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So this past Thursday I went down for my Psychological, Background Investigation Interview and Polygraph for Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department.


The Psychological exam I just have to wait on the results to come back in but the Polygraph I am afraid may come back inconclusive as this is what the examiner explained to me.


He stated that on questions like Did I lie during this interview or Did I falsify any information on the application I was fine but on the Drug question I was a little sensitive and that my blood pressure he stated was a little sporadic.  I willfully admitted to experimentation as a teenager and gave a number I honestly felt I didn't exceed.  He said he will have another examiner review the results and then pass it along to the Investigator.


What do you think my chances are of actually having to retake a polygraph on this one?  I mean I didn't lie I was truthful and even came back okay on a question such as that.  I know now that I shouldn't have experimented and I was a dumb teenager.  I truly have dedicated a good amount of my life to becoming a civilian police officer.  I've graduated with Cum Laude honors with a Bachelors Degree in Criminal Justice as well as did 6 years and a 11 month extension in the United States Air Force as a Security Forces (military police) member.


I'm 29 years old and I am defiantly too old to try and restart all over again.


I know I have the job if I don't because I signed (after the background interview) a letter signed by the Recruitment Captain a offer for an extension of Probationary Employment based on Contingencies one being that I pass the Pysch and Poly.


Thanks to all who took the time to answer this and get back at me I truly appreciate it.


Dave


 


 

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Usually they will not ask you to retake the polygraph.  If you were deceptive on a question, they will stick with that polygraph.  I have never heard of an applicant retaking the polygraph for being deceptive.  He is having another examiner review t he poly results to see if he comes up with the same conclusion.  It will go to the chief to see if he wants to accept the results, or deny you for hire.


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So if that's the case so I just toss in the towel and figure another career path?


I wouldn't even know where to begin.

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Sounds like he wants a cold call from another operator, then to the chief or board to make the call. 


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I guess I'll just wait and see.


Problem is I'm in Ohio and right now and I don't have BLET so my choices are limited as far as departments I can apply to.


Thanks to all who answered,


Dave

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Shockusmc87,


If two operators disagree then the Chief might make the ultimate call.   


Each department should have their own S.O.P's and go from there. 


Smaller departments contract out the truth verification test and the operators just send thier report to the dept. that paid them.


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Best o' luck to you Dave!  I hope you hear positive news soon!

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Inconclusive does not equate to deceptive, you should be just fine.  The "Inconclusive" could be the result of several things, including poor or improper question formulation by the examiner.  he is doing the right thing by having the charts reviewed by a second examiner.  Don't go into "Panic Mode" on this thing, let it run it's course!


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An "inconclusive" result is an "inconclusive" result...it neither indicates 'No Deception Indicated" (NDI = truth) or "Deception Indicated" (DI = lie).


Your examiner should have had your results quality controlled by another certified examiner as part of the normal process, anyway...that's the proper way to do it.


Based on my experience, if there are any concerns about the inconclusive results, they will re-test you on those questions until NDI or DI can be definitively answered...


 


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Thanks once again to all who answer...


I truly do appreciate the feedback...


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Hey Dave


So, any news? what ended up happening?


 


 

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as in this situation, if you admit to doing drugs in the past and you dont lie is that a good thing that you told the truth even though its a bad thing to do drugs? 

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Inconclusive does not equate to deceptive, you should be just fine.  The "Inconclusive" could be the result of several things, including poor or improper question formulation by the examiner.  he is doing the right thing by having the charts reviewed by a second examiner.  Don't go into "Panic Mode" on this thing, let it run it's course!



 


This is very true...don't give up, let it play out.  AS someone already said many departments will retest you if they feel something isn't right.  Best of luck

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I was applying for the Broward Police Department in 2009  everything went smothe,took my exams passed it, finger printing pass it, turn in my paper work, had a interview of three officers went well, next was the polygraph.


I have never done drugs,experimented or being curious about it from a very young age I knew what I wanted to due. At the moment though I was going through a divorce because the idiot of my husband decided to get caught with drugs. Well one of my stipulations of me being with him he had to keep his nose clean and be a good law abiding citizen apperantly he couln't be one. What ever he gets caught and therefore I now have knowledge of someone involve with drugs. and that is the question that the person applying the test told me was inconclusive although he truly believed me I was not one to be involved with drugs. A couple of weeks later I get letter telling me they could not finish processing my package at this time. Is that their nice way saying no your not hire or once you get rid of the husband give us a call or what?

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When you do such a test, do you get to review the questions before the test and/or have a chance to explain the answers? Just seems like it would be weird if all you do is sit there and answer "yes" or "no".



i agree,,

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Prior to the Polygraph examination there is an in-depth pre-interview with the examiner, in addition all questions to be asked in the test are reviewed too.  There are no "Surprise" questions on the test.  The pre-interview addresses such issues as prior drug use, deviant sexual behavior, and other potentially criminal behavior.  You are allowed to give in-depth responses to the examiner during the pre-interview to explain any and all situations that are of concern to you.  It is only during the actual examination, when you are hoooked up to the polygraph that you are required to answer the questions with either a "Yes" or "No".


