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Posted almost 7 years ago

 

I have been thinking about this for awhile. I will be joining a big city explore post but my dad thinks I should become an officer in a small town. Which is better? A Sheriff, Big City Police, Small Town Police, State Patrol, Federal, or Military. Which has better pay typically? Which departments have high budget for new gear and other "goodies". I thought that why not ask this to Police, Sheriff, State Police, Federal, and Military officer and get their opinions.

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You may have opened a can of worms with this thread. Everyone has their own opinion and they don't always agree with the other guys. Here is my take on your question, it depends on what you want to do with your career and where you are in the country. I have noticed that the West coast operates a bit differently than the East Coast. The California Highway Patrol is called that and not the state police for a reason. Here in the West, the ultimate responsibility for law enforcement rests more with the county than it does with the state. It is different back east. That means that The California Highway Patrol are primarily traffic officers and work traffic related problems. Nothing against them, they are very professional and good at what they do. I work for one of the largest municipal agencies in the country and I get bored. After a couple years at one spot, I need a change of scenery. I have that ability where I work. I can transfer to any one of our 19 different geographical divisions or any number of specialized units including an air support unit that has over 20 helicopters working off of the largest rooftop heliport in the world. A world class dive unit, SWAT unit, Mounted unit, Motors, Traffic, Narcotics, Gangs, Vice, Anti-terroist unit, and a whole list of investigation units too long to list. Promotions are more abundant than in a smaller agency as well. Some places you have to wait for someone to die before you can move up. If promotion is your thing, you can be a sergeant in four years if you put your mind to it. Smaller agencies have their advantages as well. Many smaller departments give you more diversity than the specialization. The guy who was a K-9 last year, may be working detectives this year, and some multi agency task force next year. They sometimes pay better and have better equpment. Sheriff's departments sometimes require you to work a long time in custody. personally, this does not appeal to me but it may to others. State police can transfer anywhere in the state and federals can transfer anywhere in the country. It all just depends but the best department to work for in my opinion is the one that hires you. If after some time you find that you are still looking for something more, you can always look for another opportunity somewhere else.

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i don't know. but i wouldn't join a police froce only for the pay, but i would mainly do it to help the wrold be come a better plce to be.


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BCPS I know that the Texas Department of Public Saftey has many units but they also so highway patrol and giving tickets but they do also do alot of policecing of small towns in ehich the county sheriff has little man power. I will have to think about what I want and who has a big air unit (Houston, LAPD, LASD, CHP, TXDPS, etc.) Im not sure yet. Only the feature can tell.

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Easy question. The best one is the one you go into. Guess what, you are going to have to live your life for much longer than your father.

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If you're doing it for the pay then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.....BCPS brings up a great point - "Depends on what you want..." Maybe if you give a little more detail on what you want we could give you a better idea....

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The pay dosent really matter to me but I'd rather be able to do what I want with good pay rather than beaing with a different deparment and getting lower pay. Here is an example- Dallas Police has an opening for a Police Pilot so does Texas DPS (lets just say im qualifed for both jobs, I know thats not possible but just go with me). Dallas PD pays you $3,000.00 more than DPS. I'd go with Dallas. As for what I want, Id really like to get into an air unit quickly with fair pay (enough to keep food on the table) not a corrupt department, good reputation, and good mechanics!!!! GOOD Mechanics!!!!!! MUST HAVE FOR ANY AIR UNIT OR THE UNIT WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It looks as if you really wish to get into law enforcement to fly. If that is the case, and that is a great goal. The thing to do is to look at the departments that will give you the best opportunity to do so. If Dallas PD has an air unit but only has three or four helicopters, how competetive do you think it will be to get a spot there once you have been hired? The LAPD has an outstanding air support unit and they are not discriminatory as who they bring into the unit. What I mean by that is that you do not have to have a rotor license or even a fixed wing license to be given a spot as a pilot. LAPD trains all their own pilots themselves, right there in their own facility. I don't know, but how many other agencies do that? Then there is the type of flying that you will be doing. County Flying is a whole lot different than flying over a city of five million people. Which interests you more. We also have tactical flight officers (observers) who are not pilots but are the guy in the left seat. He does all the navigation, spotting for the ground units and the law enforcement communications. It is also a big job that requires them to be quick on their feet. I have seen our guys do some amazing stuff with those helicopters. Then there is the question of equipment. I notice in your avatar that your seated in a Bell Helicopter. Not a bad bird, but they are limited in what they are able to do. Our guys are all flying A-stars and they say the difference is like going from a Jeep to a Cadillac. If you really wish to fly and do law enforcement at the same time, the Alaska State Troopers are probably a great way to go. They have communities that you can only get to by air. So I would say that if that is your goal, check out the agancies that will give you the most opportunity to obtain that goal and don't limit yourself by geography. I am not a native Californian, I came here because this is where I got hired and really no other reason.

