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I have worked for a city dept and I am currently working for a Sheriff's Dept. I would take a County any day (unless it was a bigger city 300,000 plus). You have so much more area to cover working for the County. Plus you can get in on all the good stuff going on; not just what's happening in you area.  

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Its also important to remember that once you leave the patrol division of either and you enter other divisions, it really doesnt matter which one you are in.....CID, Warrants, SRT, Narc, motor, etc etc etc.....there is virtually no difference in county and city.


Remember folks...LE is much more than just patrol.

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mtboots says ...



Having worked in both a city Police Department and a Sheriff's Office, I must say I would definately favor the Sheriff's Office. Why? Simply, the ability to "wander" throughout the county and not be constrained to the humdrum of city patrol. Of course, this applies to where I work becuase the "city" has a population of only 3500. New York City would be a whole other story.....



Exactly. There's several big towns where the city and county have the same borders so the Deputies end up being jailors, court officers, process server, etc. and rarely see the inside of a patrol car. New York City is an excellent example as is San Francisco (shudder).   

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In CA there are several Sheriff's Depts that do "Contract Law Enforcement." The most obvious and largest example is the LA County Sheriff's Department. They contract with multiple cities and there are close to 10,000 sworn employees. In LA County the deputies work in the jails, courts, warrant service, detectives, crime labs, a multitude of other possible assignments but especially in patrol.  One of the good thing is if you screw up there's an opportunity to kind of get lost in the system and then you'd have the chance to serve your "sentence" and if you're a good boy or girl you can return to the "civilized" world.


The Sheriff is elected so there's job security for at least four years and most of them easily win reelection as incumbents unless they've been particularly ineffectual. Police Chief's are usually appointed and work at the pleasure of the mayor and city council. Even though they have a contract, it can be broken and then you get somebody new. So in either case the boss is always sucking up to somebody.

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  I work for a Sheriff's Office and wouldn't have it any other way. I couldn't be confined to a small district. Yes there are politics, anybody that works in a SO or PD who says that they do not have politics are blind. As far as worrying about your Sheriff every four years, I've been blessed, we have a Sheriff who has just started his fourth term, he's a good Sheriff and has run unopposed since his first election. Conversely we have a PD in our county that went through 8 Chiefs in five years. In fact our Sheriff has been in office longer than any Chief in our county, and some of our PD's pay their Chiefs six figure salaries. 


  Also our Sheriff has a philosophy on traffic "If they deserve a ticket give them one, if they deserve a warning give them one". We don't have an administrator asking us why we "only" wrote 50 tickets during the last month. I knew one deputy that had the same ticket book for two years, we also have some that go through them pretty fast, it's our decision.


  I'm not saying PD's are bad because I wouldn't know, I've never worked for one... and don't plan on it :)

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I am a Police officer, but I prefer being a deputy. I graduated BLET in 1985 as a Deputy Sheriff. I have worked both. A deputy has more of a challenge. You get the most unsual  calls in the county. Our county deputies also do a lot in the city. If a unit is close to a city call they will respond until a city officer can arrive. It's all about taking care of each other. I like the fact that if you are anywhere in the county, you can have authority. NC deputies also have state jurisdiction on any Felony which originates in their county.


Deputies also get to play with better toys. When I worked, as a deputy, I carried a AK-47 in my car. Our sheriff did not care what you carried, as long as you qualified by state standards and bought it yourself. We had no limits on how much ammo we could carry in the car. We were allowed to personalize our cars too. Many deputies have more warning lights than a spaceship. Most also have extra equipment, radars,cameras ect... The sheriff's theory is if it makes your job more efficient, safer and does not cost the county it's ok.


Our county has  shared use of a boat with a volunteer fire department. It has both  Red/Blue lights, Fire and Sheriff insignia too. Our county has a helicopter.


Deputies get more respect in the city than the police. The city officers have to please the Chief, Mayor, City council ect... The Sheriif is the most powerful Law Enforcement figure in the county. As an elected official a sheriff has more power when he or her speaks.


Many Police officers often state, I wish we could do............., like the deputies. We are all family regardless of what we do, but for me it's being a deputy. I am in the process of getting sworn back in for reserves. I miss it.     



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Have also worked for both, actually still sworn with the SO here, and I agree that both have their politics, maybe the SO more than the PD, but it's there.

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mshort says ...



Both have thier pros and cons. But both have the politics involved.



Sheriff Office all the way

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After doing ride alongs with both, i would have to say that the Police Departments have more action and  variety. Both are equally awesome, but personally im more interested in the Police Departments. 


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what constitutes "action"?


 

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Speaking only from personal experience (having worked for three police departments and two county agencies) I would have to say that even though I do not like the four year cycle that prevails in Sheriff's Departments, I simply love the aspect of county wide jurisdiction.    Yes each has it's own positives and negatives.    But in my case, I love the Sheriff's Department.   



What is a four year cycle? How does it work? Does it get affected with performance during your employment?

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After working for two sheriff depts I would have to say my biased opinion is SO...and having friends in both police and sheriff depts...hearing some of the differences...pros and cons...I would still say SO!

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I have never worked for the local PD, only SO and IMO, I would rather stay where I am at from what I have seen and heard. The pay is better, wider jurisdiction and the atmosphere is more laid back. I make more now than most local officers starting out and I am not even sworn in. The Jail isn't as bad as most people think.


