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Ambulance_max50

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Posted over 7 years ago

 

Just curious about what everyone in law enforcement thinks about CLICK IT OR TICKET! In my experience as an EMT and Firefighter it's a great thing to see everyone having to wear a seat belt been many of times on scene i realized thats what saved their lives. But shouldn't it be our own decision rather or not to wear a seat belt? I don't know just something I have always wondered about.

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I really do think that if people want to risk their lives it should be their choice. ON the other hand I believe it does help as far as parents realizing that their children have to wear seat belts when they leave the house in fear of getting pulled over. I on the other hand wear one no matter what just because of things i see on a daily basis.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

like you said ,when you do the job we do on a daily basis we see the dangers . we see the things that some may never see . public announcements are'nt enough . you know how the t.v. is bombarded with them around the holidays and during summer months and for teenagers during prom season . click it or ticket is an aggressive tactic that i think is much needed , and if it makes a person think of 1/10th of the dangers of being involved in an accident without a seatbelt , not only to themselves , but their family as well , then i am all for it .


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1z6tp9w_max50

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I see it like this people dont do it caues, they havent see dead body on the road and have to see how real death is or have to clean it up. also, if we dont tell them they won't do it they dont care. but as for me I am for CLICK IT OR TICKET!

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

It is your decision whether you wear one or not...

Th_plugman1_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

You're right GTS197 it is everyone's decision to wear or not to wear, until I pull you over and give you a ticket. I give no second chances on seatbelts when it comes to children. On adults, it depends on if there are children in the vehicle. If the children are seatbelted and the adult is not what kind of example are you setting.

3734983337_1__max50

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a none of your business example.. i noticed the government likes to tell every one whats safe.. i have seen many wrecks where seat belts kept people from exiting the vehicle they were in.. i give breaks to adults not wearing belts. as for kids it is different. reagular belts dont seem to have a death grip on them they can wiggle out if needs be.. i dont believe in the helmet law either.. and there is no seatbelt on my motorcycle, but my son loves to ride.

Ambulance_max50

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I believe in the click it or ticket like i said but JUST CURIOUS whats next ???

Taz_max50

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I have seen way to many folks dead after being thrown out of the vehicle,that would most likely have walked away with minor injuries if they were wearing thier belt. Just wish we had a primary seatbelt law in MO.

Deadman_pirate_flag_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

I don't wear one in my department issued vehicle, and I don't write seatbelt tickets for adults. As others have stated, children are a different matter.

1979_max50

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I have no problem with the law. Now my Libertarian side says it is my business if I want to wear one or not, until the insurance co can refuse to pay for anyone who is injured by not wearing one, then buckle up as I don't feel like paying for your injuries. Same for helmets. Wear the dang thing! You do not have to be going fast to sustain serious head injuries and you have no right to expect others to pay for your stupidity of not wearing a helmet and you are now a window-licker because your tiny brains got scrambled.

Lec_pics_006_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

"I don’t wear one in my department issued vehicle" I am actually kinda suprised that your departments policy doesn't enforce this on you, if we don't wear our seat bealts and get in any kind of accident it pretty much ends in a Dear Chief letter.

Deadman_pirate_flag_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

Georgia law contains exemptions for patrol vehicles for a reason. None of the three departments I've worked for have had a seatbelt policy.

Fleu_dis_lis_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

Our dept. has a seatbelt policy, and of course we all follow policy. Most of us wear them when on the intersate or in a pursuit, but not when on routine patrol at low speeds. We all shuck them about a 1/2 mile before we get to a call just in case. They teach us how to draw and shoot from inside the vehicle, but no one mentions removing your sealtbelt first to get access to your weapon.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

My dept. has a seatbelt policy. Watercop makes a good point about training to take the seatbelt off and then draw your gun or train on how to draw around the seatbelt. I'll have to bring this up at our training day this month.

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

The number of people saved by seatbelts no doubt exceeds the number killed by them. The CLICK IT or TICKET law at least forces parents to be responsible for their own children.

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I think that the government does have the right to tell us to wear seatbelts. People who become injured and cannot pay their hospital bills pass the costs back on the rest of us. The hospitals raise rates, the government(s) raises taxes and WE are paying for the result of their carelessness. If you don’t want to wear a seatbelt, don’t. But first sign a Durable Power of Attorney, state that you do not wish to be place on a respirator or for any heroic attempts to save your life, AND that you do not want any tax money spent on your care; that it should all come from your estate or your family will pay it for you. All of it. Even the overtime for the officers who had to clean up your mess.

Dsc_0014_normal_1__max50

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Others have made the claim that officers should not have to wear seatbelts because they may need to exit their vehicles quickly or take some evasive action. My response is that I can get out of my seatbelted position just as quickly as I could get out of the seat if I was unseatbelted. It is a matter of practice. If you don't wear your seatbelt, you won't practice how to get out of one in an emergency. I have yet to get tangled up in a seatbelt while trying to exit quickly. I have been involved in a crash that probably would have seriously injured me if I had not been belted. I also will unbelt prior to arrival, depending on the call.

