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Posted about 7 years ago

 

Somehow I feel that this is an inevitable flamefest, but I'll still ask what peoples opinions are on the subject. My friend and I were discussing the topic earlier, so I got it in my head to ask here.

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I can only speak for our area, but it is more accepted than it once was. There are Officers who when they first got on the job did not come out until they had been on at least ten years on the job. By then they had proven themselves and so were accepted. One of them is now the liason to the gay community for one of our Departments and is well respected by all. Now from what I hear most officers who are gay come out before they even join. As to whether they are accepted I think it depends on how the administration, the front line bosses, etc handle it as to whether they are accepted. I also think it depends on how the gay oificer handles it. If they do the job right they will be accepted.

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I honestly don't care if my partner of fellow officers are G/L or not so long as they do their job and back me up. I would not want any of them to be what is called flaming simply because of image to the public but their personal sexual life is their business. I do feel differently when it comes to being in the military for the sole reason of common bathrooms or showers. I simply do not want to shower with a gay guy and it would seem that it may be uncomfortable for him as well. Rather like showering with someone of the opposite sex, and not in the good way. LOL If individual showers then no problem there either. Police Officers are a different situation and unless you have problems with your own sexuality or are a bigot, which means you should not be a cop in the first place, then absolutely no problem. It's the work that counts.

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I have been asked this question many times, speaking for me only .I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANY THIG ABOUT ANYONES PERSONAL LIFE.just do you job and their will be no problem...i say this as a officer and a supervisor and a policy maker..

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I agree with odin good way to put it !!!

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Question, ODIN. You say you want to know nothing about other people, but does that not mean you are encouraging a degree of separation between people? I, personally, could not trust someone who deliberately maintains a distance from me.

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There is a degree of separation already. I do not socialize with officers because I am a supervisor and it can put me in a bad position when having to discipline an officer who may consider me a friend. Many officers come to work, do their work well and go home, never socializing with people from work off duty. That is their right to do, so long as they perform their duties competently. As far as gay or straight? What business is it of mine what goes on in someone elses life and what business is it of yours what goes on in my life. I personally know several officers who are gay or lesbian, many of which I am proud to call my friend. I don't care one way or the other so long as when I am screaming into the radio that I need help, I can count on you to be there for me. By the way, you notice that I never said if I was gay or straight because in this issue, it doesn't matter. Oh and robocop33. I understand your stance on the military, but I have to disagree with it. When we are kicking out a large number of Arabic translators just because they are gay, there is a problem with that system.

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I dont have a problem with G/L officers, they can do a job just as well and there usually isnt a fear of some involvement. They usually keep it to themselves, in my experience. This goes back to the armies policy of DADT. They feel that if youre gay or lesbian, keep your mouth shut and nothing will happen, which is wrong, nobody should discriminate.

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i prefer to work with professionals that know the law that and serve the public.. im not interested in there private life, unless i hear about them breaking the law they claim to serve..................we have enough to wory about where i am.

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i consider other officers just that....im not looking for best friends, girlfriends, or lifepartners,

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as for trusting anyone, im alot less trusting of someone that seems to need my aprovel of their love life.

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Triple post for the win! I understand what you are saying, it just seems to be too much of a Hedgehog's Dilemma to cut yourself off. Then again, my perspective is highly skewed.

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if you are so needy as to want to butt into someone elses personal life before you can trust them there are some mental health care providers you can call.............to many times in my career iv'e had to trust officers from other agencys that i have never met..you have to count one them being professionals.

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NEXT QUESTION!!!!!

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I must say that flaming a person and then demanding an immediate end to the discussion certainly fulfills my prophecy of an inevitable flamefest.

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BCPS, we agree on the LEO's completely I believe and you need to understand that I am not saying that gay people should not serve in the military. They are just as competent as anyone else and just as brave. In those areas there is not one bit of difference. I am saying the military needs to be able to provide some sort of privacy whenever they can. I just happen to have for whatever reason a larger percentage of gay friends than most people and some of them have expressed that they were actually embarrassed because of the privacy issues while serving and one said it kept him from joining. We need to accept that there are a number of very good people that are just different in a specific way and provide for that.

