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Kirlian-fingerprints_max50

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Last night I was coming home late from a friend’s house and these guys in car next to me was kind of revving their engine. My girlfriend and I looked over at them like what the hell and then went about our business. The next thing I knew they pilled out in the right turn lane cutting me off, they then got about 10 feet in front of us and hit their breaks, they flipped a bitch in the mid of the road,I damn near hit them and I thought they where going to roll... But anyways the next thing I know their on my ass fallowing me. I did the 4 right hand turns to see and they still were on my ass. We called 911 dispatch and we where told that there was nothing they could do. I was not about to stop even though I had my gun on me, so I punched it and lost them (Thank god for cobalt with supercharge). We got the plate number and gave it to my local PD this morning; But what could have been done besides driving insane. I was unable to find a fire department or a PD in the area and 911 said they couldn’t help… What’s kind of scary about this is in the last week we have had some drive by shootings while driving, 3 hospitalized and one killed. I always thought when road rage or being fallowed like this the officers normally will help… I don’t know but just makes me want to get done with school faster.


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I got followed by a Drunk about 8 years ago, and when I called for help, the drunk left my Drive way. they drove so close I was not able to see their lights.. the police officer who responded told me to do what you did, drive in large circles, and still call for help, 911 worked for me. They still got away.
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Clover, where hell were you that dispatch told you they couldn't help? I don't know, but we would have located the vehicle and at least IDed them. That's pretty sad.

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It’s a highway called 201 or backist highway which is an out skirt road from the city. (Utah west valley / magna area) Normally the trooper’s patrol this area and they were no where to be seen... It happen right before it turned into 60 mph so I went around the block hoping that I was imagining things... Also I gave them the mile markers where we were and the lady said that there was nothing they could do…


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I also do not understand what the dispatchers problem was. What do you mean they said they couldn't help? You don't ask, you tell them to send and officer to help you. What they were doing is called assault. It is the threat of bodily harm with the means and opportunity to do so. If they tell you they are not going to respond, ask to speak to a supervisor immediately as you are in fear of immediate harm. If that doesn't work let them know you are legally armed and are going to pull over and will defend yourself according to law. Rather extreme but damn, no reason they should not immediately send an officer to help.

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The absolute least the dispatcher should have done was given directions to the nearest law enforcement station. I agree with everyone else that a unit should have been dispatched. I usually do not advacate making complaints but I think I would call administration on monday and inquire about this. The only reason I would say to do this is to see if that really is their policy in these types of situations and see about getting the policy changed so that this type of situation does not occur again.

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i have an answer but it would probably be wrong.

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LOL @ Odin... PM me if you want... Or just say it...


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this is what i have told my wife. truth is there is never a cop around when you want one. so if you are cornered by any one that you dont think you can take out physically, it is time to pull the helpless female act on them. start talking to them in the sweetest voice you can , start flirting with them getting closer and closer keep this up until they are close enough then kick them as hard as you can in the knee cap while stricking them as hard as you can in the eyes. fight until the asshole is on the ground then stomp the face over and over again until you are tired. when he tells the story later he will probably leave out the fact that he got his ass handed to him by a female... my wife has been attacked before when she was younger, she was scared of her own shadow until she met me for a long time she thought as long as she was with me she was safe. unfortunately thats not true. i have had the benefit of years of street fighting , and bouncing at bars in M town, so i let her strike me hard enough to be effective. training for every senario i can think of. she has come close to knocking me out many times, "wish i had a red man suit". he confidence is high and she dosent scare as easy now. and she is firearms trained as well, but you cant always go for your gun.

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I can't believe the dispatcher told u "there was nothing they could do." WTF kind of agency is that? My agency does at least take the information, creates a CFS, gives the caller safety instructions and the information gets aired to the divisions affected. If an officer happens to be near the area of the complaint s/he will take it upon themselves to float that way. If the victim wants to S/C tho, they do have to go to a sub; we do not send to "routine" speeder/reckless driver complaints. The only time we send is if one party is being followed continuously by another and speeds or actions are escalating. I think in ur case u would've been guided to the nearest sub. Wrong, right or indifferent this is how it is in my county, not just agency.

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women have alot more tools than they think. i have assisted in giviing hand to hand training to abused women in public classes put on by local churchs and gyms.... defense seminars can be found anywhere if you look and they give out good info for everyone ,even female police officers. the acedemy didnt give enough defense tacktics for those that didnt have a strong upperbody.

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I would have driven to the nearest population center and found the PD, then I would have pulled up on their front lawn and laid on th horn.

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thats a great idea, but what if a woman was trapped and had no way out, now i know we could "what if" all day but the incident im talking about happened. if they are not prepared, their subject to be a victim.

