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Not a good time to be in Corrections

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Posted over 5 years ago

 

At least it's not a good time for Washington State...


http://www.kndu.com/global/story.asp?S=9649567


 


Are there any other facilities doing cuts? We just got done hiring a lot of employees to support the expansion at WSP...now suddely they're talking about laying off over 100 officers (just at WSP alone).


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I dont think I have ever heard of a C.O. getting laid off in NJ. Come to think of it I have never seen a street Cop get laid off until recently, one of our local townships had huge budget cuts and let a few guys go. Other then that it rarely happens here, hope all works out for you guys, cutting Officers in jails is never  a good idea. It doesnt slow down the rate dirtbags come into the facilities.

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

Not at the jail I work at....Heck we have a hard time keeping the positions filled that we are supposed to have, our comp time is through the roof with most officers averaging 40 to 80 hours on the rolls. The shifts never run short so if your on stand by you pretty much count on getting called in.

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We have had non custody staff layoffs but, not  for CO's. The bad news is we have people transfer to other institutions, our hiring pool is bursting but, the academy is currently SHUT DOWN. YEP I said shut down. The almighty dollar peddlers must not have corrections in mind but they sure love our police! The Hwy patrol just got a nice $700k from the governor to fight drug crime as well as $300k to many other police & sheriffs depts. for the smae thing. They bring the dirt bags in but we have to deal with them. Where's our compensation? We are running on bare minimum staff for each shift & often officers are "forced" to work over to cover our shortages. On top of this we recieving word that we will be accepting level 3 inmates as of January 1st. Tisk Tisk this is why facilites are in the middle of no where... out of sight, out of mind.


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Just to follow up on what happened 8 months ago...our superintendant walked into our academy classes still in progress and cut them loose- then made about 70 people tranfer or become "non-permanant" employees.


They've shut down towers and about a dozen possitions. A friend that I convinced to quit his job and come work for DOC was in the academy that got let go...now they're talking about shutting down McNeil Island and the entire East Complex of WSP.


 


Looks like I'm going to start applying heavily at departments on the coast....which means I will have to move and will probably have to leave my wife at our current city until she's between her quarter of school or until I'm done with the Academy (whichever is later). Bah!


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Riot, this move on your administrations part seems to me just retarded. I dont know what its like on the west coast but out here on th east when you shut down prisons/wings and pack em in tighter and let Officers go your just askin for trouble. Kepp us posted and best of luck to you and your fellow Officers


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 Riot that does not surprise me one bit. Our ratio is going to go from 80 to 1 to 160 to 1 with a drastic increase in workload because our new director and unelected gov want to give the inmates more and us less........... He's recently stated that he wants to close a facility and return our super max inmates to population- and drastically cut staff. He's also implemented a BS plan to release thousands of inmates early- we are sending over 100 a week home early with good time they didn't earn! 


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Here in NC, they are shutting down 7 facilities state wide due to budget cuts. Some officers will be able to transfer to other facilities to fill vacant positions, but there will still be a lot that will loose their jobs all together. My facility was on that list to be closed, but thankfully was taken off at the last minute.


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HapkidoKa says ...



 Riot that does not surprise me one bit. Our ratio is going to go from 80 to 1 to 160 to 1 with a drastic increase in workload because our new director and unelected gov want to give the inmates more and us less........... He's recently stated that he wants to close a facility and return our super max inmates to population- and drastically cut staff. He's also implemented a BS plan to release thousands of inmates early- we are sending over 100 a week home early with good time they didn't earn! 



 


HapkidoKa are you from California? It was rumored a while back that Missouri had one of the top re-entry programs in the country & was among the top 5 in lowest recividism rates. You'd never be able to tell that with the 40+ R&Os we get almost daily!


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Nope I'm right next door to you in good ol' IL.


 


Our director is pitching to the media that he's releasing convicts with 1 year or less on electronic monitoring and that they will be supervised closer by parole and have to attend certain programs. BS! There is no electronic monitoring our parole agents have workloads that are too hard to manage as is and the only program they will take is a BS mandatory class that all our convicts have to take prior to release. It's a joke. A few of those being released early are 1st timers (to the state joint) but a lot of them have been doing time since before I was born!


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

Oh wow, i didn't think you were that close. Yeah its about the same here to when it comes to rumors of pre-release on electronic monitoring. Its all a load of BS. I interviewed for a spot  in our Probabtion & Parole division but didn;t make it. They don't like promoting COs over people already in P&P. Last I checked we were all on the same team? Oh well, the action is behind the fences anyway & its beginning to ramp up do to the holiday season.


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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

I think everyone is feeling the crunch. Private companies have been closing at an alarming rate. In Nevada the CO's are working in very harsh conditions.

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 It's getting tough throughout the country. Everyone stay alert, watch your 6 and be safe.


