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Posted about 7 years ago

 

I personally own a glock 23 and am looking at buying another Glock....However i get hounded quite often by friends anf family that tell me i shouldnt buy toy guns...I was just wondering what some officers or Glock owners thought i know several officers carry then in the line of duty and off duty! Thanks! I have owned mine for less than a year so I dont know about the longevity of the gun or how much ware and tear it can take?

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have had 4 different types of pistols used for service between military and LEO. Ruger, Colt 1911, Baretta, and Glock. In my opinion,for a duty weapon, there is Glock and then theres everything else. I hear good things about the Sigs and have fired one once. I didnt see where it was any better than Glock. If anyone on this thread has used both I would be interested in your opinion.

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i was lucky enough to play with many different pistols when they were first being thought of as a standered side arm, i said i would never own a toy gun like glock it is the uglyest gun i have seen. as for a good all round sidearm we did every thing we could do to trash the weapon because we wanted the sig, the glock held up just as well through are test, the only differance we could tell was in trigger pull only. they both held up in the tast test, and i own both in 45 cal.my g21c has had many rounds put through it. but i still carry the colt 1911 when i can.

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Thanks for the responses helps to hear from LEO's...If anyone knows guns it would be a LEO!

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I own 3 of them two 22's and a 27 I know why two of one to good a deal to pass up. I have shot a number of different pistols,Beretta,Sig a few S&W. Cannot say I have ever found a better shooting pistol than my Glocks and very reliable only malfunctions I have ever had were operator error. So there is my two cents.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Glocks...you either love them or you hate them. Personally I'm a fan, but there are a few other handguns on the market that I would go with before a Glock. I have owned several and never had any of them hiccup. Quite simply, they work. They are ugly, but user friendly and are the appitimy of K.I.S.S.

I have yet to hear of a Glock being "shot out". If you have some time, Google "Chuck Taylor". Several years ago he began a torture test on a G17. Last time I checks, he was well over 100,000 rds without a failure. Don't know if this test is still going on, and if not, how long the gun ran.

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As long as you keep up with the maintnence of a firearm, and you regulary clean them and oil them properly everything should be ok. Any gun can jam, for many different reasons.

I've shot both sigs and glocks, and i've never had any problems with either

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

We had a guy in my dept. who got a squib load (a round that didn't have a full charge or didn't make it out of the barrel) while qualifying, and shot another round behind it. It pushed the squib load out of the barrel and bulged the barrel, that was it. Months before a guy with a Baretta had the same misfortune and it blow the gun apart. The Sgt. in Training kept both to show what could happen and that it pays to have a good weapon. The Glock owner just replaced the barrel and was back in business.

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heres my two cents and dont be offended.......

First off, I have shot many pistols myself. Everything from Ruger, Colt, Springfield Armory, Sigs, Beretta, Taurus, and lastly Glocks. I will start with all the others first. I have a problem with all the others besides the Ruger. I like the Ruger because its user friendly for me and not bulky and heavy like some of the others I've listed. At the moment, I am carrying the Taurus PT92 because I am having holster "issues" with my Ruger. Not putting down all the mentioned guns but I just dont think they are meant as duty weapons.
The .1911 is by far one of the best out there because of its proven history and that history goes back alooong ways. Its not my preference as a duty weapon but its a very good one. Now about the Glock. I was at the gun store here right around the corner from where I live. I know the owner really well as he and my father are real good freinds and have been for many years. I was in there awhile back and this guy and his young son, am guessing 19/20 years of age, started bashing the Glocks really bad.
The son said he didnt like it because it "sucked on the range". Well I bluntly told him "maybe you were'nt shooting it right". He went on to say it wasnt accurate at all and that it handled terribly. He went on to say other "terribly bad" things about the Glock and what I told him is what I am going to say here.

