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Just another question to help in considering career changes. As most know, law enforcement isn't a real high paying job. I've heard that it is not uncommon for LEO's to have to get a second or even third job to make ends meet. How often does this occur? How many of you have multiple jobs and what kind of jobs do you usually have to seek to supplement your income. After answering that, is it worth being a LEO. This question is obviously directed to those who are in this line of duty with money being no object and I imagine would apply to most.

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I am not an LEO, so I cannot answer most of it, but I can answer the last one.

"Is it worth being an LEO?"

Simply put, a better question is: "Is it worth doing that you really want to do?"

The answer will always be yes. Money ebbs and flows and can come and go as easily as the wind, but the choices you make and the future you set out for yourself are forever bonded to you. Seek out real happiness: the kind the comes from doing honest work, from doing what you love, from being with people who are like you. With a bit of care a person can manage even moderate money problems, but the emptiness you feel from doing something you don't want to doesn't merrily go away on its own; it grows and drags you down to a place where money cannot save you.

Trust me, choose the career you want over the career that pays well ad never regret it.

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Adam12, I like your screen name. I know a great many officers who have second jobs and they are not hard to come by here in LA. Most are working some kind of off duty security some place. The best moonlighting jobs I have seen are the officers who get into doing security for some of the major celebrities in town. They just go and sit at their house and make money for doing it. I have worked a few off duty gigs but never made a habit of it because I never wanted to need the extra money. Most who do work the off duty stuff here is not to make ends meet but to increase their standard of living. You know, Have a bigger house, a nicer boat, more expensive car. We make pretty good money here and can live on it comfortably, but some people want more. I think the ones who do it right though are the officers who are able to work the overtime for the department. You make more money hourly doing that than you will working a second job. Even the LAPD who is always complaining about the overtime has places that you can go to work it for some extra cash. Many other departments have forced overtime. A friend who works for the Riverside County Sheriff has been working six days a week on forced overtime. He is making a lot of money but he doesn't want it. He has the same philosophy that I do. I would rather spend my time at home with my family than sell that time away for a few bucks. I spend enough time at work.

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I just realized that I did not answer the second part of your question, is it worth it. That answer depends upon you. Some people get into law enforcement and hate it. Some love it. It all just depands upon you. If you get into the job because it is something that you have always wanted to do and want to do the job for the right reasons, it will be worth it. The job is very rewarding and for me personally, I can't see myself doing anything else.

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I dont really qualify for this but about the second part of you question BCPS is right. My dad had a friend growing up and all his friend ever wanted to do was be a cop. So when his friend was 17 has signed up for mall securty at the local mall. He hated it! People dis respected him so within one week he quite. He decided he wasent cut out to be an LEO. That reason is why I am trying the police explore post to see if I like and enjoy the job.

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While I was active I always had at least one other paying job in order to make ends meet. In addition I also attended Collage three nights a week and collected on my GI bill. The jobs consisted of working security at the local auditorium for concerts and the Wrestling programs. In addition I worked security at a store. Eventually I took over a mall as the head of security and had a dozen officers working for me there. To put it bluntly, I worked 7 days a week, usually 16 hrs a day and often more. Understand this was over 20 years ago and pay has gotten better but most officers I know still work extra whenever they can. You have to love being a LEO as it does become your life.

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I worked two jobs just about my entire adult life (not saying very long since i'm only 25) but prior to becoming LEO, i had to. Once I became LEO, pay increased and the ability to work OT at the dept was alot easier on me. So I've been quite known to "live at the jail" working so many hours that I'll literally only have 4 days off in the month. I don't exactly have a life outside of work, and I know I won't ever if I keep it up but it's been the quickest way to kill off the debt and strive to buy me a house. Eventually I'll move down to TX and become a road dawg instead of this jailbird and such. Is it worth it? Yes. I love what I do now, and I think I'll love being on the road in the future just the same. Do what you love and love what you do. It's worth it. Don't gotta be rich to be happy.


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Fortunately, my wife has a very good job and and makes twice as much as I do. We live comfortably but not beyond our means. I do work two seperate off duty jobs, but that is just for play money and they are when time permits (I am lucky enough to be able to write my own schedule). My hobby is expensive and the income from the two off duty gigs finance it.

BCPS hit the nail on the head. I believe that family comes first and will always pick "family time" over "work time."

No one gets into law enforcement to make their millions. Once you're in it, you're in it and it gets under your skin and in your blood. Again, like BCPS said: I can't see myself doing anything else.

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Most officers I know work second jobs. If you get into this line of work for the money, you have already made the wrong choice.

