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Goboat1_max50

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Posted about 7 years ago

 

I'd like to know how agencies experiencing drastic and severe budget cuts are handling their situation. Here in Michigan, we are facing a dismal economy, the worse that many of us ever recall. Troopers with the Michigan State Police are on strict mileage restrictions. Costs are rising, and the outlook for the future is so depressing, it's tough to make ends meet. How have budget cuts affected your agency? Is your situation so severe that Officer Safety / back-up is jeopardized?

Arms_crossed_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Hello sir,

I'm a cop in the Air Force and we too are always running into both budget and training issues. Additionally, our mission is constantly changing which also effects our man power. I am fortunate enough to work in Mississippi (originally from Michigan however) and have several options available to us. Historically, we've been utilizing outside sources to train personnel. Recently, it seems we are able to utilize our personnel and their experiences/certifications to train others within my organization. I'm a part time martial arts instructor and conduct semi-annual defensive tactics training. Additionally, I was advised by a tax advisor that taking a martial arts class is tax deductable. Small steps like this has helped my organization, increased officer safety and allowed us to work within the confines of a decreasing budget and less personnel. Our training has been modified as well. We utilize our K-9 units a lot more now then ever.

Take care sir.

v/r

Michael Munyon
www.munyondojang.com

Michael_pic_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I'm not a cop yet but when I do become one I'm going to the NYPD (New York Police Department) and right now the pay is not good. being that I'm going in for the love of the job and not the money i'll take it for now but later money will come in to play.

NYPD starts at around $2,500 in the Academy (6 months) then goes to 34 or something like that. To make it in NEW York on that pay is luck. but like I said It's the love of the job and on a nother note NYPD is the 2nd best to LAPD if not the 1st. Nobody else take what I said the wrong way but that is just how I feel.

Put the city you are a cop in on the map.

Bbqxena_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

We're about 35 officers short........that in itself is unsafe, but most agencies are short-handed....

Aa6e89f561d0434c9d5e491a4d740d38_1__max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Budget cuts & officer shortage is also affecting our department. The risks are very high. 12-25-06, I found myself in a physical altercation with two males, a mother (with a knife) and a girl-friend. That does not include the other (11) family members that had been drinking. My back-up arrived 13 minutes later...13 minutes may not seem to be very long, but alot happened real quick.

Fear_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I work in Florida, and since are every so smart ( a term I use loosely) heads of state have decided to pass "tax cuts" are agecys have had to make cuts. These cuts have costed use are DUI task force (all sworm deputies), cuts in are anti-terror group and some other speacial units have taken a hit. As with most agencies we work short handed on the road aswell, but that was before all this crap started to happen. Alot of it has to do with the cost of living.

And too gb2950, 13 minutes is a very long time.

Farva_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I also work in FL. I can't believe the State of FL would ever have to do this. I moved here from MI to get away from the budget cuts, not to mention you can't get a LEO job in that state. However, it is sad hearing units, like DUI, are being cut. Thank goodness our dept is one of the few that is full staff... For now (only having to make minor cuts). Goof luck to all of you and your depts making cuts.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

The problem right now most agencies are facing is that officers cannot have a decent standard of living on anything less than 50k, but their money is being scaled back due to increased tax cuts, so raises, bonuses, everything is being slashed while inflation continues. My family is going through a problem like this now (my father's company decided 5-6 years ago he makes too much and has not given him a raise since. His purchasing power has dropped over 40% due to inflation but his salary has not altered to compensate at all).

If they want cops they need to offer cash. But they can't offer cash because people don't want to pay for their own protection. Hypocrites. I bet the love you when they need you and complain about you paying their salary when they don't.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Choice options ZamielVanWeber
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The problem right now most agencies are facing is that officers cannot have a decent standard of living on anything less than 50k, but their money is being scaled back due to increased tax cuts,

Zamiel,

I disagree that the money is being scaled back because of tax cuts. It is being scaled back because politically it is better to fund social programs that don't work and cut cops. That way the politician looks like he cares and the taxpayer gets told "you want more cops? Ante up." Start cutting the crappy social programs that historically don't work and put that money into what a government is supposed to do, ensure the safety of it's population.

Hearts_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I speculate Neighborhood Watch and Concerned Citizen groups will become more valuable to law enforcement in the fight against crime as agencies continue making cuts and decrease road patrols.

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

Neighborhood Watch groups have always been important to our department. The problem is, if no one is inservice, it don't matter if we have a watch group on every corner.

063_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 7 years ago

 

gb2950: I think with that kind of back up response time, I would park on the corner and wait til my backup got there before going in. Soooooo much can happen in 13 minutes, which would feel like 13 hours in the heat of battle. Let them beat the hell out of each other. Newark, NJ PD has at times a 4 hour backlog on jobs. 13 minutes is nothing. Imagine going on a 4 hour old family dispute where the husband tuned up the wife? I wouldn't want to be knocking on that door. In the 80's, they had a rapid robbery squad that showed up an hour after after the incident! All due to short handed precints. One time a cab driver was robbed and hit in the head. A good citizen saw him laying across the front seat and called 911. It took 2 1/2 hours for the first patrol car to arrive. I asked the officer why that would happen, and he told me, "believe it or not, we are the only car in the west district on the midnight shift tonight". I told him, I don't envy you one bit! The funniest ones are when they give a car a burgular alarm at 0700, and tell the car don't waste alot of time with this, it has a little dust on it. The officer will ask the time the alarm came in and the dispatcher will respond 2300! There should never even be any consideration given to cutting the budget of police or fire departments. Stay safe everyone, continue protecting us, even at great risk from budget cuts. We need you!

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

The problem was, I thought I had two more units around the corner. We "HAD" a traffic unit in the area. The policy was, "Back-up patrol if needed". We are very short and they were whinning about backing up patrol. We have alot of people that like to sit on there ass. The traffic unit is now gone and I have a great group of men on my shift. Still a few problems left over from the traffic unit disaster, but for the most part better. When I punch the clock, its game-time.

Meangreen01_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Well, let's see...we are driving old, worn out vehicles, we are still in an outdated station that's too small (built for 120 agents and currently has 400), and my gun is already about 1000 rounds past its expiration point. On the other hand we're getting nifty new radar and camera tech....though I'd rather have a new ride.


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