Look what this. This happened to me,my wife and a second line supervisor. I dont understand how  a Dept. can look the other way when this directly affects me at work and at home. I have missed alot of work over this crap , my paycheck IS going to be short this month. And what? Im left holding the bag? Why does the supervisor get to get away with causing the mother of all domestic disturbances in my home?Does  any Peace Officer like responding to a domestic disturbance? As a C/O or any CDCR employee you can lose 5,10 even 20% of your your pay  for offending someone outside of work i.e telling a dirty joke,vulgar gesture, anything  that is offensive.

 Now I ask you this, wouldnt you be offended? What would you do? I had the opportunity to punch the guy in the face , but I didnt. I went to the employee relations office instead.ERO. Begging for help. Telling this lady the whole story, she asked his name, then pretty much signaled the interview over. I was shocked!  She didnt even write anything down, telling me in parting " Ill have to mull this over, Ill get back to you tomorrow." Do you think they did? UH Huh nope not even a phone call.  And dont think even for a second that I am the first to go into ERO with this exact same problem. Also apparently its okay to use State resources to contact another  Officers wife.

 Now tell me just hypothetically speaking ( this all happened a month ago) If I were to have left work that day and hurt myself or someone else, Do you think ERO or CDCR would have aknowledged that I came to them for help?? The point is adultery is very serious.People handle it  in many different ways,usually very badly. It is shocking and disgusting to me that a Dept. is willing to look the other way while a supervisor destroys an officers life,security, and at the same time creating a hostile work enviroment. And dont even get me started on my children who have been robbed out of a loving home all because a CDCR supe is not honarable or trustworthy in any way. I know  it does take two, but I do believe there are predatory COPS SGTS LTS  and CAPTS out there looking to bag troubled co-workers wives. ITS SICK! In LE it creates distrust, low morale and hard feelings toword your dept if they dont act. I have to find somewhere else to work now because I refuse to work for a DEPT that will keep silent ,and ignore what I consider conduct and unbecoming issues.

didn't you start this in another thread also?

here is my response from taht thread....... same answer here bud.

jdubb77 yes it takes two and if it weren't your supervisor it would have been someone else. It wasn't his fault it is hers.......the guy is an ass but if she weren't looking he wouldn't have found her would he? Pick your life up and put it back together and move on bud....without her. You will be better off.

It won't be the last time your supervisor/department screws you over...  I just hope next time its not literally...

 i call it as i seem em'

That sure is a messed up situation, I guess every one has their own opinion, but I believe the opinion comes from some type of ignorance of, "if it don't effect me then it don't matter". This type of situation can effect you. Man power (extra work), Hostile working enviorment (which we already have enough of), huge legal mistakes even the very breath you take can be effected. My good friend is going through the exact same thing only we are all supervisors. Its not just effecting the two involved at work it has effected everyone, both as supervisors not making clear decisions, not communicating properly, the very tension between them is felt by every one and as a supervisor your attitude can effect all your subornidates. Deputies choosing sides, insubornination, thats to say a few. What if a huge issue takes place and some one ends up dead. Maybe it could be another brother in law enforcement goes down because the officer's mind was preoccupied because his supervisor was banging his wife. You can't just look at it from the little brain and say uhh, no big deal, because it is! My buddy has had plenty oppertunities to hammer the guy, but then he would look like the bad guy. Ultimately he would put his children at greater risk as well. Kids are already suffering from the parents splitting and then to know your supervisor is one of the causes that is making your children weep. If you have kids then you'll know what I'm talking about. Good Parents will do anything for their children.
I believe that the guy should have been fired for his actions. Obvisouly, it takes 2 to tango, however the supervisor is a brother in blue and he made a very bad moral call to sleep with his brother's wife. You just don't do that in our line of work. How could we ever trust one another with our lives. We are often envolved in extremely violent situations and to have that type of situation with our departments is a huge issue that should be dealt with. It eats at the very thing we are sworn to uphold, which is everything rightous. At least thats the idea we sell the public. At least thats why so many have died. So when especialy a supervisor in law enforcement officer makes that call, to sleep with a suborninates wife. They should be fired, there is no room for immorality in our profession. We are not every day people, so we should not carry ourselves as if we were. So for those of you agree that it's not the man fault, your wrong because he has an obligation to help his brother if some thing is wrong not take advantage of it. What ever happen to the sanctity of Marriage, What happened to the good old American Vaules, What about being a brother in Blue, Because I'm not reading them in this forum?

bill9823 says ...

here is my response from taht thread....... same answer here bud.

jdubb77 yes it takes two and if it weren't your supervisor it would have been someone else. It wasn't his fault it is hers.......the guy is an ass but if she weren't looking he wouldn't have found her would he? Pick your life up and put it back together and move on bud....without her. You will be better off.

So I guess you'll be cool with your boss, if he nails your ol"lady. You'll just dump her and go back to work and take orders from him like nothing happened. You would not feel inferior that not only he is superior to you at work but he is also superior to you with YOUR wife. Can you say that you would not have a mental issue with it. Can you honeslty say that you would not question anything about yourself. If you can than I call "BULLS**T" on you!
I agree he needs make a judgement call about his wife, but that supervisor needs to be FIRED!

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bmorgan says ...

First let me say that I am not defending adultry.  I despise it.  But i do not believeit should be , nor do I want my department being involved in my sex life at all.  Not one little bit.

If you don't want the department involved in your sex life, you had better find another line of work. Police Officers are judged by their moral standards as well as their honesty.  Why would an officer ever hurt a brother officer by having an affair with his spouse?  I just don't understand how the younger generation can think this is okay. When I was a new officer, and something like this would have happened, he would have been fired, and would never work in LE again.  Today, it's almost socially acceptable.  I don't get it.

Gotta say your right. I am a part of the Younger Genration, But I hold true to my values, I see a lot of dumb thinking that I believe is the down fall to our country. People just don't vaule things like they should