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LAPD is now issuing Glock .40's to the recruits. They are forced to stay with the Glock. What is approved depends upon what you were issued when you came on and what you have been trained with. We still have a few dinasours that refuse to give up their wheel guns but they are few and far between. The majority of officers now on were either issued Beretta 9MM's or purchased them. If they did not transition to the .45 they are stuck with the 9MM in either Beretta or Smith & Wesson. If they did go to the .45 they have the option of the 9MM or the .45 in Beretta or Smith & Wesson. The Transition to the Glock was started a little under 5 years ago when Chief Bratton came to us. He was able to get the Police Commision and the city counsel to buy off on approving the Glock. He was also able to get the approval for the .40 at the same time but only in the Glock. However, they are all privately purchased weapons. The city has never done a reissue of a firearm. If you were issue a .38 revolver, that is still your city issued gun. There has been talk about a department wide reissue to the Glock but I highly doubt that will happen. With 9500 officers on the department it is just cost prohibitive. I went to the Smith & Wesson .45 after the bank robbery in North Hollywood which was the catalyst for getting us .45's and AR15's. One other side note. We had trouble with the Glock in .45 caliber. For a time, those officers who purchased those weapons were precluded from carrying them. Glock sent represenatives down and made some modification to the firearms. If I remember right, it had something to do with light strikes on the primers. The problem has been fixed and those officers are now able to carry them again.

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Interesting, thanks for the info. Does your agency supply the training and duty ammo? I would think that since there hasn't been a city wide reissue of sidearms and so many officers carrying various calibers, that ammo costs would also be slightly cost prohibitive.

Were you involved in the North Hollywood incident?

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All training and ammo is provided for department training and bi-monthly qualifications (so long as it only takes you once to qualify. repeat attempts are on your dime.) Any practice that is done beyond that, which everyone really should do, is on you. We also have a bonus shoot for extra money and the ammo for that is also on you.

The North Hollywood shootout was one of those days of fate for me. I was assigned to Foothill Division, (a neighboring division) at that time and working day watch. I would have been there had I not been in training that day. I watched on TV as my fellow officers, the people I work with, took that punishment. It was not easy for me, I felt helpless that I could do nothing to help them. We started watching it about 35 minutes into it and it was over about the time we were getting ready to go down there.

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Glad to see that you guys don't absorb the entire cost of ammo consumption.

I can understand how you feel. It's difficult to standby and watch helplessly from the sideline as your brothers are put through hell. I know that you would have been in the mix if you could (like any officer who considers himself his brothers keeper). I have never met any of the officers involved in that incident, but I am proud of every one of them. It takes alot of guff to stand your ground in such a maelstrom and continue to fight, even when wounded. Every one of them is a hero in my book.

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I agree with GTS on this that it is hell watching your brothers go through something like that. I work in a jail and Ive bever had nothing that disastrous happen but its still hell for me to watch one of my guys go in and have to stand by and run the control tower, or when a call comes out on the radio we have set up to listen to our road officers and they go in on a bad situation. We all know what we do and how to do it and that were part of a team and that puts us all real close and most of us are good friends which is the way it ought to be. But to put my two cents in on either glock or sig I have never shot a sig but have shot a glock and wasnt too comfortable with it. I just didnt like the way it fit my hand other then that its a fine weapon, my uncles been using one almost his entire career as a backup due to we can only use what were issued and thats a H&K 40. which is my personal favorite. Ive been around firearms a long time and one thing Ive learned is that not all weapons ar one size fits all, and personally if I cant grip a gun comfortably then I cant shoot as good and I believe that goes w/ all people. If you can carry your own weapon then find something that fits you and dont worry about the cost, or how pretty it is or how many peoples got one I mean that weapon could be what lets you come home after your shift, and if you take car of your weapon and dont abuse it then you should have no problems to begin with.

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The Glock pistol is essentially a “flat revolver.” When you want to shoot it, pull the trigger. When you don’t want to shot it, DON’T PULL THE TRIGER. There is no traditional external safety device, just like with a revolver. It is easy to use, easy to clean and easy to maintain.

The SIG-Sauer pistols are excellent handguns across the board. Most models have a decoking lever that must be manipulated to make the weapon safe for re-holstering. They also have the traditional double-action-to-single-action-trigger-pull transition.

I think that the SIG-Sauer pistols are slightly more complicated to master, but both Glock and SIG-Sauer fire the same cartridges. There are a number of excellent duty, tactile and concealed holsters for all models from each manufacturer.