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You are going into it with the idea of being a helo pilot and I have no doubt that you are qualified to fly. You are not however qualified to be a pilot for a law enforcement agency. Have that goal in mind when you apply for a position but you will have to complete all the requirements of being an Officer first and then when you have enough experience AND there is an opening, AND you are selected not only by the department, but by your peers will you land this assignment. It's a great job and well worth going after so I wish you luck. A large city is probably where you will wish to go, one that has a large air contingent.

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I should have said that I have no doubt that 'you will be qualified to fly'. You have years ahead of you and a long time to determine which niche you will eventually fit into.

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Thanks! And umm...I am accutly sitting in an Schwitzer 333 of the San Antonio Police Department. If you look at my other pics you will the Brand Spakin New A-Star delivered to SAPD two monthes ago and you will also see one of Dallas's Bell Jet Ranger's. I hvae thought about going through Coast Gaurd flying or Helicopters because they go hand and han. Plus I will already get the S.A.R. and Night flying training with out NVG's (night vision goggles) I have seen pics of LAPD's UH-1 Huey's. Do they use those for anything aside from SWAT? O and where do they keep blue thunder?? Been looking for that. If they let me fly that there'd be no crime in the entire world!!!! (just kidding tho it would be pretty kick butt if they had and AH-64 Apache Attack Heliciopter!!!!!!!) Thank for that info. Do you knopw anything about CHP or LASD's air units??

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Robocop33- Thanks for the advice! This will all come in handy oin the future! Thanks!!!

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Bell, Schwitzer, whatever. I obviously don't know a whole lot aboout helicopters other than when I need one. Coast Gaurd does not seem to be a bad way to go either. I don't know much about LASO or CHP's air operations other than that they have them. I have gone up with our air unit a few times and always enjoyed myself for the change but I have always found the thrill of the hunt for me to be on the ground. Even our air unit is not easy to get into but those who have the drive seem to find the way. By the way, our UH-1 Huey was retired about six months ago, it was just getting too old to continue flying. Last I heard they were looking for a suitable replacement.

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If you want to look cool in front of the Air Support Guys, say look into something like the Bell 412 (its an upgraded huey with twin turbine engins and 4 rotor blades rather then 2) also suggest a UH-60 blackhawk (I doubt they will budge but its worth a try) Great helicopter. Dont forget to add the whine "but the US Customs Service flys the Blackhaw so then why cant we" If you do get one that would be super cool!! Thanks for all of the advice yall!

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Like they all say, it really depends on what you want and mainly where you intend to go in your career. Unless you fully investigate a small towns department, I would stick with the bigger towns and look into federal. Most small towns are limited by thier budget. They have some great officers, but the things they can do with extra training, equipment and specialty ops is all dependent on budget. You talked about customs, so it looks like you have been checking feds out. The one thing about fed is that once you get in the door, you can do a lateral transfer to any other fed agency. The pay is pretty decent, I started at 35 thou and now at 50 thou, I have been with the service going on 4 years now. I am coming up on another raise next month. Each department has its ups and downs, it mainly boils down too, where do you see yourself in 10 years? When you look at a department, that is what you ask yourself. I wish you all the luck. Take care and watch your six.

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if peter pan peanutbutter and jiffy peanutbutter cost the same wich peanutbutter is the best?

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if you can catch fish with worms or crickets what bait is the best?

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i prefer ford over chevy, is that wrong?

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Haha ODIN I like it...BigCountry I will look into Fed a little bit more. Id really like to not go to Border Patrol unless they can get me into the air unit fast. I know that US Park Police has an air unit so does DEA. Does anybody know aout ATF flying or do they use other peoples choppers (local agcenys, army, FBI) and does FBI have an haeicopter unit? BigCountry how bout the Marshel Service do they have an air unit or do they use the local unit??

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As for ODIN its alright that you like a chevy my dad works for GM. :) :)

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check again on my auto preferance, and im glad you didnt take offence.and if you can get on D.E.As helo team you wont care about money i swear. i have seen the best and they are fearless.

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Peter Pan because he has Disney rights. :P HAHA jk. It's a good way to put it actually. Besides, GH6912, each department may do different things. For example, my sheriff's dept doesn't do patrol work. We primarily do court security, civil service, jail security, etc. We have left the patrol work to the Fairfax PD. However, the next county over, Loudoun, they do it all.

Like BigCountry says, it's all in the budgeting too. If you are happy as a basic patrol with not alot of extra training to learn and get cool new gadgets, the smaller the town the better for that. You want to do every bit of training you can get your hands on, then the bigger the agency. Also, look at their training facilities! Fairfax County has their own where as other agencies use a "regional academy".


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Thaks yall. I will think about all of your suggestions. I will see what I can find about Federal Air Units.

Thanks!!!