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Hey everyone.  This is just a question for all of you out there who are in the line of work that I am in.  I am just wondering how many of ya'll get to wear a class c or tactical type uniform for resource or regular patrol?  Or do you have to wear your regular uniform all the time?  Here we have a Class A which is the typical Class A and then a Class B which is very uncomfortable for regular patrol and crawling around in the brush because they tear very easily and they will not allow us to wear any type of rip stop uniform due to they say that it symbolizes a military like persona.  I however and so do many others of my department feel that a Class C type of uniform for resource patrol or regular patrol would be fine and more comfortable and would not have as many torn uniforms as we normally do.  Just curious and I look forward to what ya'll have to say about this.  Something more along the lines of the 5.11 Taclite Pro pants is what I personally like with one the the short sleeve tactical shirts or a TDU shirt would be just right.

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Sheriff's dept. wear OD  BDU 's or jumpsuits, at least patrol personel.  Admin types dress uniforms W/ties etc.

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What I can't understand in our department is we are required to wear the typical uniform for everyday patrol but supervisors and up can wear all 5.11 style uni's when they want.  I asked if that was the path that we were taking and I was informed "supervisors only".  I will keep trying to get it changed and upgrade to a more comfortable uniform for patrol, and save the others for court or office visits and interviews and interrogations.

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We have three uniforms we are permitted to wear, not including the Class A, which no one wears by choice. 


Class B uniform,


Summer Uniform, which is a Polo type shirt and BDU shorts and black or white tennis shoes.


the third is the standard uniform, its a Polo type shirt and BDU pants and boots or tennis shoes.  The Polo shirts (called Cool Max) look nice when they are new, but after a few months they get snags in them. The BDU pants don't fade as quickly as standard BDU's, but the velcro on the pockets wears out really quickly.


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I think the issue of why they are not allowing us to wear our BDU's for regular resource patrol is because there are too many of the older officers that don't approve of the newer type of BDU style uniforms in our department.  I would eventually like to see it change and maybe allow us to use those types of uniforms.

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I work for two agencies.  One Muni Law Enforcement, the other DNR.  At the Muni job, we are now permitted to wear 5.11 Tac pants instead of polyester class A for regular patrol duties.  They still look "nice" but are much more comfortable.  I'm working on obtaining permission to go with the 5.11 polo instead of a dress shirt for 2nd and third shifts.  First shift being more visible to the public would still have to wear the Class A shirt while on patrol.  This will have the effect of making those two shifts more desireable to the officers.....instead of complaining about working them. 


At the DNR job, my section just went to the 5.11 Tac pants and polos.  We are no longer wearing green and tan.....went to red and black...for regular duty.  We still maintain the classic DNR class A for special events and such. 


I must say, 5.11 did a wonderful job when designing these uniforms.  They are durable, look nice and are comfortable to boot. (Sorry to sound like an ad)


If any of you are considering a change, I would be happy to talk with your "Brass" about the benefits of the new uniforms.  Just send me a message.

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Thanks for the info, I would really appreciate it.  We have BDU's and shorts for water safety but not regular patrol.  I would appreciate any advice you could give me.  I think that a more comfortable uniform would make a world of difference.  I personally hate the current pants for the reason that they get torn all the time and they eat up your whole uniform allowance for the year becuase they are so expensive.  I agree I do have a couple of the Tac pants from 5.11 and they are the best pants I have ever worn. 

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A slightly older topic but I thought I'd ad my 2 cents since I've recently been attempting to make a change to our policy.  In CA we have the "typical" Class A (wool pants, long sleeve shirt with tie, wool coat, "campain" hat and Leather duty gear).  Class B is basically the Class A minus the coat and hat.  Class C is our typical field uniform Tan shirt (long or short sleeve), green BDU style pants and either leather or nylon duty gear.  5.11 gear is the most used by our officers (TDU pants and standard 5.11 uniform shirt).  The Class C uniform also allows for camouflage with subdued patches for tactical work.  The policy only specifies that the pattern match the agency that the officer is working with.  The "unofficial" department pattern is the MARPAT digital woodland.  Class D is a jumpsuit (all green for inland staff, all blue for marine officers) which can only be worn with supervisory approval or special details (boat patrol, hazmat, etc).  Class E is shorts with a 5.11 polo.  Class F is our Tac-Vests.  Designed to carry all of our standard equipment in a load bearing vest platform with the wording "POLICE, Fish and Game" in yellow or subdued black on the back of the vest.  Authorized only for ATV, extended foot patrol, waterfowl patrol (over chest waders) and tactial entry.  The change I'm trying to make currently is to allow K-9 officers to wear a green 5.11 TDU shirt instead of the department standard tan.

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Class A everyday

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Maybe one day they will change the policy on uniforms...

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Chad - Sorry I didn't see this post until now. Our officers below the rank of Sergeant can wear a utility uniform that consists of military style pants and shirt with sewn on name plates and embroidered badge. It definitely comes in handy crawling through green briars, checking oysters or a multitude of other field assignments. For the most part the individual officer chooses when he/she wants to wear it. Obviously court assignments and visits to HQ are generally no-no's. Its basically a wash and wear. Lieutenants and above are issued one utility uniform for patrol type assignments but routinely wear either the normal uniform pants with a shirt and tie in the winter months or the uniform pants with a short sleeve shirt in the summer months. For the most part everyone also has a class A uniform which is the formal dress uniform complete with Sam Brown belt for special assignments. About 6 or 8 years ago we also had a uniform for summer months that consisted of shorts and a polo style shirt. When we had it it was appreciated by the guys on the boat working in the summer heat. As administrations change though it was done away with which was unfortunate. Our K9 and tactical guys basically wear  the utility uniform with the biggest difference being subdued patches.

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Thanks Ed, I like the way that ya'll have your policy.  I think it is awesome that most depts are doing that but for routine patrol our department won't allow it only for water safety.  I know I have said that before but I just wish that I could bring this up our chain to get the policy changed on our uniforms.  There are a lot of officers in our dept that want to change uni's because of what you mentioned about crawling around through the brush.  I may try to start bring this up with our dept to try to change.

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Who is buying the relpacement uniforms.  If it's, as it should be, the department then find something that will look nice and be durable to the tasks of the day and sell it to the admin by how much money they could be saving by getting proper uniforms.  All to often admin forgets what its like to actually put in work.  They feel looks are more important than function and will sacrifice to much for appearance.  Both are important but function is No.1 in my opinion.


We wear Class A, Class B (basically the same as Class A except cargo pocket trousers) and Summer or Winter Jumpsuits.  The jumpsuits are pretty durable so far.  Most wear nothing but a jumpsuit.


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