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Posted about 7 years ago

 

Has anyone ever changed from one department to another? Was the process easier than when you forst become an LEO? I may want to switch departments when I eventually join.

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In most of the bigger cities, it stays the same. You still have to go through all of the testing, and you may even have to attend the academy again. Places like Tulsa, Norman and Oklahoma City all require every recruit to go through the academy, no matter if you have no experience or 20 years of experience. Then you go through FTO again, and basically start over. Broken Arrow Oklahoma has a program for Lateral Transfers, you still go through the entire hring process, but no second academy, you still go through FTO again, but you start off at the same pay that you just left. So if you had three years of experience, then you would start off at the three year officers pay there. You do lose seniority though.

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From my experience, it is easier because you have already established yourself as a law enforcement officer. The hiring process is the same but not as stringent and they at least have a foundation from which to get an opinion of your furure job performance. Good recommendations from supervisors helps out a lot.


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I don't understand why you are already thinking about switching departments before you are even on the job? Why would you go to work somewhere, or more importantly, why would someone hire you knowing that you already want to switch departments.

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Well I'll tell you.. There are so many departments around my area that are hiring when I graduate high school. If I get accepted into a college or university campus police, I get to go to thier college/university for free. I would do that and get my degree, and then possibly transfer over to a better department that requires a degree with higher pay. In case you don't believe me because I know there are people reading thinking that I am just a stupid kid, I may get accepted into the Temple University PD. I would get my BA/BS in Criminal Justice and, in a few years, apply to a federal agency or the PA state police. Whether I do or not, I just wanted to know how it would work.

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I know what I'm doing chief, my father is a police officer with a lifetime on the job. I have had correct guidence.

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Every dept has their own rules and regs, as has been said. Dallas P.D. makesyou go thru their academy regardless, too, but from my understandings there are some depts in New Mexico that'll stick you straight on the street if you come from Texas (because Texas requirements and academy hours are much higher, more detailed and aggressive).

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I know here in Texas about 98% of your PD's are sticking together looking for gypsie officers meaning officers that get on at one department and leave join another one and just keep jumping from department to department. It's starting to be that the PD's are making new recruits sign a working contract meaning that if they accept you you must serve a certain amount of time with them Dallas is 4 years and some others are 2 years then you get your departments that will pay for your basic training but you have to stay with them in a course of 5 years. The other 2% that don't watch for the gypsie affect require that you have 2-4 years of prior experience as a LEO...not saying your doing anything wrong Trooper just giving some info thats always good to have =D

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Thanks kpettijohn, I think philadelphia PD might have changed their service years.

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Just saying every state is going to be different for example to become a CAMPUS PO you must already be certified to be a LEO some local PD's will hire you and pay for your training but then again you must work with them for a certain amount of years. To become a Texas State Trooper aka Highway patrol you must have 4+ years as a LEO and then you have to hit there academy up and do there testing. My personal advise to you is apply to all the PD's that don't require you to have your license yet, and will pay for your training that way you get your training getting paid while you do it get your 2 years with them and then look at xfering somewhere. It's alot easier to xfer somewhere if you have some years under your belt the background check is faster and all they do is contact your PD and ask if they would re-hire you and how you worked.

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Gottcha... (Temple PD does not require MPO certification; they train along side city officers in our academy). Thank you for the added advice.

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No problem....just remember the hardest part of becoming a LEO is getting your foot inside the door but seeing your father being a PO himself you shouldn't have too much of a problem of getting started

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I understand what you're planning/wanting ST, but the math isn't adding up for me. When you graduate high school, you'll be what...18? Unless there is some sort of law I'm completely ignorant of, you won't be able to be commissioned as a law enforcement officer until you are at least 21. Are they going to take you on as some sort of unarmed reserve?

Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm seriously confused here...

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Well GTS I thought the same thing but from my understanding at 18 YOU CAN'T BUY A HANDGUN but you can be given one so if the department issues you one then you may carry, all the PD's that I know of require you to be 21 but thats only here in Texas doesn't mean other states follow the same rules or guidelines

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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not familiar with other states' statutes, but the only organization that I've heard of issuing handguns to individuals under 21, is the U.S. Military.

