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I hear BS all the time because some idot gets pulled over and is given a ticket. They all claim that "They did nothing wrong and the 'po-po' is just writing tickets to match his quota and to be a jerk."


We ALL know the person stopped was wrong but are there really quotas????


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I worked for an agency that had "Performance Objectives" not quotas....

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No quotas... I can arrest as many people as I want


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"Performance Objectives" nice little twist lol.

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Retired on Duty as in... going on shift and not doing anything, just sitting there?

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Quotas are illegal and, as already stated, political suicide.   Retired on-duty is just that....going to work and not doing anything productive during the entire shift. Performance Objectives are designed to get these types out of their cars and interacting with the public, it does not necessarily mean writing tickets or making arrests, just getting out and doing the job they were hired to do.


"Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren't used to an environment where excellence is expected."
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We don't have quotas or goals etc. I can write as many as I want 0-100+ it don't matter, but two more and I win a new IPOD


You have the rest of your life to solve the problem, how long your life lasts depends on how well you do it. -Clint Smith

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The RoD is just stupid... if you want to drive around then go do it on your own time.


The PO seems to be an ecourangement(SP??) to just interact with people, and that makes total sense.


I didn't think quotas where really there, becuase if you think about it, doesn't it eleminate the whole purpose of being a police officer? I've always thought that being a police officer is more of a calling than just a job.


Sure it has it's benefits, you get to drive in a cool car, play with the siren, carry a gun, lol. but I bet you guys aren't putting your lives on the line just to pay the bills, it has to go MUCH deeper and to cut that off with a quota is stupid.

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Scurge says ...



We don't have quotas or goals etc. I can write as many as I want 0-100+ it don't matter, but two more and I win a new IPOD



HAHAHA

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"Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren't used to an environment where excellence is expected."
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Awww....that's too cute!

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I have never worked at or known of any agencies in my area that had ticket quotas.  Some agencies have preformance standards that require some sort of activitiy, but it does not involve any type of ticket quota.

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Do cops have quotas for speeding tickets?



http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/159284.asp


Q: I was pulled over and ticketed on Sept. 28, but the ticket was dismissed by a judge. Was the cop just desperately trying to fulfill a pull-over quota? Does such a quota exist for cops?


A: Not officially.


"Troopers of the Washington State Patrol do not have a quota or minimum number of traffic stops they are required to make in any given time," department spokesman Freddy Williams said. The patrol expects a full day's work for a full day's pay from each and every one of its employees.


"Supervisors look at the daily work sheet each, and every trooper is required to complete, to see how many physical assists or violator contacts were made. But there is no mandate or regulation requiring a specific minimum number of contacts per shift."


Seattle police echoed Williams' statements on traffic tickets: "We have no quotas," department spokesman Jeff Kappel said.



May depend on who you ask and where you live...



http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/05/quota-cops.html


People have suspected for many years that police officers do indeed have quotas for issuing traffic tickets. Cynics say that the practice is nothing more than a cash grab for local governments.


And now, the Montreal Police union is saying it's true: police in Montreal have a minimum amount of tickets to issue everyday.


In fact, the Montreal Police Brotherhood says officers were recently told by their superiors to start issuing 28 tickets a day -- up from their last daily quota of 18.


"There's only one priority for the city hall. That's giving tickets, bringing more revenue to the city hall instead of fighting criminality," Yves Francoeur, the police union president, told CTV Montreal.


The police department has raised its quota to make up for the more than $13.8 million in budget cuts from earlier this year, said the union.



But more than likely there is not...


... "Officialy"!


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We all know why coppers pull people over....


You get to speed and make the siren go "Wee-woo-wee-woo" on top of that you get to single handedly make a person late, that HAS to make you chuckle.


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mlar297 says ...



No quotas... I can arrest as many people as I want



Same here in NC...........................some State Agencies have what they refer to as "contact" reports.................ie - making so many contacts per day - week - month, but they don't have to be arrests or citations.


OR sooooooooooooooo I'm told (but you never REALLY know)


It is what it is.............and.........these things too shall pass.

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It a lot of states, If your nice to the Officer you may get a warnning not a ticket. Traffic stops are contacts on the report sheet. If you do not have a lot of past history and you are RESPECTFUL I would give you a warnning.


This question has been goin on for over 30 yrs now. and the answer has never changed.

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lol, The only officer I'm not respecful to is a very close friend and he knows I'm just screwing around.


I've only been pulled over once because I was with a friend and she and I where driving around the city at night new years eve to see things and an Officer saw us pass the same area twice and wanted to see if anything was up (To check if we had been drinking I suppose) and when I just explained and told the truth everything was fine.


Then when a trooper responded to my crash a year ago, she had nothing but nice things to say in court towards me.


Luckily I can read people very well after talking to them for a few minutes so this will work to my advantage if I become a trooper.

