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I just enlisted in the Marine Corps as a 5811, MP.  I ship out to boot camp on the 27th of April and can't wait!  I was torn between MP and Infantry but settled on MP because of the real world applications of the job and the fact that many people I've spoken with say that MPs actually see the most combat for a support position outside of Infantry.


 


I keep hearing "convoy security" and "small unit offensive and defensive missions" in the job description.


 


So my question is, for any former Marine or Army MPs out there, will I get to see combat on my deployments??  Please be as detailed as you can.  I'm still a pully so I have no clue what to expect but I've been doing a ton of research!


 


Thanks guys


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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Loop22, I was in the Navy as an Aviation Ordnanceman, but I worked TAD in security and investigations with our NCIS agent, so I know navy MP/SP.  If you can, become a dog handler.  I have a couple of friends that are handlers and they love it.  It keeps them out of the heat and at the embasies.  Back on base you will be a military police officer, handling calls just like regular police and standing watch also.  Lots and lots of watches.  Learn your ranks, especially officer ranks andhow to identify them by their base stickers and remember to salute when on sentry duty.


Its hard to say if you will see combat on any deployments.  Thats like saying am I going to win the lottery.  You could or it can be a very quiet nite.  You will always have tobe on alert though.  IED's are everywhere.  A bit of advice, take all the training you can get.  Its free and can definately help you.  Another one is cautions are there because someone got hurt, warnings are written in blood.  Remember that.


You made a great choice picking MP over regular infantry.   Be safe and take care.


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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Im currently deployed as an Army MP and yes...you will be seeing combat.  The main tasking of military police in the combat zones of Afghanistan and Iraq are "battlefield security"...ie convoy logistics patrols (convoy security), mounted combat patrols (presence patrols in sector), PSD missions (VIP protection), force protection (base security) or you may find yourself doing something along the lines of detainee operations or you may find yourself advising Iraqi/Afghan Army or Iraq/Afghan police.


Its not infantry, those are the guys doing dismounted (foot) patrols in sector, kicking in doors for hostage rescue missions, direct action missions, or MiTT/Imbed teams (imbedded with Iraqi/Afghan security forces.)

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by the way, dont underestimate the infantry.  Those guys are the smartest Soldiers I know.  They have to think on their feet, have superior knowledge of tactics and weapon systems, engage the most in physical combatives, do the most tactical training, see the most combat, go to the most schools...etc etc.


Ill always hold that infantry, special operations, civil affairs, intelligence, and psychological operations warfare are the best feeder mos' in the military for civilian LE

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by the way, dont underestimate the infantry.  Those guys are the smartest Soldiers I know.  They have to think on their feet, have superior knowledge of tactics and weapon systems, engage the most in physical combatives, do the most tactical training, see the most combat, go to the most schools...etc etc.


Ill always hold that infantry, special operations, civil affairs, intelligence, and psychological operations warfare are the best feeder mos' in the military for civilian LE


 


Thats good to hear.  I want to fight.  I know everyone probably says that but when the bullets start coming, they change their minds.


 


I was talking with one of the other recruiters at the office who was enlisted as a motor T.  He said after his 1st deployment, he volunteered for a second as an infantryman and they gave him the opportunity.  He had to train for 6 months prior to his deployment and then went over as a riflemen.


Is that possible or is he bs'ing like some recruiters do?


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Could be several things.  Both in the Army and in the USMC your first job is as a rifleman, thats why we learn basic infantry skills in initial entry trainnig  Many Soldiers and Marines of many different MOS' find themselves in front line combat in this style of war....4th Generation or Asymmetric Warfare...there are no front lines basically.  One of our platoons that does convoy security in the battery is made up of 88M's...truck drivers/haulers.


Dont know if he reclassed to infantry or he simply filled an infantry slot or simply had a shooters job downrange.  One thing is for sure, if you deploy downrange and you leave  the wire as part of your overall mission, youre going to get bombed and shot at.

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Could be several things.  Both in the Army and in the USMC your first job is as a rifleman, thats why we learn basic infantry skills in initial entry trainnig  Many Soldiers and Marines of many different MOS' find themselves in front line combat in this style of war....4th Generation or Asymmetric Warfare...there are no front lines basically.  One of our platoons that does convoy security in the battery is made up of 88M's...truck drivers/haulers.


Dont know if he reclassed to infantry or he simply filled an infantry slot or simply had a shooters job downrange.  One thing is for sure, if you deploy downrange and you leave  the wire as part of your overall mission, youre going to get bombed and shot at.



Ok, i'm still a pully so what does downrange and leave the wire mean?  I don't know what he did but he had to go through 4 months of training in addition to his 2 months predeployment training.