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Prior to the Polygraph examination there is an in-depth pre-interview with the examiner, in addition all questions to be asked in the test are reviewed too.  There are no "Surprise" questions on the test.  The pre-interview addresses such issues as prior drug use, deviant sexual behavior, and other potentially criminal behavior.  You are allowed to give in-depth responses to the examiner during the pre-interview to explain any and all situations that are of concern to you.  It is only during the actual examination, when you are hoooked up to the polygraph that you are required to answer the questions with either a "Yes" or "No".



as in this situation, if you admit to doing drugs in the past and you dont lie is that a good thing that you told the truth even though its a bad thing to do drugs? 

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Prior to the Polygraph examination there is an in-depth pre-interview with the examiner, in addition all questions to be asked in the test are reviewed too.  There are no "Surprise" questions on the test.  The pre-interview addresses such issues as prior drug use, deviant sexual behavior, and other potentially criminal behavior.  You are allowed to give in-depth responses to the examiner during the pre-interview to explain any and all situations that are of concern to you.  It is only during the actual examination, when you are hoooked up to the polygraph that you are required to answer the questions with either a "Yes" or "No".



as in this situation, if you admit to doing drugs in the past and you dont lie is that a good thing that you told the truth even though its a bad thing to do drugs? 



Did u seriously just ask that question???....Telling the truth is always the best opition.


The entire point of the polygraph is to see if ur tellin the truth.......the skeltons in ur background will be reviewed by a background investigator and then will be looked at by the brass and they will decide if u get DQ'd or not.


You just insinuiated that lying may be an option for u........not good



NO i understand that the polygraph is for honesty, i was just wondering how does the system go if you admit to doing bad things in the past.  and i havent participated in any drug or alocohlic activity and im 17 so that question wouldnt be difficult to answer if i took the plolygraph right now.  but thank you for the information.

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dejoe,


If you answered in the affirmative to drug use (excessive alcohol use, criminal acts, etc) in the pre-interview you would be given the chance to explain the circumstances to the examiner.  In some cases an admission to such activity would be an automatic disqualifier for getting hired.  In the instance where your explanation was acceptable and did not constitute an automatic DQ you would continue on and take the polygraph examiination.  The questions on tthe test regarding drug use, etc, would be modified to take your explanation into consideration, for example........."Other than what you have already told me about, have you used any illegal drugs in the past 10 years?" (example only, not meant to be an actual test question since each department has different criteria regarding prior drug use).  I hope that this clarifies things a bit for you!


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This might be pertinent or might not. At any rate it's kind of interesting-


http://www.polygraph.cc/assets/video/media_clips/DougWilliams_60minutes.wmv


 


 


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Polygraphs are the biggest flaw in the hiring process. I have passed two, failed one and been inconclusive on two. Where is the reliabilty. But bottom line is I still am in LE. Hang in there. You will pass it sooner or later

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This might be pertinent or might not. At any rate it's kind of interesting-


http://www.polygraph.cc/assets/video/media_clips/DougWilliams_60minutes.wmv


 


After watching this, I can't believe polygraphs can still be used the way they are, this is nuts. I took mine yesterday and I don't feel like I did so good b/c although I told the truth, I had to answer to thingsabout my past (16 years ago) that made me feel uncomfortable and nervous.  If I don't get hired with the department b/c of a stupid polygraph, I am going to be ticked, real ticked!


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Yeah, I would definitely go to the Liberal Leftwing Nutjobs at CBS and 60 minutes as my definitive authority on the use of the Polygraph, they have no agenda and they couldn't possibly put their own political spin on any report that they generate huh?  Gimme a break.  Being nervous and uncomfortable does not affect the polyraph results, attempting to be deceptive in response to the questions does.  If you told the truth you will be fine.


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 Any updates to some of the posts above?  


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Took the polygraph for the FHP in April Pass it with no problems waiting on the next test day to take the Psychological or hopefully to get hire. I guess  just because one dosen't hire you another  department  will or wont i guess. Well my life is less difficult now maybe that helped too.

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Are there any departments anymore who do not use the polygraph?

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The entire state of New Jersey does not use polygraph for pre-employment testing, although it is used in criminal investigations.


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I've never applied for them but I have a couple friends who work for the Chicago PD and I heard they don't administer a polygraph. Correct me if I'm wrong.They also had the bright idea to eliminate the written tests but, luckily that idea was shot down.

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Hey Dave


So, any news? what ended up happening?


 


I actually just decided to pursue other options.  I am actually going through a hiring process for Suffolk Fire Department now and have a Contegent Job Offer with TSA.  I might try to get on board with Law Enforcement again but after that 8 month process to get held up cause of an inconclusive test I kinda got burnt out by the process.


 


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I also believe in Mass they don't use Polygraph test.

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