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The way my department works, is its up to the Squad Sgt or Cpl to evaluate each officer and see what his pros and cons are, then Performance Objectives are given from that.  Like myself, I am a traffic/narcotics officer.  My evaluation is about getting dope along with tickets, however at no point anywhere is there a place that tells me how many tickets I have to write, or any type of quota.

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mlar297 says ...



No quotas... I can arrest as many people as I want



exactly


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mlar297 says ...



No quotas... I can arrest as many people as I want



exactly



and write as many tickets as I want.

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If the public watched the same unit sitting in the same spot everyday doing nothing, I'm sure the Sgt would get a call. If they watched the same unit stopping 30 cars a day, I bet the Dept would get a call.... See folks it's a double edge sword. Officers have a job to do and it's not to harass law abiding citizens for nothing.

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In Texas, ticket quota's are illegal.  It's OK to set a minimum number of contacts, but you can't require tickets.  If I remember right many areas had ticket quotas until the 1970's.  Now a municipality will actually be punished by the state if more than a certain percentage (I believe 35%) of its total revenue is derived from traffic fines.


My department has "performance objectives" but it's geared towards DWI interventions, narcotics interdiction and fighting ROD (retired on duty).  They want us hunting crooks because, in their opinion, if you pop a doper you've popped a burglar.  The rest is driven by common sense.  If you write a ticket for not have a bicycle headlight at night you can expect a visit from the Sergeant or Captain.  If you write a warning for 35 over the limit you can also expect a visit from the Sergeant or Captain.


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CoreyWatson says ...



hbg522 says ...



mlar297 says ...



No quotas... I can arrest as many people as I want



exactly



and write as many tickets as I want.


 



The Town buys tickets by the case, we have a near endless supply. Press hard, five copies.

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HaHa You know its only the people who do something wrong that say yeah you gotta meet your QUOTA!!!!!!

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Quotas are illegal in some states and a liabilituy aspect if used, yes some departments have unwritted quotas called performance evaluations or objectives. RETLEO explained it very well.

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I remember reading about quotas in Ohio a while back, here is a link from local tv:


http://www.wlwt.com/health/5298686/detail.html


Never did hear what came of it, but I've moved around and have heard the same things the officers in this thread have expressed.  Seems to really vary by location.

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Quota or no quota if you go out and answer your calls and look for what ever looks suspicious and or dirty you will never be on the recieving end of not doing anything. When I was on patrol I would stop every car that looked dirty or had done something wrong. Did they all get arrested and or tickets no but I made more stops that lead to better arrest and or multiple citations. You have to like what you do and not worry about quotas do the job and you have no worries. Thats just my opinion some like to ride the day away but I get bored easy so i want to make something happen you start your shift at 0700 or 1900 and after the first call for service and or traffic stops next thing you know its 4 or 5 hours later and your out looking for the next thing to get into. Again my opinion and its worth what a few cents take it or leave it.


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Quota or no quota if you go out and answer your calls and look for what ever looks suspicious and or dirty you will never be on the recieving end of not doing anything. When I was on patrol I would stop every car that looked dirty or had done something wrong. Did they all get arrested and or tickets no but I made more stops that lead to better arrest and or multiple citations. You have to like what you do and not worry about quotas do the job and you have no worries. Thats just my opinion some like to ride the day away but I get bored easy so i want to make something happen you start your shift at 0700 or 1900 and after the first call for service and or traffic stops next thing you know its 4 or 5 hours later and your out looking for the next thing to get into. Again my opinion and its worth what a few cents take it or leave it.


The BULL 



I agree I work in a small village and I love it. Yeah a bigger dept would be more fun but THE BULL put it the best way. Proactive regardless of weather or how you feel will make the shift go by quick. I love to see how many good stops I can do in a shift sometimes its not alot but other days you're like damn will I have enough time to cite all of them and get my paperwork done before its time to leave? I love learning things too so thanks to guys like THE BULL vetern and retired officers are the best resource for info. Just stay busy and don't break your policies and procedures manual, no one can punish you for that.

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Quota or no quota if you go out and answer your calls and look for what ever looks suspicious and or dirty you will never be on the recieving end of not doing anything. When I was on patrol I would stop every car that looked dirty or had done something wrong. Did they all get arrested and or tickets no but I made more stops that lead to better arrest and or multiple citations. You have to like what you do and not worry about quotas do the job and you have no worries. Thats just my opinion some like to ride the day away but I get bored easy so i want to make something happen you start your shift at 0700 or 1900 and after the first call for service and or traffic stops next thing you know its 4 or 5 hours later and your out looking for the next thing to get into. Again my opinion and its worth what a few cents take it or leave it.


The BULL 


I would much rather stay busy then be ROJ..... 


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Our only quota is in the form of making contact with the public, be it giving a warning or just meeting people in our community. We are actually discouraged from giving tickets in most cases.

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