I'm just worried that if MPs do all this combat on their deployments, well, we're not as trained as infantry so if i'm going to be doing the dirty work, i might as well get all the training i can.


 


I guess its something I'll just figure out when I get in and see how things work. 

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Good luck Loop22! My brother is a Marine and we have a mutual friend who is an MP in the USMC, he is on the SWAT team and is still stationed in the US after being being there for over a year.  He didn't enjoy being a regular MP but loves SWAT.


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ya i definetly want to try out for that! they call it SRT though, same thing.


 


I also heard that K9 dog handler is amazing too.


 


I just want to get the most out of my experience...learn the ropes of law enforcement, kick some ass, get some schooling done and get the whole experience under my belt.


Thanks for the well wishes.

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hey Loop22!! congrats on getting into the DEP program for the USMC, i also just got in, and ill be shippin out 26 May of this year. im happy to hear you're goin MP and that you got your contract all straight. just make sure it's in black and white before you ship!! my recruiter had to pull a couple strings for me and get a waiver from the CO cuz the cut off for a female MP is 5'5'', and i hit that height exactly. lol anywho... good luck to you!! it's a great way to explore and become everything you want to be and more. my brother was in the Corps and did his time in Iraq. Marines have a lot of respect for the Corps MP's, so im sure you won't be butting heads with any of them. lol just do your best, and become all that you can be, God's speed, and SEMPER FI!!

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ya i definetly want to try out for that! they call it SRT though, same thing.


 


I also heard that K9 dog handler is amazing too.


 


I just want to get the most out of my experience...learn the ropes of law enforcement, kick some ass, get some schooling done and get the whole experience under my belt.


Thanks for the well wishes.



Right, its SRT or SORT...depending on what unit youre in.  And the school is at Ft. Leonard Wood...both Phase I and Phase II.  Youll find many of the schools that youll go to in the USMC are Army schools with mixed Army, Marine, and Navy personnell.....airborne, SRT, Ranger, Pathfinder, HALO, MP, Armor etc etc

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I was an MP in the USMC and the chances of you deploying as a MP are extremely high. I just got out in 2006 and they were starting to hire civilians to do the garrison MP job (base security and law enforcement duties) so the Marines could concentrate more on combat. In order to be with K-9 you have to be chosen after going in front of a board. You must have a 300 PFT and its best if you are an expert with the rifle and the pistol. Make sure you have high Pro/Con marks. You will be competing for the positions. And when they open up K-9 or SRT slots there is usually a lot of Marines that put in for it. K-9 is deffinately a fun aspect of being an MP. And they deploy to the middle of the crap also. (who do you think is sniffing out the IED). Anyway goodluck you have a long road ahead of you and none of it is going to be easy but when you accomplish everything it is all worth it. Just keep in mind if you are wanting specialties like K-9 and SRT and other things, every desicion you make could effect that. So make sure they are good ones and you will be just fine. Let me know if you have any other questions reguarding the 5811 MOS or the Corps. I will try to help you with whatever. Simper Fi

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

thanks for all the advice and support guys! I met today with the CO for my recruiting area and him and I had a long talk.  I'm still somewhat torn between the 58 field and 03 infantry field.  I know i'll end up doing MP but i just don't want to be thinking "what if".


 


Also, the Col. said today that if i decided i wanted to go into the 03 field a little while after the fact, that its a simple and easy transition and that they're always willing to take in new grunts hehe.


 


I guess its MP for now and we'll see what happens!


Oorah and thanks again guys

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Loop22, Just a heads up.... Do not beleive everything your recruiters say. I am serving as an 0311 I am a Corporal. I have been down that road with the recruiters. Do not beleive them as to you can switch your job that easily. And you will have to go through SOI. (School of Infantry) if you make the switch. As for MP to Infantry. I say the Infantry is wonderful. As with some of the posts I have seen they are good information wise. Yes, Tatically we have ALOT of training. Most of it is on lower levels. From Sgt's and Cpl's. If you want to have a job where your busy as hell sometimes and doing nothing other times the infantry is not a bad place to be. You can always be busy though through self improvement. As for Mp's most all of us hate mp's. Mostly because they spoil what fun marines like to have. And yet I am reinlisting this year and transitioning into the Military Police. Only to be set up for when i leave the military. The infantry does not set you up for many things outside of the military. So if you are not planning on making a career out of it i would look hard into Mp. I hope this helps.


 

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...Its not infantry, those are the guys doing dismounted (foot) patrols in sector, kicking in doors for hostage rescue missions, direct action missions, or MiTT/Imbed teams (imbedded with Iraqi/Afghan security forces.)