I don’t think that you can go wrong with either one.

But I still carry a Colt auto in .45ACP.

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I shot a cottonmouth with my Glock 22.Those SXT''s blew it in half. I felt i was good target practice to shoot a snake that was comming right for me.


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I'm with gruntdeputy, given my druthers I would rather carry my 1911 .45 ACP (or my USP .45 ACP) before all else. It's amazing to me that a design one hundred years old has never fallen out of favor with the shooting community, and in the past ten years has started showing up in more and more duty holsters.

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Interesting, If I may add a word or three. I have carried a variety of hand guns. After 20 plus years and few practical applications in points I will not discuss on this forum; I must admit the SIG is a very good weapon. It's cost is an issue however, I found it very reliable and quite honestly have used the P226 40 cal to its full potiential on a few occassions in the past. Glock makes a good product but it seems to be a cookie cutter weapon, sans personality. None the less the operator is the key and which ever weapon you choose is only as good as the end user.

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we have the sig p226 I love it. Never had any rust issues with it. I do clean mine at least once every week after shooting though. My rounds were on target when I had to use it. Glock 27 is my second weapon and I love that little thing also.

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i have shot both....i have 4 Glocks now. im just a lot more proficient with the Glock trigger than i am with the Sigs. not taking anything away from Sigs. they are definately nice handguns.

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I'm a Glockateir. I carry the bombastic plastic, there fore i'm one of the tupperware warriors. I love the feeling of Glockerizing stuff that gets in my way. and the look of a crook when he gets all Glock-eyed lookin down the barrel of my Austiran Death Machine.

just som random crap from the Glock dictionary...


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Just got my SigP220...beautiful.

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Just spent some time at the range with my p220...absolutely beautiful. Super comfortable. Since I'm going through the academy right now that'll be the first pistol that I qualify with, and so I was a little hesitant about the .45 (most of my class is going with either the p226 or the glock22), but after spending some time with it on the range I'm very happy with my choice.

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The recoil of a .40 has always been a little snappy. The .45 recoil is more like a slow roll, and is much more controlable, IMHO.

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GLOCK! You gotta love how they shoot and how simple they are!! Same trigger pull every time is awesome.

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I have to say my Glock I have the Glock 22 .40 cal. I have had it for 8 years and never had a malfunction. You cant beat the finish either. My vote GLOCK but I prefer my Kimber now days.


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I am an armor of both and also have A LOT of both in my collection. On the job I use a Sig 229 in 40. Any other time I have my fist Glock 17 purchased in 1990. In a light year of use it may only get 2 or 3 thousand rounds but the first few it was much more as it was my only handgun. I have never had a malfunction, even though I have had some parts break from wear it still kept going. And it shoots as well as any Sig I own. I would like to see Glock drop the finger grooves though. GLOCK FOREVER

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GTS197 said:

The recoil of a .40 has always been a little snappy. The .45 recoil is more like a slow roll, and is much more controlable, IMHO.

Your right, I've shot just about every brand of .45....favorite being the Sig, and they all seem to have less recoil than my Glock 22 .40, but I still like my combat tupperware the best....old faithful.

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On Duty, glocks because of the price and damage and wear and tear. Off Duty a sig because it cost so much. The .357 sig round is department issue here. The previous 2 agencies i worked at issued glock 22

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I said it like 20 times on this thread and ill say it again

GLOCK!


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SIG

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Glock!

the choice for the Tupperware Warrior!


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I'll take my Glock over a sig anyday!

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looking for a glock 45 which is a good one to have

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which glock 45

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21c for me.

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I like the 21 as far as shooting but it's a bit large and hard to hide for cc

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RobRodriguezSD said:

I've used both, and they are great in their own ways... but for some reason that first trigger pull on the sig is still annoying, and I question the hammer on the outside of the weapon that could become physically blocked or damaged in extreme situations.

What are your thoughts?

I agree with robrod, the first double action trigger pull of the Sig is annoying. I have fired .40 cal Glocks and Sigs, and by far prefer the Glock. I always seemed to pull the first Sig shot more than with the Glock. I've shot 250x35 with the Glock, so I will stick with that if I have a choice when I begin my career.

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come on guys! Glocks are made in the same country that produces the Governator!!! eooahahhooh get to da choppah!!

cant go wrong with that choice.


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