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Single Point or 3-Point Sling (M4)
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Posted 9 months ago I am trying to decide between purchasing a single point and a 3-Point sling for my AR. This will be for normal patrol duties. Looking for input on the more practical choice. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!
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| Posted 9 months ago I have found the single point to be the best choice. It is less complicated and I find it very easy to switch to off-hand if the situation requires. If you have accessories on the foregrip a single point will not be in the way. The sling I use is made by CAA, I'm happy with it. I act insane to remain sane.
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| Posted 9 months ago The single point is the one I like. You can go left right shoulder with no problems. Mine is also the CAA I also have the CAA stock on mine that has the quick detach ring that has 3 postion you can attach it to the stock. |
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| Posted 9 months ago Thank you for the information, I have been swaying towards a single-point sling. I discovered the "Magpul MS2 Multi-Mission Sling", and that is the sling I would like to purchase, (it can be either a single point or two point. But NO ONE has any!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!
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| Posted 9 months ago I like the single point. I bought a 3 point and it was to complicated for what I wanted. I actually used a piece of the 3 point for my single point. |
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| Posted 9 months ago Single Point. It stays out of the way of the bolt release (for the M4 and ARs) if you need to do a combat reload and it doesn't catch up on everything (duty belt and other gear) the way the three point will when you let it hang. It doesn't interfere with equipment you have mounted to the rails on the front end of the rifle because it mounts up behind the charging handle (again - M4 and ARs). If you need to transition to the handgun you can move the rifle to the left (or right if you're a leftys) and behind in an single smooth motion as you draw the handgun with the other hand so you don't have to work around the hanging rifle as you aim in or deal with it craking you in the knee caps as you move to cover. The single point is ajustable and you can even get them in different sizes which makes it better for control purposes once you have transitioned to the handgun. Last - you can get some in a "semi" elastic configuration so that if you keep the weapon high on your torso while slung it can still be mounted to the shoulder or into the center (for you tactical guys) with ease. Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
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| Posted 9 months ago tx1911 says ...
A common issue with most Magpul products. If you are willing to wait a couple weeks to a couple months...I suggest that you get your name on every local dealer waiting list that you can. It may be a little quicker if you are willing to accept "first available" color. (dark earth or black) ...Don't forget the attachment plate too.
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| Posted 9 months ago Well, I prefer a 2-point, as the singles don't retain the weapon in a proper position so well when not standing upright, and as Taffy pointed out above, the 3-point is overly complicated for what it does and gets in the way of manipulating the weapon. I'm using the VCAS on a couple carbines right now and am very pleased with it. |
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| Posted 9 months ago I have a single point sling also. Mine is manufactured by Gear Sector ... great product and EXCELLENT customer service. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him. - Sun Tzu |
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| Posted 9 months ago 3 points are good if all you're wearing is a Tshirt and no other gear; plus a lot of practice. To me the biggest issue with the one point is that you can transition from left hand to right hand unlike most 3 points. Most people will say they would never do that, until they are pinned down with a small amount of cover. |
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| Posted 9 months ago Been reading up on MAGPUL, creator's of the Masada and ACR, they have a new single point sling system that looks great. They have a link to You Tube to see how it works. The sling has an adaptor that if you don't have Combat Arms experience to take off certain parts then it may not be for you, USCAV has an adaptor called Command Arms Accessories One Point Sling Mount that looks like it will work for the system all you have to do is take off the stock and slide the adaptor on and off. The only thing is can't find anyone who has them not even MAGPUL has them. |
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| Posted 9 months ago I wouldnt use a sling for patrol ARs, isnt much of a point. Time comes during a patrol critical incident to use the AR, I dont see much time fooling around with a sling. In a tactical situation such as some sort of entry, hostage rescue, foot patrol (not vehicle), warrant execution...etc etc, personally I would go with a 2 point sling and just hook it to a carabiner d ring on my armor/vest. |
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| Posted 8 months ago I can agree somewhat with you PSD but I have found the best thing for me to use is the single point wolf sling. you got one clip tied to your shoulder and the other through the sling on your rifle. it's adustable in length up to a little over a foot, simple one quick clip and you can remove or attach and switch your firing had hand if the situation dictated, it doesnt cross your chest or back so pouch placement and access to them isn't hindered and it's SUPER cheap.. For anyone that has acces to any military PX/BX or NAVEX go to the clothing sales and pick one up for like 11 bucks. Iv'e used the old school over the shoulder slings, single point mamba slings, and the blachawk tactical two point slings but nothing comes close to the price or the dexterity for me. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum |
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| Posted 8 months ago SFgearjunkie says ...
