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Over three years ago before I had considered a law enforcement career I tried cocaine on one occasion just as an experiment.  I also tried mushrooms on one occasion, also over three years ago. I am not nor have I ever been addicted to any substance. Had I known that later in life I would have to explain these actions to an employer, I would never have considered experimenting. I want to be honest on my police applications and interviews, but I have a feeling I will be disqualified for these prior actions. Should I look at a different career path because of these two isolated instances?

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Different departments, different policies. Some wont even allow 1 time experimental use. Some will. Find out which departments you want apply to and ask what their policy is.


By the way.... Read the TOU's and post an intro please.


 


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MIstak, I have the same issue as you and agree with clb.  I am also currently starting my career and have noticed different substance policies.  Just go from website to website and see what each one requires. 

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I am interested as well in obtaining a job as a police officer but am afraid that prior experimental drug use will pose a problem.  Does anyone know if one department can forward information about your past to other departments?  What is a TOU? 

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TOU= would be "terms of use" most of the time. I am assuming that is what they are regarding by mentioning that.  I can say that most agencies will have a difference between herbal drugs i.e.(weed,shrooms) and they will have a prior use time period and it will differ to those of hard drugs i.e.( cocaine,crack). A lot of what you are asking can not be discussed in these forums that is why nobody will go into detail and is referring you to the TOU's. As a cop on the street if you are local to where you are wanting to apply. Most are understanding and have no problems answering questions if you show you are sincere and really looking for information for that purpose. Lastly I will say if there is anything and you do get a chance to talk to investigators about your past....DO NOT LIE. I have seen quiet a few people fly through all the tests and then the lies come back to get them in the end. Just be up front. I would even tell the officer you had prior drug usage and ask him if he able to discuss those policies with you since you are thinking about filing an application. I hope this round about info helps you out. 


 


Good Luck. 

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Thanks for the advice..I will def take you up on it.  I do not want to lie as I know it can come back to bite you in the ass.  Thanks again.

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All of you are forgetting a very important aspect of the application process; you are not the only one applying for the position. Having performed many background investigations, experimenting with anything other than marijuana will in my opinion cause an immediate disqualification of the applicant. It does in my agency and we are relatively small compared to our northern neighbors.


The vast majority of law enforcement agencies large and small will not consider an applicant who has used anything stronger than marijuana. The consequences of having an officer on the force who had "experimented" with anything stronger than marijuana would have far reaching effects on the agency administrator.


Believe me, if an agency administrator has the choice, which they all do, they will not even look twice at an applicant with the type of experimentation described here.


To address the question do agencies share information, yes we sure do.


 


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During the course of a background investigation for a police applicant we check with Federal, Stae and local police agencies, your schools, your previous employers, your neighbors and any references listed on your application.  One other thing to consider, if you have people who do not like you (and I had this happen with one applicant) that person may find out that you are in the application process and decide to "drop a dime" on you, calling the hiring agency and telling them about your prior drug use.


DO NOT LIE about prior drug use during any phase of the hiring process.  That is cause for immediate dismissal, regrdless of how far along in the process you are, and even applies if the lie is discovered after you get hired. You can also count on a urine test being a part of your pre-hiring process.


As ValyCop so eloquently points out, many agencies will hire you with a prior "experimental" marijuana use, but the use of other illegal drugs, even experimentally will definitely preclude you from being hired (at least here in New Jersey).


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Yeah they definately check your background. I recieved one letter in the mail and another message on my myspace account from 2 ex girlfriends that i have no contact with, but they even talked to them about me. It's wild when you get that info back and you really see how far they go. It's all for the best though.

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Do not lie about anything.  I have seen officers get terminated years later when a background check was conducted and it was discovered they were not 100% truthful on their background.  Alot of agencies have let up on their past drug use requirements due to the decrease in the number of canidates.  Good luck and God bless.

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I have applied to 2 agencies and have been denied due to an incident with drug use over 10 years ago   -- and is was not continuous or serious -- no convictions -- and I now have a bachelors degree in criminology  --finishing academy next month and I just found this out!!! Now what do I do??

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What about using a legal schedule II drug without a prescription, such as adderall for functional (not recreational) purposes during college?


I was never a partier, and was never addictted to it & have since stopped using it. From my research, different departments have different polices as everyone has mentioned. I've spoked to a reserve officer about the reserves, and he said it's not a problem.... wheras with the CA DOJ, I would have to wait 5 years since possession was considered illegal & I was under 23 (10 years if I was 23 & over)... not sure, but the CA DOJ website mentioned the Uniform Health code:


"Any applicant for a State civil service examination for a peace officer class who discloses, or whose background investigation reveals, use of a drug for which possession would constitute a felony offense under the Uniform Controlled Substances Act (Health and Safety Code, division 10, beginning at 11000) subsequent to his or her eighteenth birthday and prior to his or her twenty‑third birthday, shall be disqualified from the examination in which he or she is competing until 5 years have elapsed from the date of the disclosed or revealed use of the drug; and shall not be eligible to take any State civil service examination for a peace officer class until 5 years have elapsed from the date of the disclosed or revealed use.  If any such disclosed or revealed use occurred on or after the applicant’s twenty‑third birthday, he or she shall be disqualified from the examination in which he or she is competing until 10 years have elapsed from the date of the disclosed or revealed use of the drug; and shall not be eligible to take any State civil service examination for a peace officer class until 10 years have elapsed from the date of the disclosed or revealed use.  The disqualification period shall begin on the date that the drug was used, and not on the date that the drug use was disclosed or revealed."  source: http://jobs.ca.gov/CASPB/sup/BulPreview.asp?R1=095299&R2=001084...

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I think you've probably answered your own question.


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Here in Raleigh, NC, prior drug use, such as Schedule II drugs is a big NO when applying to a department... that includes Adderall without a prescription and cocaine and shrooms.  And you have been given some pretty good advice to not lie on your application.  It will come back to bite you.  You can't even Volunteer at Raleigh PD if you have used heavy drugs such as Cocaine. 


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TKO99 says ...



What about using a legal schedule II drug without a prescription, such as adderall for functional (not recreational) purposes during college?


I was never a partier, and was never addictted to it & have since stopped using it. From my research, different departments have different polices as everyone has mentioned. I've spoked to a reserve officer about the reserves, and he said it's not a problem.... wheras with the CA DOJ, I would have to wait 5 years since possession was considered illegal & I was under 23 (10 years if I was 23 & over)... not sure, but the CA DOJ website mentioned the Uniform Health code:


 



Using a Rx drug without an Rx is not legal. Rationalize it all you want, but your college use was not functional, even if you were tyring to stay up all night to study or whatever. Drink redbull like everyone else, you don't have to worry about that on an application.

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elaken says ...



TKO99 says ...



What about using a legal schedule II drug without a prescription, such as adderall for functional (not recreational) purposes during college?


I was never a partier, and was never addictted to it & have since stopped using it. From my research, different departments have different polices as everyone has mentioned. I've spoked to a reserve officer about the reserves, and he said it's not a problem.... wheras with the CA DOJ, I would have to wait 5 years since possession was considered illegal & I was under 23 (10 years if I was 23 & over)... not sure, but the CA DOJ website mentioned the Uniform Health code:


 



Using a Rx drug without an Rx is not legal. Rationalize it all you want, but your college use was not functional, even if you were tyring to stay up all night to study or whatever. Drink redbull like everyone else, you don't have to worry about that on an application.



Redbull?  YUK!!!  Tastes like cough syrup!  I'll stick to the gin and tonics.


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