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In Arizona, if I am stopped by LE while in my pov and out of uniform, I am not supposed to identify myself as a correctional officer. However, one of my co-workers, while traveling out of state was stopped by LE and was told in that state, by law, he should have identified himself as a correctional officer. So I am wondering in what are the laws in different states.

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never heard of that.. do you know what law he was talking about?

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I never heard of a law that says you have to identify yourself.

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I don't know. I can't remember the state. He was driving back to Arizona from New Jersey and during the course of convesation the fact that he was a co came into the conversation. The officer told him that he should have advised him of that when he was frist stopped, said that state required it. I think it was, maybe, Texas or New Mexico, but not sure.

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i personally wanna know if i stopped another cop. I don't wanna end up writing another cop some BS ticket.

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Thanks for that tjb, though sometimes, we cos are considered the redheaded stepchildren of law enforcement. Here in Az, if I am stopped by the state police, 9 times outta 10 they will give me a ticket.

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I was thinking along those same lines. Perhaps the officer said something to the effect of "You should have told me you're a CO" or "You're supposed to tell me you're a CO", and the OP's friend mistakenly thought there was a state law to that effect.

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For what reason was your friend stopped, CO?

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speeding

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I don't agree with writing a CO a ticket. That is BS. We all wear a badge. I have had a CO back me up on a MV stop when I had a guy out of the car waiting for my backup. It was a good thing he got there too. I don't care who helps me out when I need it, CO or not.

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I should have said the CO was on his way home after workin a double shift, but he still took the time to make sure I was safe until my backup arrived.

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Someone once told me the reason the state police ticket us had to do with our department beating theirs in a softball tourmament. But I can't confirm that.
Buzz maybe right, maybe my friend misunderstood the officer that stopped him.

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We gotta be there for each other when we can. No matter what!

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I agree, as long as the CO, or any law enforcement officer, for that matter, is civil and understanding when they are stopped. I've stopped a couple of LEO's in their POVs without knowing who they were, and received a bad attitude in return right off the rip. One incident in particular stands out in my memory when I stopped a Sergeant from a neighboring agency as he sped through my jurisdiction going 25 over the posted limit. His first statement to me, as I approached the car, was "Is this any way to treat a sergeant, CORPORAL?" I was quick to remind him that he wasn't MY sergeant, and that he should slow down when passing through my municipality if he didn't want to deal with the hassle of being stopped.

Incidentally, I let the ol' sarge go with a warning, but he later approached a member of my family and told her that he was "going to get my ass". Real piece of work, that one.

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I completely agree with you Buzz. There is no reason to act like an asshole when you get pulled over. I never have acted like that and never will. I have also encountered cops during stops that expect me to know they are a cop before I even pull them over. Last time I checked I don't have ESP.

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Goes without saying, approach determines response. He needed to be put in his place.

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Oh come on tjb, didn't you notice the "Thin blue line" decal on their rear window? I mean, it's not like everyone and their mother has one of those nifty little stickers, right?

/sarcasm

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I would like to say I am surprised that a fellow LEO would behave this way but sadly I am not. One plus about being a co is I don't have to figure out who the bad guys are. They are all bad on my beat.

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I like knowing. It saves us a lot of trouble in the long run.

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Our General Orders state we need to announce our office before taking police action.

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I don't know of any law that says you HAVE to ID yourselves but if you are CCW common sense deems you ID yourself and inform you are carrying. As others have said, I have always wanted to know if I am stopping a LEO. I do not want you to stick your badge up in my face and like BuzzKill ran into, a smartass that thinks you are a jerk for even stopping them, but quietly letting the Officer know who you are and that you are armed and present him with ID is the proper way to do it.

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Texas does not require you to identify yourself as a PO or CO when stopped on a traffic stop. You ARE required to present any concealed handgun license or police ID if you are carrying your weapon with you.


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I know that there is a perception among some in LE that Corrections Officers are not LEO's. I also know there are some hiring standards in my state that allow some CO's with questionable histories to be employed within the correctional system. All that to say as long as I am dealing with a CO on a minor civil infraction, they get PC. If it is a criminal matter, they, like any other LEO are subject to the laws just like anyone else (in that I am speaking of Domestic Assault, etc).

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As far as identifying yourself, I won't know if you don't tell me. The FOP or Thin Blue Line sticker is no longer a good indication of LE status to me. I won't knowingly write a LEO, but "knowingly" is the key word.

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Strictly speaking, CO's are not LEO's. They are not involved in 911 responses and arrests and do not enforce the laws. The are custodial employees. That does exclude those that are sworn Deputies. They are still involved in keeping the bad guys safely behind bars and I have always treated them as relatives somewhat like Fire/EMSDispatchers etc.

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LCarvin hit it for Texas...nothing for me to add.

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I had an incident about a year ago where I had stopped on off duty Sergeant "CO" when I approached the vehicle I identified myself, advised the CO as to why I was stopping him(speeding) and asked for his DL, reg the whole nine yards. The only piece of ID the CO had provided was his Corrections ID, i instructed him that I needed to see his DL, he then "told" me that "No , this is all you need"......I advised hime that i had a state ID too....mine said police officer...needless to say not only the fact that attitude had alot to do with it but he did get a hardback, I might have been a prick to some of you out there, but i do believe in professional courtesy, as long i get it in return!

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>>Robocop33
Strictly speaking, CO’s are not LEO’s

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LEOs, COs, EMSTs, and firefighters (how come they don't get cool abbreviations?) tend all to fall under the tent of "civil service" in one form or another.

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I agree with LCarvin. You only have to identify yourself if you are armed. I am always armed, and I have to immediately identify myself as a police officer when stopped.

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