gearjunkie, are you talking about a foot patrol through the Adamiyah district of subburban Baghdad or are you talking about sitting in a cruiser patroling the River Oaks section of Houston? Remember, military and LE two different entitites.... |
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| Posted 8 months ago either way it works... I used it when i was in my cruiser (not driving of course) and as a foot patrol... it felt easier for me to not have to pick up a weapon out of a rack inside the cruiser i could just step out and my AR would be right there, no unstrapping it just comes out with you. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum |
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| Posted 8 months ago The new Magpul sling MS2 is the best sling by far I would also say the ASAP sling plate. This plate will give you enough room to transition the firearm from strong side to weak side with out the sling getting in the way or having to move it. The MS2 sling is a 2 point or 1 point and is quick to change. The 2 point is very helpful when you have to go hands on or transverse over a object that requires you to use your hands and arm strength. The sling also has a quick adjustment strap so you can strap the rifle over your back in order to go over fences or if you have time prior to going hands on. |
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| Posted 8 months ago I know I'm going against the grain here...but I run a 3-pt on my M4. I've used the single point, but have found it to be more of a problem then anything else. I always seem to drag my muzzle when I bend down and I always manage to get debris caked in the FS. I will agree that the 3-pt is more complicated, but I've trained with it enough and been on enough callouts with it that it's easy to manipulate...even under stress. You are clearly better than everyone, our safety and the laws should be of no concern to you. MODERATOR #6 |
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| Posted 8 months ago GTS197 says ...
I totally agree. I started with a 3 point and changed over to a 1 point bungee. You needed to purchase a holder for your belt to keep the rifle from swinging back up front after pushing it off to the side. I had the same problems about bending over and making lots of noise. I went back to a 3 point. The 1 point is great if you don't move around. The 3 point is not that hard to get used to. Just because you trained for something, doesn't mean you're prepared for it. - Anonymous
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| Posted 8 months ago I'm a big boy and even with all my gear on I prefer a 3 point sling. I even put one on my 870. Whatever you decide....PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE with it. Be safe! |
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| Posted 8 months ago If you have to go to your long gun on a call it seems a good bet you're going to be on that call for a while, so having a sling option is a nice way to go even on the patrol rifle. I agree that practice is the key no matter which one you personally choose. Some Departments train to transition to the handgun rather than go for a combat reload, (actually defining it as the prefered method) but that isn't a set thing either. I know guys that can do a combat reload an M4 under stress and have rounds down range faster than most of us can go to the pistol and fire a first shot. That's all about experience and practice, the sling being a secondary factor at best. Just have to go with what you like and train with it. Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
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| Posted 8 months ago A 3-point sling is great for stability of the weapon, and again, if you train with it, it should not be hard to transition from your rifle to your secondary, or back to your primary weapon if the rifle is the secondary. There are many 3-point slings on the market for various uses. I have seen some that will allow detachment from the chest to act as a bicept wrap for more stability when shooting in the prone. My suggestion would be try out both, consider what your application would be, and then purchase the one that best suits your needs. One thing I can tell you is if you're doing any type of MOUT activities, you will more than likely want a 3-point. |
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| Posted 25 days ago Look at the Viking Tactics VTac sling. It's a 2 point adjustable sling. This was made/designed by a Jedi Master named Kyle Lamb. Do some research on him and look at the VTac sling. After using a single point (Blackhawk) and a three point, the VTac is awesome. He has instructional videos on his website about this product. |
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| Posted 24 days ago Had the 3 point and have now gone to a single point for many of the above mentioned reasons. Mainly, the ability to transition easily from right to left and back as needed without the tangle. I haven't looked back. Una stamus! |

