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The reason i bring this up is because the 2 troopers in Colorado that have passed in the last week and i was talking with people about going down to participate. My buddy's wife went of as she thinks its disrespectful to go to ANY funeral if you do not know the person very very well. Of course this conversation went on for about 2 hours as i feel the complete opposite and attend every LEO, Fire, EMS and Military funeral i can to pay my respect for their ultimate sacrifice. I'd like some opinions on this topic! Anyone agree with my friends wife?

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Showing your respect to a public servant is not the same as popping in on Jim Bob's funeral three counties over just to get good eats. Why then, in her way of thinking, is it okay for high profile figures to lie in repose in state and federal arenas? I think showing your respect lets the family know that although you may not know the person, you feel a loss too. Has your friend's wife ever done any public service?

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icephoenix51 said:

Showing your respect to a public servant is not the same as popping in on Jim Bob's funeral three counties over just to get good eats. Why then, in her way of thinking, is it okay for high profile figures to lie in repose in state and federal arenas? I think showing your respect lets the family know that although you may not know the person, you feel a loss too. Has your friend's wife ever done any public service?

Nope and i argued that fact and said i guess you just dont understand then she got a lil attitude when i said that lol

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Good for you! Public servants are a different breed.....always will be. Keep on keepin' on!

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I think you need to explain the reason we call each other brother and sister when talking to other LEO's .. we are all family... and as an Honor Guard commander, having gone to one to many funerals... I've seen the loss in every face that has a uniform on... even those that never even had a chance to say hi to that person... and I dont know about everyone else, but I also see it as it could be me or one of my friends lying there.. and I think that is another reason we all go.. we all face the same risk every day.. that alone makes us all family..

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Well said Merlin!!!!

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Just in her comment tells me that it would be more of a waste of time to even explain it to her. There are always people that will sit there even though their mind set is wrong and demand that you agree with them. LEO funerals are not even close to your normal funerals. We are all in an extended family that crosses states and even countries. Some people will never understand the bonds that we have with eachother. I'm from Colorado and plan on going to the funeral. It is so great to see all the differant departments that pay their respects to one of our own.

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Just in her comment tells me that it would be more of a waste of time to even explain it to her. There are always people that will sit there even though their mind set is wrong and demand that you agree with them. LEO funerals are not even close to your normal funerals. We are all in an extended family that crosses states and even countries. Some people will never understand the bonds that we have with eachother. I'm from Colorado and plan on going to the funeral. It is so great to see all the differant departments that pay their respects to one of our own.

Have you heard of a date yet for Trooper Templeton's services? Ive been watching the CSP and newspaper websites but havnt seen anything yet.

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As a survivor, I'd like to respond to this question also. While I can't speak for every LEO survivor, I do know far too many survivors, and we've all discussed this very topic. Overwhelmingly, we all say how incredibly honored, grateful and overwhelmed we were (and are) by the response of the entire LEO community (and community in general, for that matter). If we were able to personally say "thank you" to each and every one of you who salutes our fallen officer, who remembers him or her, who honors him or her by continuing to wear the uniform and fight the battle, by attending our officer's funerals, memorial services, etc., we would gladly do so. It means more to us than I have words to describe. So I therefore encourage you, if you are able, to attend the services for these officers and to honor their lives and service. Thank you.

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Full honor, dress uniforms, motorcycle escort, helicopter fly-over, etc...


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bragon, I don't know if your buddy is a LEO or not. I find that usually it is NON LEO families who say that. I had a coworker when I worked at a human service agency tell me the same thing. She said that the PD's and myself were NOT family. I told her that if she wasn't part of the family she wouldn't understand. I was at a LEO's funeral (Off Duty death) and half the church was roped off for LE. i was sitting next to an EAP Counselor for that PD who told me that it should not be roped off for LE that "family and friends should be able to sit there". I told her his family woulld have a place to sit but that LE "is his family and firends". Halfway through the service she leaned over and said I now understand! As chevar stated it means so much to the survivors to see the family of blue there for them. I can remeber standing in formation for NYSP Trooper Brinkerhoff's funeral earlier this year and the cars filled with family driving by and the family all turned to face us. I heard from a Trooper working with the family and he said the family told him that it meant so much to see LE from all over the country and Canda come to honor him even though they didn't know him.

It just comes down to if they aren't part of the family they will never understand. Keep going to honor the fallen and God bless!

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If they wore a uniform, they ARE a part of my family... just like if you wear one, you and I are "kin", I would welcome you at my funeral (well, that may be a little awkward... lol) and I'd be honored to attend yours (God forbid that be necessary). I've gone to more than I can (or care to) remember, from my partner's to officers I'd never seen before; always in full dress blues, complete with braids, cover, white gloves and all my salad as well as ribbons. I may be in a wheel chair now, but I still clean-up and dress-out pretty good for a white boy. (Before anyone gets offended... IT'S A JOKE... my kids are mixed).

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I've been retired for 5 yrs... we always have been a different breed, we always will be. We gotta have each other's backs in life because no one else will... what's the difference in death's repose? My Last Will and Testiment even specifies that I be laid out / buried in full uniform from my last dept.