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I dont get into peoples bedrooms or personal lives. I have worked with a few gay or lesbian officers in the past, and they were very professional. Peoples personal lives are just that...Their lives and Personal.

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without tolerance you cant be objective enough to do the right thing.

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I think in a lot of agencies it is very difficult to be a gay officer-- that they are not accepted well. I also think that is wrong behavior, on the part of those agencies.

I don't think sexual orientation makes any difference at all as to whether or not one can be a good officer.

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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_1999_Feb_16/ai_53877983

A phila. gay officer committed suicide a few years back for an unknown reason.

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I'm aware of others who have done the same.

Anyone who has been in LE for very long knows that it is common for cops to slip into an us/them mentality about LEOs and non-LEOs. What happens to a cop who (for ANY reason) is made to feel that he or she is not included in the "us"?

It can be totally isolating.

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I personally don't care about someone elses "lifestyle". If you can do the job and be there when I need you in the field then kudos to you. The lesbians in my department are not shy about who they are and seem to be accepted for the most part. I don't think anyone really cares about their personal lives. However, I know of no gay males. I'm sure they are out there, but they are in hiding. Male homosexuals do not seem to enjoy the same level of freedom as their female counterparts in regard to being free in the police uniform. It seems to me that straight male cops, for the most part, accept lesbians, but are no where near ready to accept gay males in uniform.

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Just as all stated - "Doesn't matter - just do your job..."

As for hanging out with officers off-duty, I do as a supervisor. Is it frequent? No, but I still do it. Does it make my decisions harder? Nope.....does it make their acceptance to my decisions harder at first until they realize the two different relationships? Yes....

I had a Sergeant in the military that would do both......He had "Zero" problems hanging out with you one day and then "Smoking" the piss out of you the next when you screwed up....I've tried the "No friends" approach and for me it worked, but for the "Civilian Leo's" some are too sensitive to accept......It made me want to vomit at first and tell all the cry babies to grow up, but I realized afterwards.....everyone has to be led differently and that in itself is what makes it hard....(for atleast first line supervisors). I feel by doing that and leading by example at work - the troops will follow you anywhere.....

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I never met or knew any gay male Marines during my 8 yrs in the corps. I knew of 1 getting caught out in town kissing a another male & he was kicked out of the suck within the week! Depends on your MOS, but in the infantry, it is not tolerated as it will deteriorate moral & unit cohesion. May not be PC but in the Corps, that's the facts jack.

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Either way it doesn't matter to me as long as you do your job. As a Sergeant though I have a good relationship with my officers. I can be their best friend or their worst enemy. It's all about hoe they're doing their job and they understand that I will be on their ass just as easy as I can be someone they can talk to. My point is it doesn't matter as long as you do your job.

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I think what it really boils down to is WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT OUR FELLOW BROTHERS SEXUAL PREFERENCE IS? I can only imagine what would happen if alot of officers secret sexual preferences were made public. Hell, I've had the suckening job of arresting a fellow officer for sex related crimes. He was a damn good officer and gave his all for the dept. Did we know he was a sexual deviant? NO. How many buddies do you all know that may have a twisted sexual preferance? Probably not many...right? So what difference does it make if they are G/L? Does it make them any less of an officer? I dont feel that to be the case. If I am in need of officer assitance...I dont give a shit where you prefer to stick your johnson. I'm not going to ask because I dont care.

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you tell them cowboycarym !

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I have and do work with both G/L officers. Never had a problem. I have seen a few (hetero) sexual deviants that do concern me. I have no problem working with G/L. I probably know a little more about my guys and gals than I should. But, it seems to help individualize supervisory techniques.

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Don't care. Just don't hit on me.

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They could say the same to you, couldn't they? That is the irony.