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I was watching a show on T.V and an officer in Texas I believe it was, was killed in the line of duty a few years ago while he was doing a routiene stop to checka car. the men in the car ended up killing him with his own gun. we need to find a way to protect officers and prevent this from happening. the only reason the killers were caught was because the officer had the camera in his car on. This is sad when an officer is killed in the line of duty.

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Are ya sure they were just gong to "checka car"


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thats what the guy said. it said he was going to check a car that looked suspicious.

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It is sad when this happens. That's why some of may family doesn't want me to go the the Academy. If lifeall of you put your lives on the line, so can I.

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Unfortunately, im upstate NY, we had some Officers killed in the LOD stopping a suspicious vehicle. One did not call out as it was not policy at the time and he was not aware they had just committed a bank robbery (the call had not come in yet) and he laid there 45 minutes until a car who had pased them when he was pulling the vehicle over, drove by again and became suspicious that the cars were still there. Another suspicious vehicle stop, the Officer even waved off cars before he was shot and killed. That's why I say to you LEOs to NOT take anything as routine and to minimize car stops. Just checking a car can mean your life.STAY SAFE!

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I was monday morning quarterbacking an arrest i had the other day and want to get some opinions...i came upon a car in a closed gas station 0230 hrs. the car had out of state tags. it is not uncommon to find cars in this gas station at all hours of the morning (out of staters don't realize that NJ law prohibits self serve). They pull in and think they can swipe their credit card and fuel up, but they can't.....anyway the vehicle had 2 occupants male/female. i approach the male who is out of car and ask what he's doing. he explains that he is trying to get gas. i chalk it up to another out of stater so i direct him to the 24 hour gas station down the street. i get his ID to make sure he's not wanted and find his Connecticut license revoked, so now i start asking more questions. we have an interstate running through our town which is major drug route so im thinking maybe drugs. older couple (early 50's). i ask if he has any weapons and he answers that he has a permit in Connecticut. i ask if he has weapon in car and he advises he has one on him. so now this is where i want to get opinions.....my back up officer arrived and now we are both aware that he has a weapon on his person...i immediately direct the male to the vehicle telling him to put his hands on the car and emphasizing not to move them. i remove the weapon (Springfield Armory XD40 .40 cal loaded with hollow points and one in the chamber) from his waist and then cuff him. THIS time there were no problems, but i want to know if most would have cuffed first then retrieve the weapon or get the weapon out the equation first then cuff?? Once i started to cuff after the weapon was taken from him, he started to resist slightly not wanting to be cuffed so im wondering if i had attempted to cuff first then remove the weapon, would things have gone badly? just trying to get opinions

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I was monday morning quarterbacking an arrest i had the other day and want to get some opinions...i came upon a car in a closed gas station 0230 hrs. the car had out of state tags. it is not uncommon to find cars in this gas station at all hours of the morning (out of staters don't realize that NJ law prohibits self serve). They pull in and think they can swipe their credit card and fuel up, but they can't.....anyway the vehicle had 2 occupants male/female. i approach the male who is out of car and ask what he's doing. he explains that he is trying to get gas. i chalk it up to another out of stater so i direct him to the 24 hour gas station down the street. i get his ID to make sure he's not wanted and find his Connecticut license revoked, so now i start asking more questions. we have an interstate running through our town which is major drug route so im thinking maybe drugs. older couple (early 50's). i ask if he has any weapons and he answers that he has a permit in Connecticut. i ask if he has weapon in car and he advises he has one on him. so now this is where i want to get opinions.....my back up officer arrived and now we are both aware that he has a weapon on his person...i immediately direct the male to the vehicle telling him to put his hands on the car and emphasizing not to move them. i remove the weapon (Springfield Armory XD40 .40 cal loaded with hollow points and one in the chamber) from his waist and then cuff him. THIS time there were no problems, but i want to know if most would have cuffed first then retrieve the weapon or get the weapon out the equation first then cuff?? Once i started to cuff after the weapon was taken from him, he started to resist slightly not wanting to be cuffed so im wondering if i had attempted to cuff first then remove the weapon, would things have gone badly? just trying to get opinions

i always cuff first then remove the weapon. one reason is if the weapon is already out and he starts to fight the weapon is in play . if the weapon is still on his person and he resists i believe it gives me just a few seconds more to do what i need to to gain control of the situation.

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Hmmm... having not had first hand experience in your case, I can only say what I THINK I might have done, which if you and your back up KNEW it was carrying, I would have probably cuffed him first. Probably because IF he had one, whats to say he didn't have more? But I'm thinking that if I were out to hurt someone, I'd prolly have more stuffed somewhere... But just my two cents... doesn't mean much because I haven't actually been in situations like yours. But I am glad that no one was hurt in your experience.


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If there are two of you then you have him interlock his fingers on his head, take control of his hands while your back-up stands by. You remove the weapon and hand it to your partner while still maintaining control of the suspect. You then cuff him always maintaining control. If you are by yourself you do the same thing except you cuff first and then removed the weapon..

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If he told you he was packing, I'm surprised he resisted at all. Whichever way tactically works for you in the situation, go for it. Bad guy went to jail, you went home. Have confidence in what you did. You did good.