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Yeah this being true, but about 99.9% of your departments wont issue any-one under 18 a handgun I'm just saying that it can happen. To be honest there is a big maturity line from 18-21, don't know if I could really trust a 18 year old backing me up in a gun fight or anything like that =P

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I live in PENNSYLVANIA not Texas like everyone else here. All the departments in and surrounding Philadelphia say that you can become an LEO at 19. Philadelphia PD, Temple University PD, DRPA, and SEPTA police, just to name a few. All I wanted was to to hear how it worked, not for me to be critisized. And kpettijohn, weather the officer is 18 or 65, they are still a P/O with the same training. If you were in a fire fight and you needed help, no matter who it would be he may save your life. You guys sure don't like us younger guys, huh. Please stick to the topic and don't criticize my plans.

PS; I will be 19 when I graduate high school, so I can apply right out of high school.

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In Florida it used to be 18 yrs for police officer, I'm not sure if they changed the age requirment yet. I know Fl was trying to make a 2 yr degree mandatory, but there's been debate in state legisture. I also did a internship in South Florida pd and that they had a lot of young officers early twenty's to mid twenty's working for them.

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Calm down, no one critcized you or your plans. I asked a simple question about age restrictions...that's all.

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There's nothing to calm down about, I wasn't trying to be mean.

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Or rather I didn't mean to sound like I was angry, because I'm not. I apologize if it sounded that way GTS197.

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I am a corrections officer in PA and I am considering joining the miami pd or the nypd. Does anyone have any advice for me.

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You are better off joing the PA state police if you an Associate's Degree-- much higher pay than NY. Im not too sure about Miami. Why do you want to go all the way down there?

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all I can say Supertrooper is that there is a big maturity lvl from 18-21, and if you think I am tryin to bust your bubble your wrong there is nothing wrong with young officers me being one myself if you have your self all set up then good for you I am glad. I'll be sure not you make any comments on your post from now on good luck to your LE career

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Personally, I think you need to concentrate on one thing at a time. You haven't even graduated HS yet, which means that you can't even apply to take the PD test yet, & yet, here you are, talking about switching depts already?

One thing at a time bro, one thing at a time.

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Ok, all I wanted to know was how the process was. Forget the last line of the intro.

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SuperTrooper; I'm not the "oldest" person in this public forum nor (by FAR) am I the "smartest". Please take the following comments in that light:
(1) I think that you are taking these officers' comments WAY too personal. They are just that; comments, not personal attacks. You did ask for thoughts and opinions, and that's what these guys are giving, their personal thoughts and opinions, not attacks.
(2) I got my "first taste" in the EARLY 1980's ('80-'81) as a C.I. in high school at the age of 16. By age 17, I was getting paid for my info. Back then (here in Texas) you could hit the academy and be security or police by 18. Of course, back then you could also pull into the hgh school parking lot with a shot gun in the gun rack of your pick up truck and compare yours to the principal's, not see the school go into lock-down and wind up in jail.
(3) There is no offense to you or your age intended, but I think that 18 is too young. I know that the military will let you in at 18. I don't know about now, but it used to be that you could get into the military even younger than that with parental consent; my nephew went into the Navy at 17. I do not see where it's fair, right or just that you can fight for your country at 18 carrying a fully automatic weapon, but you can't protect it's citizens on our own soil with a side arm or buy a beer until age 21 or better. Just in MHO.

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After just looking at the home page cover story on the 19 yr old Va. student, I see that some states still allow pre-21 entry status. Best wishes, SuperTrooper.

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Supertrooper you need to stop being so hateful. These guys are giving you good advice and you come roaring back in retaliation.

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After reading hotcop204's comment, I want to apologize to all. I did NOT meanto sound angry or upset, I just chose the wrong words. I hope this does not affect my reputation on Policelink because I believe that prior to this I had many officer's respect, and I hope to keep it this way and not end up like Dave101. Please forgive me. And I'm not being "hateful." I don't hate these fine people on this site, I respect them and give them much credit for what they do. I especially want to apologize to GTS197 and anyone else I offended. I am open to ANYTHING anyone has to say. Just don;t get too into my department change idea.

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