The Glock wasnt designed to be a "shooting range" pistol. The Glock was designed for the LE or Military person in mind. Look at its features more closely and you'll understand why. Theres no hammer to cock per say or decock. The Glock was designed to draw and shoot....simple as that. If you look at some statistics, alot of LEO out there have been either killed or seriously injured in the line of duty because they forgot that their weapon had a decoking safety device which wasnt disengaged...until it was too late. Sorry to say, but in a gun battle, you dont have time to draw your weapon and tell the bad guy to hold on a sec while you take the safety off.
Thats why nearly almost 70% of the law enforcement agencies throughtout the world use the Glocks. Those numbers are great here in the US.

But again, look at the scenarios, most officers now that are in a deadly force confrontation, live to tell about it because of the simple fact....that the Glock was made specifically as a duty weapon where the officer had no worries and knew that if he drew a Glock...all he/she had to do was draw and shoot. No safeties to disengage or engage, no hammer to drop back down from a decocking devise.
I'm not bashing the other guns mentioned, I just dont think they make good service weapons. I have a Glock and I cant use it at work because we cant carry the .45 GAP rounds yet. But I shoot it alot and am working on getting a G22. The Glock simple is the best one of choice as a duty weapon. I cant express enough of how important it is to get the first shot off in a deadly force incident. Time is of the essence and theres no time to draw and undo the safety. I know you might say.."carry it with the safety off". Thats fine and dandy, you can do that. I just dont like the trigger pull of most weapons. The Glocks trigger pull is so smooth at 6lbs (correct me if I'm wrong) and a good Glock owner should be able to get the first shot off if he/she is familliar with the weapon.
Again, this is all on my experience. I am not claiming to be a Glock expert as I am not. Just giving the facts true and simple.
Be safe out there everyone.....

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I like Glocks. My only problem is safety. When they first came out we had several officers shot with their own weapon. No manual safety. "If you put your finger inside the trigger guard, anticipate it going off". Some holsters have a retention strap that goes over the end of the slide.. I have seen the strap enter the trigger guard and brush the trigger as the weapon is being put back in the holster.. We had a few Safari level 2 holsters that allowed the seatbelt on the Crown Vic to depress the magazine release. The officers would exit the patrol car and the magazine would fall out of their weapon. I have not seen the problems with other level 2 & 3 holsters. The glock is a dependable firearm. DO NOT LET ANY ONE TELL YOU TO USE A 2.5 LB. TRIGGER BAR IN YOUR WEAPON, ON THE ROAD OR FOR HOME SAFETY. IT’S FOR COMPETION ONLY. The sub compacts (40 CAL.)were having problems with the receivers. The unique recoil springs were eating up the top of the receivers in front of the locking block. Not sure if they were able to locate the problem.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I disagree with GB2950 about the glock not having a manual safety. To quote my Lt. "We are all big boys and big girls that carry guns for a living, so keep your f***ing finger off the trigger until you are good and ready to fire."

I love my glock. I carry a model 22 on the road and a 27 off duty. I have never had a malfunction with either gun.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I like glock. I have encountered officers changing the 5 lb trigger bar to a lighter 2.5 trigger bar commonly found on the G-24. I carry my G-22 on duty and my G-23 off. I hope no one use the 2.5 bar on duty. Yep, tjb307 is right, "If you pull it, it will go boom".

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

As a Constable, I carry the Sig 229 in 40 cal. We wont even go there with the cap gun that the government requires our company to carry on my security job. I have several friends that own glocks. I have had a chance to fire a variety of them. I personally like them both. My manager for the government contract is also a retired leo. She owns a glock and believes that glocks are good for starters, as long as they have had safety training.
Tjb ... AMEN! The primary safety is the operator. I was always taught, from a youngin ... It is not the guns fault ... it is the operators!

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

amen to that.....

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Thanks everyone i was begining to second guess my gun choice listening to everyone tell me it was nothing more than a toy gun...Although i have had just as much trouble with people telling me i shouldnt even own and carry a gun because im a girl!!!!......I appreciate all the comments and honesty!

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

Jenn, we carry a Sig P220 .45 cal. I'm not completely sold on this gun, just because it is quite large and doesn't fit my hand very well. (I almost feel like I'm shooting a cannon) My only advice to you is find one that you are comfortable with. I'm personaly much more comfortable with a 9 mm than a 45 just because of the size. And they say size doesn't matter! Ha!

