Im against this, just a thaught.   I kinda went out into space on that one....I guess what Im saying is where does it stop or start?  I can see the lefts and the rights opinion on this.  

Evil men do evil things ... Good men do good things.

Sorry, we kinda jacked your thread.

You take your gun out yet and shoot?

Weenticle says ...

Sorry, we kinda jacked your thread.

You take your gun out yet and shoot?

 

Haha no it's all good bro.

Yeah I wento to The Marksman range by my house a little and shot some Federal HP's.