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HapkidoKa says ...



 It's getting tough throughout the country. Everyone stay alert, watch your 6 and be safe.



Bump! The big bosses don't give a shit if you live or die. You and the guy (or gal) make sure you end the shift together, get home safe to the ones who do care!


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Riot is there any update on your situation?


The DOC in KY has not been doing a lot of layoffs but they surely are not helping us with funding.

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Riot is there any update on your situation?


The DOC in KY has not been doing a lot of layoffs but they surely are not helping us with funding.



They did the cuts and now they're talking about shutting down half of WSP (one unit at a time).


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oh wow I hate to hear that. Hope it works out for you.

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I work in local corrections, and it's hitting hard there as well. Our department just laid off three C/O's at the end of November '09.

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sorry to hear that Shane...My department recently lost two officers who where unfortunately dirty c/o's...I have senority on my side as I have been there since before the Facility even opened but hopefully they dont cut us.

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My jail has actually been hiring recently, that isn't good to hear jails and prisons laying off officers.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

governor's address last week wants to cut state workers pay by 5 %. it took us years just to get above poverty level.


freezes are on but the MCSO is hiring about 50. thousands of applicants applied. i believe there is talk of opening a CCA building in PRESCOTT, AZ . they are going to hire persons with experience.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

 Riot,


I work over at WSR in Monroe and I remember hearing about all the lay-offs at WSP.  That is a huge hit to take to DOC and the community, 100 CO's out of work is hard.  The Superintendent over here walked into our Academy and let go of 12 CO's out of 16.  They way he decided to let them go was by their latest test scores.  Whoever had the lowest scores were getting let go.  There has been a handful of positions over here closed down but not nearly as bad as at WSP.  I have not heard of anymore job cuts at WSP lately so hopefully none more will come.  The focus now is on McNeil Island.  


McNeil Island has already closed down part of their prison and sent them (inmates) over to Monroe minimum security camp.  There is (I believe) a State Rep. out of the Spokane area that is very gung ho trying to close down M.I.  The state says that the ferry system is charging them too much money to and from the island, but the state owns the ferry system!!!  


WA state last year took away $200mil of funding for our healthcare and our healthcare cost tripled in some areas.  And if some of the funding is not put back in, our healthcare costs will go up even more.  For non uniform staff their personal holiday will be taken away and they are forcing them to take a furlough day through out the year.  


My plan is/was to stick it out for 5 years and become vested with the state so I can keep the state retirement contributions.  But something must have changed because now the only way for me to keep the states contributions is to retire with them at the age of 65.  That means I would have to work for them for another 33 years for me to keep the retirement.  If I leave before that I still keep my contributions but not the states.  Sorry not worth it.  


Sorry about my rant but I just had to say something here.   


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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

My state is trying to cut 15 million out of the budget for Corrections alone. This means that the institution I work for & the level 5 Camp down the hill will possibly share a perimeter patrol officer. Yes they are actually thinking about this. They already took our glocks away & the AR-15s from the tower officers. The possiblity & fear of prisons shutting down is a growing threat as well. So far they've only cut NON-custody staff but if the going gets rough they'll probably start cutting uniforms too. :o(


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*update*


They plan on hiring more officers and re-opening a previously closed down unit (Unit 5) at WSP to make an intake unit this side of the state.


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 That is great news!!!  Do you know how many will be hired?  Will they start with the officers that were laid off?


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Hey good news Riot! You guys be safe out there! 


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I'm in Southwestern Ohio. I left a state prison here, in July of 2008, and they were to cut $16 million at that time. I have heard of custody staff getting let go in Ohio, but had not seen it at the prison where I was(only non-custody). You'd think, by simply watching the news, that a prison would be pretty good job security(just as any LEO job) but nope!

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Rate This | Posted about 4 years ago

 

Folks,There are some cut backs or layoffs that companys/corporations can still maintain a good amount of
productivity,However,Trying to cut employees/security staff is never a good idea and will nip you in the butt
and on the serious side cost several lives.Security is the essential staff of every institution.

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*2nd Update*


Looks like they hired the new C/Os in WSP to cut down on overtime (they kept them as "on-call")...Unit 5 opening is still a rumor and Secretary Elden Vail (Secretary of Prisons) came out with an e-mail stating that they plan to do more cuts of possitions (Kitchen, Recreation, ect.) and they plan on cutting our pay by about 5%.


If our economy is getting better, I sure as heck am still skeptical.


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 I just don't understand why our DOC is continuing to hire several CO's but is giving us all pay cuts.  While every other department that I know of has hiring freezes and/or a few lay offs they are not getting pay cuts.  They are trying to cut us more than 5%, more like 20% pay cut if the state gets their way.  I have no idea why our wonderful governor says that by giving us pay cuts it will help our economy.  


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