NOW when you say


Its not infantry, those are the guys doing dismounted (foot) patrols in sector, kicking in doors for hostage rescue missions, direct action missions, or MiTT/Imbed teams (imbedded with Iraqi/Afghan security forces.)


are u saying its the MPS that do that OR THE  infantry that kick in the doors and stuff cause thats what i want to to aswell

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Then go infantry. Either in the Army or the Marines, the job of the infantry is close combat, direct action, the infantry of either branch is the tip of the spear in which all other units line up to support..including the artillery, armor, combat engineers, air assets, etc etc....even SOF missions are geared towards the overall success of regular infantry.


MPs duties while deployed are "battlefield security" and detainee operations. 

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Loop - if you have not shipped yet, listen up...  It is easier to go down in MOS than it is to go up.  Meaning it will be easier to go from 5811 MP to 0311 Grunt.  Typically, the higher the MOS # is the higher ASVAB scores you require.  5811 vs 0311.  Remember that EVERY Marine is a basic rifleman 1st & foremost. 


I served as a 5811 & a 6114 Helicopter Mechanic, UN/AH-1  (Huey/Cobra).  I enjoyed both MOS's and it was "delightful".  I preferred the mission as an MP more so than anything else.  It is tough.  Focus & stay strong!

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HI, I have some questions regarding the Marine Corps Mps. Im currently 3 weeks away from finally enlisting in the DEP. I would LOVE to be an MP. But at the same time i heard i couldn't get a 4x4 contract? I asked my recruiter and he said he would look into it but hes currently out of state and i havent been able to talk to him. I also talked to someone else who stressed that 4x4 contracts for MPs have been eliminated and nno longer available. So basically I'd like to know if i can enlist in the Marines as an mp with a 4x4 coontract?

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Loop - if you have not shipped yet, listen up...  It is easier to go down in MOS than it is to go up.  Meaning it will be easier to go from 5811 MP to 0311 Grunt.  Typically, the higher the MOS # is the higher ASVAB scores you require.  5811 vs 0311.  Remember that EVERY Marine is a basic rifleman 1st & foremost. 


I served as a 5811 & a 6114 Helicopter Mechanic, UN/AH-1  (Huey/Cobra).  I enjoyed both MOS's and it was "delightful".  I preferred the mission as an MP more so than anything else.  It is tough.  Focus & stay strong!



 


You an ignorant idiot who is a POG.



Shock, it really seems that most of the Marines I see/hear talking really seem to identify with the infantry more than they do their own MOS'.  Its odd when I see Marine clerks, mechanics, finance...etc etc mos' talking as if they are infantryman. We had 2 in my academy class, one was infantry who had served on a FAST team, been in Iraq twice, was drawing disability, and another who was an MP..who didnt deploy, who was called back from the inactive ready reserve but got out of it because he argued that he was in the academy and had a kid on the way. The infantry Marine hated that guy...I mean really hated him...to the point where we as a class got spoken to by the commanders, the Chief of the academy (as you know a former Air Force security police Airman and Vietnam vet), a LT from one of the agencies who sponsered cadets at the academy...etc etc. The MP Marine talked up the Corps more than the infantry Marine did, but never served overseas and got out of a combat deployment.


One big difference in the Army and the Marines, the Army pogs keep their mouths shut and know they are not combat arms...Marine pogs act like the hardest men in the world....from their desks.


Ill always be partial to the infantry, the cavalry, armor, artillery, special operations, combat engineers....I guess Im just biased like that. Everyone is part of the machine, and the machine is intricate and it needs all parts to operate and no one is worth more than the next man, however, everyone has their role and when people start throwing rocks....they really look silly when that glass house just shatters and everyone on the block sees it.

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and I dont mean to sound anti-support and definately would NEVER run down any member of the military. an Army needs bullets, beans, boots provided by the logisticians to keep the machine running, it needs its medics and medical corps, it needs its cooks to feed, chaplains to keep up the morale...its a well oiled machine. But certainly, if your job is to keep the MRAPS or the Bradley's running, dont make yourself sound like a battle hardened airborne infantryman. I just detest the idea of "stolen valor."


And funny you mentioned DELTA...lol...Ill email you offline about the story behind that one!


Im off to work bro, one last shift until I get my 2 days off...2 days with no call outs...no long shifts..nothing...total rest!!!!!


Have a good one man!

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It's been my experience that the Bigger the tale, the more likely it is that it's someone elses story. Not that it didn't happen. Just didn't happen to them, When you gotta dig for even a little bit of info, that's the guys who have stories to tell, and you'll never hear them.

