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Compassion, When does it become a Security risk.
Is it when a nurse states an inmate needs to be placed in a mental pod because he is having delussional thoughts and then 1 day latter she stated she wanted him there because he said he was going to kill detention officers, then when the inmate is moved to ADSEG unit she changes her statement and says she did not say it. Basically got it in a lie
Is it when a nurse tries to give a known violent offent with full blown aids a magizine, before a Deputy inspects the magazine, then when she is questioned about it she takes the magazine and leaves the facility. Mind u due to this incident the inmate in question actually was able to throw contaimnated feces on the questioning Deputy.
Is it when the nurse creates a nonauthorized behavior contract with an inmate to provide him extra meals if he behaves and then tries to pass it off as a medical need.
The nurse states she only has compassion for the inmates and that she is only trying to do good.
My question is? Is she really or has she actually become subject to being malnipulated by the inmates. My judgement is that she has and that she is a Security threat. I have personal caught her lying and have written her up 3 times, but for some reason she still is not fired. Can some one tell me what is wrong with this picture

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This is pretty much a problem in any correctional setting.  You have healthcare people calling inmate's "Patients" and disregarding any safety procedures.  I ran into a problem many years ago with a Psych.  Dr.  who was seeing inmates for sessions in a cell converted to an office.  Sat the inmate (cuffed with waist chains) in a chair in the office.  Dr. said he wanted to us to take the cuffs off.  told the Dr. the inmate had a history of staff assaults and he should think twice.  Dr. went into some rant about how he is the doctor and all.  No problem........  Off come the cuffs and waist chains.  I go outside the door waiting for the seesion to end when 5 minutes into it the session the doctor is screeming bloody murder for help.  Go in and find the inmate on top of the doctor beating the living crap out of him.  Needless to say the doctor was a changed man from that point on.  First thing these "Compassionate" people have to get through their heads is that these are convicted felons who will do or use anyone to get what they want.  They are experts of seeking out weak needy people and exploiting their weeknesses. 


In this case I would document, document, document every thing that I see going on.  I would go up my chain of command and if you have the means of an informational chrono, document your concerns.  It's funning how supervisors (And I am one), will take action once something is in writing.  No one wants to be hit with that "Vicarious" Liability rock. 

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Vipre says ...



This is pretty much a problem in any correctional setting.  You have healthcare people calling inmate's "Patients" and disregarding any safety procedures.  I ran into a problem many years ago with a Psych.  Dr.  who was seeing inmates for sessions in a cell converted to an office.  Sat the inmate (cuffed with waist chains) in a chair in the office.  Dr. said he wanted to us to take the cuffs off.  told the Dr. the inmate had a history of staff assaults and he should think twice.  Dr. went into some rant about how he is the doctor and all.  No problem........  Off come the cuffs and waist chains.  I go outside the door waiting for the seesion to end when 5 minutes into it the session the doctor is screeming bloody murder for help.  Go in and find the inmate on top of the doctor beating the living crap out of him.  Needless to say the doctor was a changed man from that point on.  First thing these "Compassionate" people have to get through their heads is that these are convicted felons who will do or use anyone to get what they want.  They are experts of seeking out weak needy people and exploiting their weeknesses. 


In this case I would document, document, document every thing that I see going on.  I would go up my chain of command and if you have the means of an informational chrono, document your concerns.  It's funning how supervisors (And I am one), will take action once something is in writing.  No one wants to be hit with that "Vicarious" Liability rock. 



Agreed. As you well know it's not just her ass in the ringer it's everyone that she comes into contact with.


I brought an extra can of whoop ass just in case!

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thad says ...


 Is she really or has she actually become subject to being malnipulated by the inmates. My judgement is that she has and that she is a Security threat. I have personal caught her lying and have written her up 3 times, but for some reason she still is not fired. Can some one tell me what is wrong with this picture

She has manipulated herself, actually. She has the diluted thought that they wont hurt her when, in actuality, the inmates wont necessarily bite the hands that feed them (at least not most of the time) but they will defiantly make it harder on everyone else that tries to stop the feeding. She sounds like she is only one step away from bringing in contraband or giving inmates "extra meds" that will defiantly get someone hurt or killed. I would watch your arse with this one...there is a fine line between compassion and being straight up naive. She's ignorant to the fact that these people would shank her for an extra blanket...maybe showing her their crimes would open her eyes a bit? Maybe a little "hey this guy has raped and killed women twice your size for the fun of it and you're giving him an extra pillow?" would open her eyes....but then again, maybe it will take her getting a shiv to the neck and her being used as an escape/rape attempt before she checks herself into reality.
I agree wholeheartedly with Vipre on this one. Document it and send it off...no answer? Send it higher...still no answer? Send it higher until you do. Get her on quotes...times....incidents...names and DOC#s...places....what did she bring? I'm actually doing the same thing with a Segregation supervisor I work with...he's flat out stated that he "doesn't like to do paperwork", therefore will go out of his way to give inmates extra things (blankets, food, phone calls) so that they don't "act out" and cause him grief.
What is the point of working in a SEG unit if I'm going to be a hotel maid?
You're not alone on this one Thad, just stick with your guns and stick with policy. If it's in the book, you can't be wrong, but SHE can be.
When it comes to stuff like this, I actually have a motto..."Inmates are gonna do, what inmates do." It's the staff that piss me off more than anything....their unprofessionalism and laziness has caused more problems than an escaped inmate could ever cause (and would probably occur because of the lazy, unprofessional staff members).


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