LAPD is now issuing Glock .40's to the recruits. They are forced to stay with the Glock. What is approved depends upon what you were issued when you came on and what you have been trained with. We still have a few dinasours that refuse to give up their wheel guns but they are few and far between. The majority of officers now on were either issued Beretta 9MM's or purchased them. If they did not transition to the .45 they are stuck with the 9MM in either Beretta or Smith & Wesson. If they did go to the .45 they have the option of the 9MM or the .45 in Beretta or Smith & Wesson. The Transition to the Glock was started a little under 5 years ago when Chief Bratton came to us. He was able to get the Police Commision and the city counsel to buy off on approving the Glock. He was also able to get the approval for the .40 at the same time but only in the Glock. However, they are all privately purchased weapons. The city has never done a reissue of a firearm. If you were issue a .38 revolver, that is still your city issued gun. There has been talk about a department wide reissue to the Glock but I highly doubt that will happen. With 9500 officers on the department it is just cost prohibitive. I went to the Smith & Wesson .45 after the bank robbery in North Hollywood which was the catalyst for getting us .45's and AR15's. One other side note. We had trouble with the Glock in .45 caliber. For a time, those officers who purchased those weapons were precluded from carrying them. Glock sent represenatives down and made some modification to the firearms. If I remember right, it had something to do with light strikes on the primers. The problem has been fixed and those officers are now able to carry them again.

All training and ammo is provided for department training and bi-monthly qualifications (so long as it only takes you once to qualify. repeat attempts are on your dime.) Any practice that is done beyond that, which everyone really should do, is on you. We also have a bonus shoot for extra money and the ammo for that is also on you.

The North Hollywood shootout was one of those days of fate for me. I was assigned to Foothill Division, (a neighboring division) at that time and working day watch. I would have been there had I not been in training that day. I watched on TV as my fellow officers, the people I work with, took that punishment. It was not easy for me, I felt helpless that I could do nothing to help them. We started watching it about 35 minutes into it and it was over about the time we were getting ready to go down there.

I agree with GTS on this that it is hell watching your brothers go through something like that. I work in a jail and Ive bever had nothing that disastrous happen but its still hell for me to watch one of my guys go in and have to stand by and run the control tower, or when a call comes out on the radio we have set up to listen to our road officers and they go in on a bad situation. We all know what we do and how to do it and that were part of a team and that puts us all real close and most of us are good friends which is the way it ought to be. But to put my two cents in on either glock or sig I have never shot a sig but have shot a glock and wasnt too comfortable with it. I just didnt like the way it fit my hand other then that its a fine weapon, my uncles been using one almost his entire career as a backup due to we can only use what were issued and thats a H&K 40. which is my personal favorite. Ive been around firearms a long time and one thing Ive learned is that not all weapons ar one size fits all, and personally if I cant grip a gun comfortably then I cant shoot as good and I believe that goes w/ all people. If you can carry your own weapon then find something that fits you and dont worry about the cost, or how pretty it is or how many peoples got one I mean that weapon could be what lets you come home after your shift, and if you take car of your weapon and dont abuse it then you should have no problems to begin with.

I shot a cottonmouth with my Glock 22.Those SXT''s blew it in half. I felt i was good target practice to shoot a snake that was comming right for me.

Interesting, If I may add a word or three. I have carried a variety of hand guns. After 20 plus years and few practical applications in points I will not discuss on this forum; I must admit the SIG is a very good weapon. It's cost is an issue however, I found it very reliable and quite honestly have used the P226 40 cal to its full potiential on a few occassions in the past. Glock makes a good product but it seems to be a cookie cutter weapon, sans personality. None the less the operator is the key and which ever weapon you choose is only as good as the end user.

Thanks

i have shot both....i have 4 Glocks now. im just a lot more proficient with the Glock trigger than i am with the Sigs. not taking anything away from Sigs. they are definately nice handguns.

Just got my SigP220...beautiful.

The recoil of a .40 has always been a little snappy. The .45 recoil is more like a slow roll, and is much more controlable, IMHO.

I have to say my Glock I have the Glock 22 .40 cal. I have had it for 8 years and never had a malfunction. You cant beat the finish either. My vote GLOCK but I prefer my Kimber now days.

GTS197 said:

The recoil of a .40 has always been a little snappy. The .45 recoil is more like a slow roll, and is much more controlable, IMHO.

I said it like 20 times on this thread and ill say it again

GLOCK!

Glock!

the choice for the Tupperware Warrior!

looking for a glock 45 which is a good one to have

21c for me.

RobRodriguezSD said:

I've used both, and they are great in their own ways... but for some reason that first trigger pull on the sig is still annoying, and I question the hammer on the outside of the weapon that could become physically blocked or damaged in extreme situations.

What are your thoughts?