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Hey, I just joined this website cause I'm really looking into joining the police academy next year. I am in utah by the way.. an i have had a few alcohol tickets from before i was 18 an a dui on my 19 birthday. Is that gonna stop me from being able to join the force??

3734983337_1__max50

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the mormons are pretty hard nosed about such things.

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Ya.. they are kinda dicks about alot of things.. when they're the ones that are supposed to be so understanding, they block out alot of people. But since a DUI isnt a felony i should be alright if i dont get anything else like that before im 21 right?

3734983337_1__max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

dont know ...it depends on where your at,and if the department you try has a policy about it, call around to see what there requirments are.

Kirlian-fingerprints_max50

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Hey DUS, I’m from Utah and can tell you that you should be okay just be prepared to answer the questions honestly. Also how long ago was it? You know you have to be 21 years old by the time you graduate the academy right...? What academy are you going through if you don’t mind me asking? Also I can send you a ton of info; if you want PM me and Ill give you my email addy. Most of the stuff I have is for SLC but I’m sure its a heads up for you....Plus SLC has a higher stander for getting on which would be wise of you to fallow, then you will have a better chance…


“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”
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Kirlian-fingerprints_max50

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Oh and it has to be at least a year or more from when it happened on most violations.... Ill check to make sure I’m 100% right...


“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”
– Eleanor Roosevelt

1979_max50

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Rate This | Posted over 7 years ago

 

Kalco, While I definitely advocate the wearing of seatbelts there are times in a patrol unit I will not, (or did not), wear them. When pulling up to the scene of a call the seatbelt was off when I got below say 20mph. I also did not wear one when patrolling slowly at night. You cannot get out of a car as quickly when you have a seatbelt on. I had an instance where my partner and I were ambushed at night once at a stop sign. We both were under the car in a blink of an eye and that would not have been quick enough if I had to reach over and unbuckle my belt. We caught a number of rounds through the windshield including a couple that hit the passenger seat where I was sitting a heartbeat before. If I had a belt on, I would have ended my career that night I'm afraid. Use your common sense is the best choice.

1979_max50

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Dus, you had a couple of violations before you were 18 and a DUI on your 19th birthday! I am afraid that you will probably be passed over as that might indicate a problem with alcohol. Now a better idea might be to go to collage and get your degree and keep a clean record for about 6 years to prove that this was just a youthful indiscretion and nothing they need to worry about.

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Thanks ODIN ill try callin the different departments around here. an thanks to you too CLOVER. i wrote ya a PM with my email for that info.. Thanks for the input guys im sure ya deal with a bunch of stupid kids on here but im serious about doin this. so thanks

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You cannot get out of a car as quickly when you have a seatbelt on. I had an instance where my partner and I were ambushed at night once at a stop sign. We both were under the car in a blink of an eye and that would not have been quick enough if I had to reach over and unbuckle my belt. We caught a number of rounds through the windshield including a couple that hit the passenger seat where I was sitting a heartbeat before. If I had a belt on, I would have ended my career that night I’m afraid. Use your common sense is the best choice.

Robo,

I understand your hesitation, but I stand by my remark about being able to get out of a car just as quickly with my seatbelt on as off. It is so second nature to me, I would reach for the latch even if I wasn't wearing it. Would it slow me down to where I would have caught a round in the incident you describe? I don't know, I am glad you got out of it in one piece. Where I work, we have our fair share of violence,(latest entry on the ODMP is from about 50 miles north of me) but I am much more likely to die from a MV accident than an ambush. I would hate for anyone to die in a crash because they thought they could get out of the car on the next domestic a little quicker by taking the belt off.

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Just to throw my 2 cents, just because. Kalco you state that you can get out of your vehicle with your seatbelt on because it is second nature. I commend you on this, but you are not everyone. I for one can not get out of my seatbelt like 2nd nature, Policy should not over rule common sense. If your traveling on hardtop to get somewhere, chasin, respondin, seatbelt is on. If your lookin, crawlin, spot lightin, or sign cutting seat belt off.

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FWS2500 I understand your point, but if you're just lookin, crawlin, spot lightin what happens when one of those things turns into chasing, respondin. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but possibly your bouncing back into your seat because you don't do it enough for it to be second nature. Just like all training that we do, it has to become something you do so that it does become second nature. I always wear my seatbelt and have never had a problem getting out of it because it has become second nature. I get to the point that I don't even remember putting it on. Like I said I'm trying to be an ass, I just hate when I hear an officer lost their lives because they were ejected after a chase due to them not wearing a seatbelt. Things happen in a blink of a eye, your just patroling one second and chasing someone the next.

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