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This is your brothers funeral, your buddy's wife couldn't be more wrong.


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merlin said:

I think you need to explain the reason we call each other brother and sister when talking to other LEO's .. we are all family... and as an Honor Guard commander, having gone to one to many funerals... I've seen the loss in every face that has a uniform on... even those that never even had a chance to say hi to that person... and I dont know about everyone else, but I also see it as it could be me or one of my friends lying there.. and I think that is another reason we all go.. we all face the same risk every day.. that alone makes us all family..

Totally agree! I have to say that I too have been to many funerals of LEO's that I did not know. Being a part of an Honor Guard is to honor those fallen. Every LEO is related by the Thin Blue Line whether we know each other or not. It hits hard whenever the news is heard that an LEO from anywhere has been killed in the line of duty (or off-duty). Family's of LEO's killed understand that. It's just a way that we as Officers can show respect to that Officer that has passed. And Merlin's right...it could just as easily be any one of us lying there. Yes, LEO's should be at every funeral to show honor and respect whether they know the Officer or not.

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That is why it is called "The Brotherhood".....


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sgt457 said:

Full honor, dress uniforms, motorcycle escort, helicopter fly-over, etc...

Don't forget the bagpipes......

My hubby refuses to talk about my last wishes.....make sure he knows that I want yellow roses & to be buried in my uniform.......


"It would be better for one to have a stone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, than to cause a child to stumble."

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Hey LC! Yeah, I think sometimes it's just harder for the men to talk about these things when it comes to themselves or spouses! It's something that I've definitely thought about a lot recently. You just never know. We'll make sure he knows LC!

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LCarvin said:


sgt457 said:


Full honor, dress uniforms, motorcycle escort, helicopter fly-over, etc...


Don't forget the bagpipes......

My hubby refuses to talk about my last wishes.....make sure he knows that I want yellow roses & to be buried in my uniform.......


Hey, L, put everything on a floppy... that's what I did. All they gotta do is pop it in a computer and there's everything laid out (no pun intended) in detail of how and what my final wishes are. It also helps your family to not have to make such tough decissions with such short time under so much pressure.

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Although I have been retired over 10 years, I Honor my fallen comrades by wearing my uniform and attending the service for them. I also send sympathy cards to police families around the world and fly the Officer Down flag in front of my house on a 21 ft pole

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I definately do not agree with her. They are burying my "brother" and I damn well will show my respect for him, or her if that is the case.

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I will have a full Military/LE funeral service. My friends say they won't let me die any other way.. I personally am a humble person and hope to slip away quietly..and will hopefully be pulling duty at Heaven's gates.

I attend every funeral I can. I lost 23 Marines in my Unit and I went to everyone of them. I was their leader and I felt it to be a duty to tell their families about them and what made their sacrifices special. It's a brother/sisterhood and I feel if one of us goes it's a sad day in the world, and if I can go and show my respect, I will.

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We where told over 3000 people showed up for my brothers furneral. He was buried in his uniform. It gave us comfort knowing so many people cared enough to show their respect for my baby brother.

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Marcia, I'm very sorry for your loss. Where did your brother work?

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some people don't understand....to even question why we attend the funerals of our fallen brothers / sisters or suggest it is disrespectful because we didn't know them personally is misguided....and as much as the families thank us for honoring their fallen heroes, it is us who are honored for just being in the same profession as those who have paid for our freedoms with their lives....

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From what I've come to learn from the 3 law enforcement funerals and 4 military funerals, is that its all about respect and honor among colleagues, battle buddies. People that fight the same fight, work for a just cause, because divided we would not accomplish any of our missions. Unfortunatley, to me, one of the biggest ways we come together, one of the most advertised ways to everyone else that the badguys will not ever beat us, is when one of us gives their life and we all come out in force to honor, remember, unite and support each other, each agency, every member of our adopted family of blue. I too have been challenged on the basis of "why such a big deal for a cop?", within my own family and its hard to see that many people see it as, "oh well, he/she was a cop, they knew the risk." That is and always will be unacceptable to me and I will continue to ensure that I attend any fallen brother/sisters service to honor and say thanks in my own special way. And for those that don't agree with us honoring those that died for EVERYONE'S safety, they should be ashamed.

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It should be up to the Officers family weather to have a private funeral. Over the 29 years that I was on the job, I saw that happen once. Most Officers families know that their loved one was part of another family also and they understand that they must mourn also. Even though, you might not know the Officer who died, might not be from the same agency, might not be from the same level agency (Federal, State, County or City) we still share a common bond, the we are Officers. It is all about RESPECT for each other.


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I have only attended one officer funeral. It was in my second year of being an officer. Luckily I have not seen any other officers that I know or in the South TX area pass on, but i will attend every LEO Funeral that I am able to. I think my wife would disagree saying things such as "You didn't know them personally" but they are my brothers and will support their families in their time of need.

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For those who understand no explination is needed. For those who do not understand no explination will work


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bad_lt said:

For those who understand no explination is needed. For those who do not understand no explination will work

Exactly!

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