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Have to agree with princess5335.I worked for both also and enjoyed both.While working in a city of approx. half a million people I belonged to three different  units which allowed me to roam the entire city and I was not subjected to routine radio calls,it was great.

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depends are you North or South. North...PD South SD


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Princess5445 says ...



Well I have to say speaking from experience, I would rather work for the Police Dept, The Sheriff Department seems to political for even the sanest person, The Police Dept seems to be more layed back, and Doesn't have the drama everyday.. But thats just one opinion..



I guess that would depend on what State & city you live in. Los Angeles, Ca. does have lot's of drama daily.

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mshort says ...



Both have thier pros and cons. But both have the politics involved.


Ditto!  


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what it boils down to is what does the job it self provide, what is your sense of happiness? For many people is the gumball machine and lights and sirens. Each agency will be diffrent. small town big dont matter its all politics. so you really have to look at that agency and decide for you. For me its no question. the sheriffs office provides a much better working enviorment, more advancement and the pay is far better. I belive that the sheriffs office can provide a better enviorment and a better chance to excell in your career field. so many chances to move else where. its really just what you want to get out of it.

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BOTH! we all have the same goal Put Turds in jail!!

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City Police NOT political?!? Let's see, the Chief serves at the behest of a Mayor or City Manager and or a City Council and can be fired at any time by this or these individuals. The Sheriff serves at the behest of many and has to be fired by a majority of the people.  

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Having worked for both, I would say that I am much happier with a police dept.  Sheriffs have WAY too much power, and it was like a hurricane there because every week we were subject to his whim and constant transfers from one job to another.  Plus, he was always too worried about kissing the hands of the voters (even if they were the criminals) and his treatment of us was that we were "guilty until proven innocent."


Having said that, I plan to BE a sheriff, and make some changes!

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The truth of the matter is, what you make of the situation, no one can determine how your day is gonna be except you. You can have a positive attitude or a negative one.  The idea of one agency being better than the next is ludacris because, we all have the same responsibility of public service.  I would tell you to do a ride along with any agency you can and try to determine what their culture is.  Ask these simple questions:


1. Can I see myself working with the people here?


2.  Is there room for advancement?


3.  What kind of training opportunities are available?


4.  What's the pay and benefits?


That should help you get started, but all this stuff about better personalities and better agencies is just a load of Bull!


Just my opinion


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Both. I don't actually work for either one but I dispatch for them both. I work for our county 911 and we are funded alone. We dispatch for deputies, and two city police depts. I get along with them both and I love my guys. I would prefer not to choose, because I enjoy both depts and thier chief's or Sheriff.. We have a very small community and we all have to work together.

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mstarl says ...



That's why I hope to get hired by the SD here. I know there will be a stint in the jail first, but working the whole County sounds more appealing to me.


 


mtboots says ...



Having worked in both a city Police Department and a Sheriff's Office, I must say I would definately favor the Sheriff's Office. Why? Simply, the ability to "wander" throughout the county and not be constrained to the humdrum of city patrol. Of course, this applies to where I work becuase the "city" has a population of only 3500. New York City would be a whole other story.....


 


 the ability to "wander" throughout the county and not be constrained to the humdrum of city patrol. This is why I favor the sheriff's office as a former mcso explorer (Maricopa County Sheriffs office) I found comfort and relaxion in the ride a logs out there. But to me I just love patrol!!!!!!



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I've worked both, and for me, it's Police Dept all the way, without a doubt. The S.O. was too dramatic and too cut-throat and there was nothing to "get ahead" to, but the PD isn't like that, I love my guys in the PD and FD, we're like a big family, and at the SO it was like who could stab who in the back first and wipe their hands clean...wasn't a fun environment.

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Depends upon the jurisdiction in my opinion.  No two areas of the country are going to be exactly alike.  Here in Metro Atlanta, the counties surrounding the area vary a great deal.  My agency (Fayette County, Sheriff's Office), is full service; we do not have a county police force.  The municipalities have police departments, but the Sheriff's Office is much larger and offers opportunities that are not always available in a smaller agency.  We cover a much larger population and land area as well, 199 square miles.


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I like this topic.  Can be alot of fun.  Currently I work for a PD but I did work for an SO for little bit at the begining of my  career.  Which one is better absolutely depends on the agency and the agency head.  I was told this once and still kind of believe it to be true.  "Few people can be Police Officers and only a few of those Police Officers can be Sheriff's Deputies."  I think the reason for that saying is as a Police Officer you represent the agency and the city. As Deputy Sheriff you are a representative the agency and the Sheriff.  Also there is a mutlitide of different functions between the two depending on where you are at.  Bottom line is I could do either and have enjoyed working for both.  Advantages and disadvatages to each.  Both involve politics, there is no escaping that beast.                

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It's  all  political  in  one  way  or  another.

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anything in law enforcement is political. i like the county. seems to be less drama. We continue to have officers leave city to go to the county

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I would say that depends on the size of your Department, the larger the department the less you as an individual is affected by the politics. Any organization that you have is going to have politics though. We have Civil Service here in NJ and we are still affected by politics, although not as much.

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