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Hi Again, I am glad that, this seems to have been only hopefully a single incident, Yes you should at least have been helped.
As a martial artist my 2 favorite strikes are

1, the "knee to groin", they double up and a "sharp upper cut" to the jaw
Just be careful I have had a BRAWLERS fracture already , and they are no fun, (Especially if you have worked with the MD for 18 years) when the MD said, :"BEEN IN A BAR FIGHT LATELY??" Embarrassing :~(
2, AND a "leopard paw" to the Throat, takes their ability to breathe away and gives you time to get away. My 9 year old daughter was on the last leg to her junior black belt, when I switched to Night/evening again, and was not able to bring her to school any more.
( She is sometimes missing the control, so her leopards paws are very painful, no matter where they land)

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Thanks all Ill keep this in mind... I’m also going give the plate number to my boss where I work. Just frustrating as I was told that and it seems like when I’m out of the area I work for I get treated like dirt.

Odin,

That would have worked if there were only 2 of them. But from what I could see in the mirror there was at least 4 possibly 5. Not to mention my passenger was so freaked she was shaking and almost in tears.

GTS197,

Yea then my luck they would have sited me for it... lol


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And if they did?

I think it foolish to even consider stopping the car and envoking a confrontation. I don't care if you are a black belt member of the Navy SEAL Delta Special Kung-Fu group. As long as you're mobile, you have options. The moment you stop your vehicle and get out, your survivability has just decresed significantly...gun or not.

No one is going to help you while you're on some back county road. Get to where someone can.

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GTS197 is spot on with that advice. if at all possible you never put yourself at a disadvantage. Heck, you never put yourself at an even level if at all possible you place yourself at such a total advantage as possible and still be careful! The only "fair fight' is one that is designed to ensure that I win, completely!

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If I had stopped this would have become very bad and instead of me being here talking about it you all probably would be hearing it on the news and with possible fatalities. SO YES even though I had my gun and even though I know self defense I WAS NOT going to give them the benefit of doubt Period. That’s why I used the power of speed and got the hell out of there. I'm just disappointed in how the system works out there and having to drive like that on public roads.


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In Georgia, we call it "Agressive Driving". I have arrested more than one for less aggressive behavior. 911 should have sent out a patrol unit. I have been a victim myself. I was on my way home from work; working as a detective. They got a rude awakening... "Deer in headlights" comes to mind. It dont get any better than that!!.

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I also can not believe the dispatcher told you that. I would have asked for a supervisor. I also say you should file a complaint on Monday. GTS197 has a good point about getting into a populated are and laying on the horn. In this area though I tell people to go to a 24 hour store and lay on the horn. Most PD's in this area including the State Police are not always in the office, they are out on the road and there is not 24 hour coverage at all the stations and so no one may be there if you pull in. The same thing with the fire stations (they may be out at a fire). That's why I tell people to find a 24 hour business and make as much noise as you can when you pull in. Please follow up on this and don't let it drop.

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going back to my orignal post, leaving when you can is the prefered media but are you preparded if you are cornered, and running away is not an option.

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even if you are out numbered you can take a beating by many or take out as many as you can and take abuse by whats left standing. running away or being a statistic is a defetist attitude. my wife felt she had no choice last time and gave over her purse while hopping the thuig would leave, she was lucky thats all he did. ...now shes not at the mercy or will of those who would attack becaese she is female.

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As ODIN stated, options are life savers, if you run out of options whats left?

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Doing whatever is necesarry to survive.

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Clarification
I did not stop my car, but if I had run into a corner, I will fight back no matter what, When I was followed was young and innocent, experience shows drive in large circes and call 911.

Just do not corner me or my child, I get UGLY


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As would anyone, I would suspect.

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why wait to get yourself backed in a corner, as cops we train for a varity of situations, there is no reason for women to wait for something bad to happen before they train to defend them selfs..

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well a simple question to ask...would you ride on a train, dance in the rain, or feel no pain? You can take a train to most anywhere, dancing in the rain you'll get wet, but no one likes pain. Hell, I dont even like getting headaches but I get them. Someone follows me home and I know it, it may get a bit ugly.
Whatever you do, DONT DRIVE STRAIGHT HOME. Lose the idiot first, like someone said, drive to a 24 hour convient store or a taco stand, something thats open 24 hours. Making enough noise wil certainly get the place to call the police...no gaurentees there. Calling 911 is your best option and just hope and pray you dont get a dispatcher that says "theres nothing we can do". Thats bullshit because all you have to do is give your vehicle description, direction of travel and say to them you have your child sleeping in the car. THAT would certainly get a response from a LEO. I know childrens safety is like a almost near Number One priority LEO if someone wants to correct me on that one.
But for heavens sake, do NOT get out of your vehicle, you're just asking to be a statistic there gun or not. You coulod be Joe Navy Seal Badass but remember theres always someone out there badder then you. Just use your head on this topic....use common sense. Safety is paramount in this type of situation.

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well said


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thats a victim way of thinking, calll 911 and hope nothing bad happens, it has nothing to do with being a bad ass, and if you want to stay safe then dont leave your house.even then your not safe, we cant be every where at once everone needs to be able to defend them selfs. hope for the best...train for the worse.

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