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I live in Maryland and I live close to Baltimore A few officers have told me the reasons for them working part time jobs. My opinion has always been that they're living outside of their means and need the extra income. I know I'm probably very ignorant for stating that (ignorant being uneducated.) For that I apologize. However that's mostly the reasons the few officers I've talked to have stated.

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BCPS, your friend who is on with Riverside Sheriff's Dept...where is he working? That's the department that I was hired on with, and I found out a couple days ago I'll be working out of the SouthWest Detention Center. From what I've heard as well the overtime is a ridiculous (forced) amount.

Adam12, my best friend is a local police officer, just recently got married and bought a house. He was a deputy for a previous dept and then transferred a little over one year ago. He's never had to work an extra gig yet; the local dept's down here in SoCal (LASO, RSO, RPD, CPD, etc) have amazing amounts of overtime and so if you need the extra cash they're more than willing to give you the OT (and even if you don't want the extra cash, like BCPS said, they'll still give you the OT). I think that the biggest thing out here is living within your means; knowing how much you can afford to spend and how much you need to save, and then doing exactly that. I can't accurately answer the "is it worth it?" question because I start the academy in a little less than three weeks. However, from the outside looking in...it looks very good.

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Wk21085, allow me to educate you why LEO's are required to "live above their income". One it is because the income is below average. Two, a LEO is not allowed to drive a junky car or anything that isn't clean and in better shape than others. If he does, he is a 'disgrace' to his department. A LEO is not allowed to live in an area with cheap rent or cheaper housing for a number of reasons, one being simply appearances because is he does, he is trash and not good enough to be a cop in the eyes of the public. He also can't live there as he would always have people at his door demanding he do something about whatever problems were in the area. His wife and kids are supposed to have nice new clothes and look and act perfect, he is not allowed to go into debt or be late on any payments, He must always look like he stepped out of a 1950's sit-com and be the perfect family. That is what the public expects of him and even demands of him, yet they don't pay him enough to do this.LEO's always live under the watchful and critical eye of the public.

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I currently work for a small department. Although our city is small, we are very busy and usually pull more calls then our larger surrounding agencies. We don't get paid very well and currently have officers that would qualify for government assistance. You would think that this would make our city council take another look at our pay, but they don't. Being that it is a small town, there are very few jobs that we as LEOs can get. I mean how would it look if you gave out a citation one night and the next your asking that same person if they want to super size their order.

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I guess I forgot to finish the question, we all do it because we love what we do. True LEOs don't do it for the money, glory, or to be a hero. Like GTS197, it does get in your blood and once you're in it there is nothing else that compares. Money doesn't by you everything only material things. The things that matter have no price. As long as you have a good support system, like your family that is all you need. If you can't live without all the material things, then don't get into LE.

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Robocop thank you for that perspective I never thought about it that way. That also explains how all these police officers in my area drive the 50K vehicles the Escalades the Lincoln Aviators,Navigators with the tricked out rims. I've also forgotten about the High divorce rate that goes along with the territory. *ducks bullets flying my way for possibly striking a nerve* I've spoken with police officers who are on their 3rd wife or 2 ex's and a Girlfriend now. They have kids and what not. So yeah I can see them getting more than 1 job.

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On my days off I work for the transit department (CTA). When I'm really lucky they cancel my days off and send me to another part of the city to work. A lot of my co-workers also work security gigs on the side

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Our department is lucky enough to have some business in the area hire us to do off-duty security details. It's a pretty cool gig because you make more than what we make in OT. (Not to mention OT in our department is a 4-letter word. We work short on shift to keep from calling in people. Our entire city is like that right now.) I usually only work it once or twice a month, because most of my time is taken up by family.

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Don't know where you live dude but none of my brother officers drove gaudy vehicles that were tricked out or pimped up. You are right about the divorce rate though, I have been married three times. This one has lasted over 20 years because I have been retired that long. The daily stress on both the Officer and their spouse is tremendous and does terrible things to a marriage. It is hard to tell your wife that one day you were bored out of your mind with a slow day and the next day you saw someone who put a shotgun to their head and scattered their head all over the living room, and you picked up a lifeless. bloody child out of a wrecked vehicle. They simply do not understand like your fellow brothers in blue can, and you don't want them to. You need to stop being so critical of LEO's and learn a bit more about what they do on a daily basis to learn to appreciate them.

