To ChaplainKeppy, usualy what they do is call everyone into a meeting and explain to us what happened and the detailes of the death, then we have the option of talking to the Tulsa police chaplain or we can find our own counciling if we need it.

ODIN has absolutely no respect for anyone.. as far as the hatred of the security profession I am dumbfounded..
There are private security officers that put their life on the line daily.. what about Iraq and Afghanistan to name a couple?? And as far as security officers that work in the private sector here domestically they definitely serve a purpose and the professional ones are much appreciated.

I've only read a few of the articles posted here. But I agree with the ones I have read. I am an Armed SO in Pennsylvania. I work for two security companies. One has a contract with the US Department of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Services. I am also an elected Pennsylvania State Constable. I too agree your appearence and attitude go a long way.
I've had to work with other security officers. My whole mission when working is to go home with all of the body parts and the same respect (from the police officers) that I started my shift with. I believe that the police officers that I encounter while working generally respect me. As an PA certified armed SO, I have not more than Citizens Arrest powers. Through the armed security training abd certficiation and as a PA Constable I have been trained in the PA Crimes Codes. As an Armed Officer on the government contract I am trained in the US Crimes Codes. Since I do not have arrest powers, I try to get suspects to talk to me, since I do not have to read them their rights, if they confess to me, I'm a police officers and DA best witness. When the police officers arrive, I tell them what I have witnessed, seen, heard, and been told and then I step back and let the officer conduct his investigation. When a suspect wants to argue with me about what I have reported to the police officer, I do not respond unless asked to do so by the officer.
I have worked with a lot of the black eyes of the security business. I had a partner one time believe that he had to beat the police into a shots fired call that happened off of our property (well off our property). He did this on his own, while I was in the bathroom. I had been a police dispatcher for this department, and we were able to monitor the police radio while working, I heard a police supervisor that I knew very well looking for my partner afterwards. Needless to say he got reemed. I pull the police supervisor aside and explained to him that I had nothing to do with him leaving the property and gave him the phone number for the security company. That officer was asked to resign two days later. For SO like this partner that I had, I have little patients for! At this assignment we were accross the street from a city project. I made it known to all of the evening and night shift officers and supervisor that we would always drive over there when then would geta call in there, but that we would sit in the shadows unless an officer was in danger of getting hurt or killed. It became a common practice for the police officer to exit their cars and look for our vehicle. There were numerous times that we would just get out of our vehicle and walk over to the officer if they were out numbered, even if the incident did not appear to put the officers life indanger.
To all security officers that might read this ... You are not a police officer, but you could become a very reliable allie to them. Build a good repore with them, you never know when you may really need them! Last but not least ... YOU ARE NOT GOD, have and give respect to all!

I work as a security guard on 3rd shift for a major corporation, and I'll be the first to say that my job DOES NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO WHAT A POLICE OFFICER DEALS WITH. I am doing this job for experience (what little there is), trying to learn as much as possible, while I'm going to school to become a police officer. I understand Odin's point of view, and I can sympathize, just looking at some of my coworkers...but I am not some "wannabe". I am pulling a 4.0, working full time while going to school, and educating myself in any possible way to one day be the best police officer I can be. But I also completed an internship with a major Sheriff's Department, and those 4 months really opened my eyes and cemented my desire. I do not ever think that because I'm security I have "authority". I am only here as a calming influence for people, and to help handle situations. But when I have a problem, I'm calling the police. I respect the job they do, and respect the people. I do not take my job lightly, but I think some people here need to make a distinction: there may be some shitty security guards with criminal records working this job to be "wannabe cops." But there are a few of us who are hardworking and only looking for any type of safety-related experience to better ourselves in the hopes of a future in LE. I also go to school w/ some people who work private security and they're making 6 figures, full benefits, great vacations, etc. I think one issue is that private security pays so much better than real police work, and there's some envy going on...it may not be fair, but it's the way it is. I could stay here, and make good $....but I'm going to take that pay cut and do a job I was born to do. Doesn't mean I don't understand it's the person in the uniform, not the uniform on the person.

To, ODIN, I want to make one thing clear, I dont think i ever said that security and law enforcement are exactly the same. (if i did show me and i will eat my fingers so i cant type anymore). I said some things are alike. i know that their are some things that i will probably never do that police officers do. Just to clear things up. any way i will be waiting for your sarcastic reply ! LOL

ODIN, taking a good look at the pic on your profile, I think you are very proud of being a horses ass. Maybe you have had several bad experiences while working as a security guard and you feel that it's due to your inability to work and play well with others. You seem to have a negitive answer for everything and everybody. I suggest you take a really long look at yourself and get some clue of what the term TEAMWORK means.

people have their own opinions about Security Officers. Let them say what they wanna say because it doesnt bother me. Why? Because I know I'm a professional and act professionally when it comes to my job. Someone doesnt like it or me at work, I just simply show them the door. I dont take it personal because if you do, you've just lowered yourself to someone elses standards. Lets all be a team here and work together and lets get over this hump, 10-4??

The problem is security is a very different profession.

If you would take 100 police officers from different departments and compare their jobs you would see most day to day activities would be the same. Sure each department has different policies and procedures but at the end they all have the same core.

If you take 100 people in the security field and compare their jobs you would find a vast amount of differences between each one. Private security is so diverse in everyway. Take all the different types of security for example. Concert Security, Job Site Security, Mall Security, Armored Car Security are just a few examples. Although they can all be classified as “Security” the amount of skill, knowledge and professionalism needed differs from each one.

To put all security professionals in one boat is wrong. Much like the public does with law enforcement. For example: “Oh those cops beat up a man of a different race, they must all be aggressive racist pigs”. That statement is wrong just like a lot of LE views on security. For most it is based on a bad experience that you have had with an unprofessional security official and your mind is made up from that point on.

In conclusion if you are one who would throw all in the security profession together and base your beliefs on some bad experiences know this. There are professionals out there who do a great job and it is there chosen profession. As a law enforcement officer you would not like to be thrown in with those who give LE a bad name, just as security professionals don’t want to be. You should think about that the next time your quick to judge.

this is one of those threads for the security guards to come to jump up and down waving their arms telling eveyone that they should get state retirement and the same respect as a law enforcement officer.
We have to hear about how many thugs and murder suspects they track down and prosecute on a daily basis, and how many lives they save just like police officers.
to hear it from them we dont need police officers anymore because they do the same job. it is not good enough to have the respect of being a good and profesional security guard, they want the same respect as a good and profesional police officer.

NO one except fallen officers, deserves more respect than officers that have made it to retirement.

ODIN said:

this is one of those threads for the security guards to come to jump up and down waving their arms telling eveyone that they should get state retirement and the same respect as a law enforcement officer.
We have to hear about how many thugs and murder suspects they track down and prosecute on a daily basis, and how many lives they save just like police officers.
to hear it from them we dont need police officers anymore because they do the same job. it is not good enough to have the respect of being a good and profesional security guard, they want the same respect as a good and profesional police officer.

I been doing security for about a year and a half, auxiliary police for almost 3 years. Completing my 2yr degree in criminal justice. I see it like this: It all depends on the person and their work ethics and how they present themselves when they're doing the job.

Neither. Just single and looking to mingle....

jims4 said:

NycAux said:

Neither. Just single and looking to mingle....

You're at the best place to mingle. Here. LOL

Excellent post NYCAux. Hopefully it may educate some. Security is a very vital service in many businesses. If all security officers performed their jobs according to your post, they would all be respected. It is the rambo type and so called wannabes that color the attitude towards security by those that have a negative attitude toward the profession.