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It's been my experience that the Bigger the tale, the more likely it is that it's someone elses story. Not that it didn't happen. Just didn't happen to them, When you gotta dig for even a little bit of info, that's the guys who have stories to tell, and you'll never hear them.



well said...who wants to relive seeing peoples heads come apart day after day after day

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Well, since you did ask about Marine or Army MP duties, I can speak to the Army side of things. MP functions have changed in the Army over the past few years. Understand that there are two VERY different sides to being in the service and your job. One is garrison (meaning not deployed, just stationed somewhere) and the other is mobilized or deployed duty (off to war). In garrison, MPs were police officers. Pure and simple. A military base is a fully functional, self sustained TOWN. No different than anywhere else, except for different rules and laws...and no sales tax haha. Common duties were traffic, 911 calls, hell...everything a normal municipal cop would do. Even had our own K-9 units. And if you think soldiers are all upstanding gentleman and ladies, just remember that people are people. Soldiers get drunk, alot. There are a ton of bar fights. On Fort Wainwright (alaska), a Sergeant First Class (E-7, very respectable rank) got busted for having a meth lab in his basement of his government housing. People are people, and MPs are police. HOWEVER, nowadays, MP's in the Army have a different role. Department of Defense Police now patrol the base, because so many soldiers are deployed constantly and serving overseas. In war time, your role as an MP is physical security (anytime there is a gathering of people, a public event, a military operation, etc. etc. - crowd control), kicking in doors (searches for weapons), cage kicking (guarding POWs), and convoy security (securing a line of vehicles moving from A to B). Also, providing a security for another unit to conduct its operations, usually infantry. Noone in, noone out. Provide cover.


Back in garrison NOW for Army MPs means training, training, training for deployed functions.


I cant imagine the Marine MPs are much different in their roles.


 


Another note. Youre going to be a Marine Military Police Officer. Did you see the last two words? You will find that hanging out off duty with other MPs is more...desirable. You'll eat with other MPs, party in the barracks with other MPs, and such. You'll understand why later. The distain for MPs is very similiar to the way civilians treat LEOs. They treat you differently. And it can be a real pain in the butt. You will see the blotter report (crime for the week, current charges, etc.) - and you will know things, inside details in to the lives of other soldiers. You will see them at their worst, responding to calls where they got drunk and beat their wife. Then youll stand in line for chow behind the same soldier. He'll look at you, you at him. Noone else knows beyond the command but you and him. Its that sort of stuff that will make you feel, well, different. Welcome. 


 


If you want a real resume for when you get out, go to school. I finished my AAS on active duty - and they paid for it. Because you're enlisting now, post 9-11, your GI Bill works in a marvelous way. You go to any school, and you never even SEE tuition. You get a voucher for the bookstore for your class materials. AND on top of it all, a 500$ a month stipend. You will get paid to go to college. Do you know how many people are in debt because of school? Not you. You're covered. But the money you have to go to school while IN the military doesnt TOUCH your GI Bill funds. ITs FREE. USE IT MARINE. Many people would give their right leg for a free ride (that you earned) in school. DO NOT PASS IT UP. I URGE YOU, as I did all of my soldiers as a team leader. If you leave 4 years of military service without a 2 year degree SHAME on you. And in your first year, finance will offer you an option to have 100 bucks a week come out of your 2 week paycheck for one year....that adds 20 grand to your 50 in the GI Bill. Now, sir, Im no financial genious but....52 weeks in a year, 100 a week is 5,200 dollars. They give you 20,000 for that. You will not find a better investment. 


And be a good MP. Take EVERY damn training course offered. I have over 900 hours of professional development, and literally 47 training certificates. I leave most off of my resume because it makes it about 4 pages long. TAKE EVERYTHING THEY OFFER. Consider applying to the CID, thats Criminal Investigation Division. Army detectives. Bust soldiers for drugs undercover and other fun stuff that will land you a hell of a job when you get out. Its competetive and I dont know how the Marines do it, but in the Army they have internships you can apply for. Keep your nose clean. Stay out of bars. Youll be going for a Top Secret Clearance and the only thing that matters is attention to detail and HONESTY. Do not lie. They dont give a crap if you smoked pot in high school, just dont lie about it. The point of the clearance isnt how much of an angel you are, just that you can be trusted, and not to lie.


 


Also, as far as boot camp. Keep your head up, do what your told and dont volunteer for anything. If the Drill doesnt know your name at graduation, you did a good job haha. Be part of a team. Everyone finishes together should be your mission in mind.


And be proud. You have made a choice that you will be glad you did for years to come. Hooah. Or in your new language, Oorah.


 


Good luck, Marine.


Ernest Hemingway once said, "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for." I agree with the second half.

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 I have been quite curious and couldnt find a straight answer anywhere else, but how hard is it to become a Marine Military Police Officer? I know there is a certain ASVAB score you need to receive but other then that what other qualifications are needed? 


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