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Right Robocop, I have found that life is totally different for those who work in law or even considering it. I know that my husbands and his friends have been very critical of what I want to do. I have been ridiculed for my knowledge of criminal justice and have been told why in the hell would anyone want to know that kind of stuff. I tell them it’s my calling and I leave it at that. As for the tricked out rides, yea I drive a car with 20 in rims, but this is because my husband makes really good money and works in the auto motive. But never judge an officer this way because their spouse could be making the cash as well.... It really is not the money or the things they own its the personal rewards they get at the end of the day.


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i dont drive the right kind of car, or stay married, or live in a nice house or send my son to a private school, because of the public or other l.e.os opinionof me. i have a second job, and my wife works so that we can give our child a better life. and law enforcement is not the only job with a high divorce rate. most officers tend not to express there thoughts with their spouse. divorce is not ok in my opinion , and i have heard many times that officers believe that it is the job their spouse cant handle, when most of the time it is the officer that thet cant stand.

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Hey Odin nice to see you! I agree with you regardless of what we all do it should not matter what we drive or do. I know that my husband and I bust our a**es off to have the things we have. I can at least say my husband and I make an honest living and our children have what they need... Life is not about competing or the things you have it’s about what you make out of it...


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it seems as if you tell someone that you are divorced, then say but im a cop it should be understood, or ok. that is the wrong thing to put out there. there are enough urban legends out here about cops. most are untrue. thanks for the nice to see you. i have been getting emails from the owner stating that people where wining to him about me saying hurtfull things, as if i would do such a thing.

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Shaking my head.... What a joke! I have said something’s in here and no one has nailed me about it yet! Maybe its because I’m not LEO, but to hell with that I don’t feel like your doing anything wrong and trust me I have read all the arguments.... at least your not like that david101, boy that kid had some problems.... Sad! About the divorce thing I agree, my husband and I have been having problems but it’s not about what I want to do. I think it add stress too it but it’s not the reason. Right now we are just on 2 different pages and there’s a lot more to it... But yes I have always said I will only marry once and if I happen to get divorce that’s it never again. (Maybe but it’ll take a lot) But yes because being an LEO is not an excuse.... As for the complaints take it as a gain of salt, they'll get over it, or just don’t reply back to them… ;)


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im glad that the cry babys are coming out , it lets me know that people dont want to hear from the real police. a true police officer isnt going to care what i post, and non leos dont want the cold truth, they seem to want it spoon fed to them with a nice smile and a sugar tongue. im not that type of guy.

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Yeah I picked that up and the also picked up the respect you have for you wife. You know I have to learn the hard way. I came from a poor family, things I own I got on my own. My parents never have co-singed or bought me a car. However they have been there when I need them for support. Everything I have had to deal with really has been hard. I have asked many officers for advice and seems like I don’t get any where with them. I remember when I’m brother went thought the academy and how he struggled with the cold shoulders or hearts for say. I’ve seen it first hand. As a civilian I would like to see the cold side of things, and then I make my own choice. I'm half way done with my degree and have had professors research my papers because there are things I have taught them that they did not know. At first I was insulted but it just shows me that this line of work is a never ending learning experience which I like...


“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”
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not at all

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the majority of the comment's are on the $ ( no pun intended !) most officer's make plenty of money and if their salary is smalll they can alway's go to a larger dept. for more money....everyone will grabbed some ot around the holiday's or summer months to help out with vacations...and or gifts !!!

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Robocop I'm not being critical by anymeans I'm sorry if you thought that I was. I'm also near Baltimore. As far as the Tricked out vehicles I didn't take into account the other person who lives in the house. For that if i Offended anyone oops. It wasn't my intention. However seeing cops with escalades raises eyebrows everyone has to admit that they don't think maybe they're a high ranking officer in their respective department OR they've saved up for it. We *all* jump to conclusions. You find me someone that doesn't jump to any conclusions I'll appologize. (no biblical examples either)

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I have several PRN & P/T jobs. Most are by choice. I work as a paramedic on the ambulance. I work P/T in the local ICU & Cardiac Telemetry. I do pick up security work from time to time. Extra jobs are nice during the holiday seasons and are readily available to LEO. I have enjoyed working in the medical field for years. Not sure what I want to be when I grow up...

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Girlpopo, I hope you are right about what you say. I can only tell you that 20 yrs ago when I was active our pay stunk and there was no such thing as overtime. If you had to work over, or were called in, that was just the way it was and no compensation was given, not even time off. If you wanted to make extra you worked security at some store or mall if you could get in or worked a concert. We didn't even get to work off-duty at construction work sites in units for money like I know they do here in Florida. I certainly hope the pay has gotten much better now.

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