Whats up mike?

Out of curiosity, is your breacher your #1 man in the stack?

I think that if I had a 5 man element instead of a 4 man element, Id use the 5th man as the breacher while 4 in the stack go in before him....with the team leader either in the #3 or #4 position. Have personally never used someone in a particular position based on height or body size.  Have your written that as part of your TAC-SOP?

Also curious, did each mean purchase his own weapons and gear or did you get the senior officer in your agency to get the department to float the bill? Were you able to get any sort of DHS grants?

I agree with PSD. With only 5 your limited to certain things. For us a breacher (shot gun or ram) comes up from the rear. Why does that point or fisrt man only have Glock?

I think everyone should be using sometime of shoulder fire system. Not sure i would like someone taller than me shooting over me. How about you.  Team leader for us is 3rd in.

rangermike says ...

  And, hell no, I dont want anyone shooting over the top of me. 

Thats Funny LMAO.

Not trying to be dis respectful but whos in charg and kinda of experiance do they have?

 

Good topic...I would love to see more of this sort of tactical exchange of information between the highspeed LEOs on here.  I love dynamic entry, love the stack, love CQB, and overall special response.  It must be pretty exciting to build a response team from the ground up.....new SOPs, new weapons, new concepts tried and tested.  Im in warrants myself, and we frequently use the stack.  That would look stellar resume wise on your part.

Is the team voluntary?  If I were putting together an SRT from square one, I think I would try to get everyone through at least a basic SWAT course, preferably all through advanced SWAT as well.  Anymore than that, it would be a train the trainer with courses like  shotgun breaching, ballistic shield  (which would make sense for the first man in to be armed with a pistol if he was the shield man), advanced tactical pistol (including the center axis relock.)

Are you going to include a medic from the local FD? Dont forget to make use of local National Guard units and bases. Most combat arms units are well experienced between Afghanistan and Iraq, or both....and the Guard bases have small arms ranges, obstacle courses, combat lifesaver courses, and shoot houses.  Many of the police agencies in Texas do cross training with Guard units since its all state money.

Exciting stuff bro.  Keep us informed as to how it works out.  My department has both a mental warrants division (which I am in), a criminal warrants division, patrol divisions, K9 bomb detection unit, and a building security division that is responsible for all security of county property to include the many annexes and courthouses county wide.  One of my projects to complete in my down time while I am deployed is to write a TAC-SOP for proposed SRT that  we dont currently have but should.  Would love to exchange some ideas.

Id also look into ALERRT training for your ASI training.  ASI seems to be one of the major concerns regarding the focus of many police "responses" lately. 

I would reconsider the 'shortest man in front' philosophy. The pointman needs to be highly skilled and have the ability to read the room immediately, recognize danger areas, cover threats/deep corners, etc...

I would stick the TL in the #3 slot. The breacher should not be a part of the stack initially, but fall in as the last man once entry has been made.

Long guns all the way around, with the exception of the pointman. He IS working a shield...right?

i'd say good thing you're getting m4's. in my opinion, an m4 should always always ALWAYS b your point man (forward security) unless utilizing the shield. your breacher should be #4, and your TL should b #3....just my humble opinion

amooseisamongu says ...

Specify ALERRT, I'm trying to build one from the ground up as well, been SRT before, never an administrator

ALERRT = Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training   www.alerrt.com

FREE grant funded training... based in Tx though financing has been received from Feds to travel/train outside of Tx.

Contact Diana Hendricks @ 512.245.1744 to work on setting up a class.

PSD_Team_Leader says ...

hot damn i wish there was more of this on policelink!

Good topic guys...very good topic. 

yeah no doubt!  THIS is what its supposed to be all about.

our M.T.F. Entry Team is 1)  breach (Jimmy)  - which ends up being the 4th one in - GLOCK 22 usually - based on intell

                                             2) first one in (me) - and i carry my kel-tek sub 2000 - my weapon of choice

                                             3)  Jessie with the shotgun

                                             4)  team leader (Mike) with AR - 15

                                              after that it depends on the situation and what we believe who is inside or what is inside

Good to see other tactical officers around.......nothing more I like then highspeed hard chargers who carry the badge

This is all GREAT information, and has helped a great deal.  We have a shield, but won't use it much.  Most of the places we go into seem to be single wide mobile homes with piles of crap inside.  Too hard to move fast with a shield in those circumstances. 

We did finally get our M4s, and everyone will carry that into the building.  Our breacher will probably carry the M4 as well, at least until we get training on how to breach with the shotgun.  I like the idea of first in carrying one too.

I looked into the ALERRT training, but for some unknown reason the chief seems to be opposed to it.  Free training in a relevant topic?  Not sure what the resistance to it is.

I am both the best shot in the department, plus the shortest, so it looks like I will be first in.  Should be fun.

Thanks again for all the input!

It looks like we will be making an entry into a solid structure (duplex, not a single wide) tomorrow afternoon.  Hopefully we will be using some of the advice I got here....

Don't forget the shotgun. Especially if your going into mostly mobile homes.  Double 00 buck is much safe than the M-4, (depends on the rounds your using).   I worked Narcs for a few years and like most our team leader was third. Never used a shield much due to spead/stealth over slow search.  The best thing is live shoot training if possible for your team.  Good Luck. 

So, we made an entry into a house today, and used a lot of the information from these posts as we set up.  It was very successful, and led to another search warrant for drugs.  Thanks a ton to all who replied!

Right on. Glad to hear that everyone was safe