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I agree with you on the size does matter comment haha! Thats why i like my 45 :)

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I agree with Onefineofficer, it was designed for L.E. and military type situations and functions well in those capacities. And if you use proper reholstering technics, your finger would be along side of the trigger guard and not in it until the weapon is in the holster. That prevents the backstrap from getting in the trigger guard also. You made a good choice Jenn. As long as it works for you, don't worry about what everyone says.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

That last line from watercop is the clincher: its all good as long as it works for you! When your butt is on the line, all the positive feedback and technical praise won't mean squat if you're not comfortable with your weapon. I've fired Sigs, Berretas, Glocks, Rugers, even Graz Buryas, but the weapon that feels best for me is the 1911. I've got big hands but shorter fingers, and nothing else feels like it belongs there like the Colt. And with a grip-safety I'm assured a smooth draw-&-fire without worrying about the other safety catch. The Glock is an excellent, durable weapon and it will be around for a long time...but it's not the optimal weapon for everyone.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I like Glocks, and own two of them. I have carried them on duty as well as off. Currently I carry a HK P2000 40cal and I really like it too.
For all the people who just regurgitate what they hear over the counter at thier local gun ranges by wannabes, I have a simple solution for the no safety on a glock issue....

KEEP YOUR BOOGER HOOKS OFF OF THE BANG SWITCH....

There, everybody should figure that one out pretty simple. The weapons for almost all of us in le are never going to be shot with intent at a person during our career. Pullng it and bringing it into the situation is not the same as pulling the trigger in a deadly situation encounter. Those of us that understand the concept of training like you fight and vice versa realize that it makes sense to have a weapon your proficient and tactfully good with. By good, I mean deadly.

I generally never get into the what gun type debates or issues, because it is trivial. The main thing is to be able to fall back on the tools on your belt as a means to end a situation quickly and safest to you.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have been carrying a Glock 23 on duty for 4 years and a Glock 27 off-duty and as a secondary "back-up" weapon. I have had my Glock for 5 years and I have never had a malfunction. When we qualify (every time) someones gun always malfunctions, but it is NEVER a GLOCK!!!!!


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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have the 2.5 lb trigger on my glock 22. It is much better than the 5 lb. I found that my groupings got tighter. I don't think having the lighter trigger is a safety issue. As long as you still follow the firearms rules, you should have no problem.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

This is kinda off topic, but has any one ever shot the glock 18, fully auto (i think its the 18) and if so is it a smooth shot and what does it feel like.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

FYI Officer safety: Just read a report that a dept. in SC had a failure with one of its Glock 32, .357 SIG. An officer experienced a weapon malfunction and difficulty dropping the mag. The receiver was completely cracked through, from the locking block pin hole up to the top of the receiver, on the inside of the receiver the locking blocking pin was sheared and the internal part of the receiver was bent. NFI.

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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I agree with bvpd1813 and all those who agree. I love my Ruger double stack P-series, all three of them. My 2 p-95 9 mm are the most accurate but my P-94 .40 is my fav. There are a lot of fine guns out there, all with good specs and bad glitches but for the most part, all on par with each other. But, it don't mean squat that a gun can handle 2000 rnds between oil changes if you aren't comfortable with it to hit what you shoot at. Your gun has to be an extension of your hand. If it doesn't fit or feel right, it won't work. This is why I abhore dept issue policies. Force someone to depend on a gun they can't use. Fire them all, practice, and then choose the one that is right for you, no matter what the make. Beware of the cheaper knock offs though. Specs do account for something.


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Rate This | Posted about 7 years ago

 

I have carried a glock 23 off duty for the last 7 years. I've owned the gun for 9 years no jams, no malfunctions. I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds through that thing and it won't die. I have even shot it dirty from the day before (I know keep it clean!!) and it performed flawlessly. As far as the "no safety" issue well I'll leave that to CBPK9 who said its best.

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I have been carrying a glock for over 8 years as an officer. I started w/ a .40and moved up to a .45 (size does matter). Glocks are fantastic duty firearms, but carry what you are comfortable with. As for not having a safety, glocks have 3. And remember, as said earlier, keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire!


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