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What is with the anomosity between po and co

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As a former NYC Corrections Officer I have had some run ins with some of the worse Police Officers.  I can't understand where the anomosity comes from...can someone please explain.  I am always polite and cooperative (when and if I get pulled over on the highway), but for some reason the nastiness still comes to the forefront .....why?????


Even when I was still working and had to have contact with them , sometimes it was very polite and sometimes I got the "look", like I was not worth talking to or was so dumb that things had to be explained more than once......

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I started my career in Corrections, State then County.  I have noticed that some of our younger LEOs who started on the road seem to have a lack of respect for COs. It's not really very common at my agency though as most of us are former COs.  I can only say that to the LEOs that give you s#$t, F@#k um'.

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not very common here either, and also being a former DOC C/O, I have no problems with the jailors in my area and know what they deal with.  We all have a place in the system and have to work together, so why be hateful.  A bunch of the guys I work with are also former C/Os. 

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Why? Maybe it's because we have so many tards in our ranks...


cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/327485.html">http://www.tri-cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/327485.html


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Why? Maybe it's because we have so many tards in our ranks...


cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/327485.html">http://www.tri-cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/327485.html



 


Agreed Riot, alot of agencies are so short staffed that they hire just about anyone....then you have the political hires....yes I went there.....I don't agree with alot of the hiring processes but its the way it is.  It has been this way since before I came along and it will probably be this way long after I'm gone......those of us with integrity and pride do the best we can to keep our profession from keeping this black eye we seem to keep getting......with that said......


This topic has been beaten to death yet every now and then someone brings it back up.  Please, for all the new folks out there, do a search of the threads and you will get a general idea where the folks from both sides, PO and CO stand on this issue.  Generally nothing good comes from this topic in open forum except alot of argument and hurt feelings.  Lets stop causing the animosity between us and work on getting along and fixing the problem.


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Zero animosity here.


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I don't recall having a problem where I am from, I have seen the I am better than you within the ranks, State thinks they are better next to the County then down to the City then to the town and then to the security officers. I always tried to judge each on their own merit.


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Actually I think it is pride in the job they do and the organization, it has always been that way. I still think that the County I worked for out did the State and all the rest but that is because I worked there. We had a State Trooper leave his job and come to work for us.


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There should be none!


I love each day like its my last! Why do we are have to be so serious?

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There should be none!



Craig you are right, we all bleed blue.


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This CO/PO issue has been beat to death here on PL.  Regardless, riveralies are common in LE and have been for a very long time.  Riveralies are a healthy way of increasing productivity, initiative, and bonds between agencies.  Should it turn into animosity between those agencies, that's when it's time for the Big Cheeses to get together and hash things out. 


I'd venture a guess and say that the animosity you're experiencing is due to an old rivalery turned bad and most involved probably don't even understand when or how the animosity began.


When dealing with a similar situation between a BP station and a local PD we decided to take the issue to our Patrol Agent in Charge.  He got together with the PD Chief and they decided to start a few co-sponsored LEO events to repair the LE bonds and reinstitute good working relations.


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This CO/PO issue has been beat to death here on PL.  Regardless, riveralies are common in LE and have been for a very long time.  Riveralies are a healthy way of increasing productivity, initiative, and bonds between agencies.  Should it turn into animosity between those agencies, that's when it's time for the Big Cheeses to get together and hash things out. 


I'd venture a guess and say that the animosity you're experiencing is due to an old rivalery turned bad and most involved probably don't even understand when or how the animosity began.


When dealing with a similar situation between a BP station and a local PD we decided to take the issue to our Patrol Agent in Charge.  He got together with the PD Chief and they decided to start a few co-sponsored LEO events to repair the LE bonds and reinstitute good working relations.



Did it work AZ


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This CO/PO issue has been beat to death here on PL.  Regardless, riveralies are common in LE and have been for a very long time.  Riveralies are a healthy way of increasing productivity, initiative, and bonds between agencies.  Should it turn into animosity between those agencies, that's when it's time for the Big Cheeses to get together and hash things out. 


I'd venture a guess and say that the animosity you're experiencing is due to an old rivalery turned bad and most involved probably don't even understand when or how the animosity began.


When dealing with a similar situation between a BP station and a local PD we decided to take the issue to our Patrol Agent in Charge.  He got together with the PD Chief and they decided to start a few co-sponsored LEO events to repair the LE bonds and reinstitute good working relations.



Did it work AZ



Sure did!  A few softball games and BBQs went a long way to causing some of the more thick-skulled LEOs (blue & green) to "see the light."  In the end we're all on the same side regardless of jurisdiction and color of uniform.  Any BP seeing a cop fighting for his/her life is going to stop and put his/her @$$ kicking boots to good use.  As far as BP is concerned, we're the most available backup to any local LE in many areas.  When the PD has 50 cops and a BP station has 400 agents, we'll be there...in force, likey grinning in expectation .  This should be expected of us...of any LEO.  I don't doubt for a minute that a CO around here, seeing me fighting with an illegal alien, would do the same for me.  I know my blue brothers will be there tazering the hell out of 'em.  "Honor First!"


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I would have in my prime and still will help any LEO in need of assistance


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No anamocity here. We're all brothers & sisters headed for one common goal... & that goal is to keep societies knotheads off the streets. Like it or not you can't have a PO without a CO/DO


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In the Kansas City area, I would say there is a mixture of various attitudes. Some of it is caused by some of our own doing stupid stuff, and they know better. I have a lot of respect for cops on the street. They at times go through some bad trauma, as was publicized recently within the local news about a couple of blue brothers from Kansas City, Kansas who were harmed. I just hope to get a modicum of respect, as a fellow LEO, even if I do walk a different beat than the street cop. Note, I'm not even trying to be street cop. I'm a prison cop, and enjoy what I do for a living. You all stay safe.

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 Many, NOT all have serious attitudes.  A lot of times it's the shield out the window combined with rolling eyes and sucking teeth followed by I'm on the job.  Again it's not all, but the ones that fly past me when I'm in a marked car or go through the red light when I am behind them because they are late for work act like morons when they get stopped.  If you act professional I will have no problem treating you like a professional but I refuse to be talked down to when I am doing my job.  The same goes for some of these knuckle head rookie cops who act like idiots.

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 Many, NOT all have serious attitudes.  A lot of times it's the shield out the window combined with rolling eyes and sucking teeth followed by I'm on the job.  Again it's not all, but the ones that fly past me when I'm in a marked car or go through the red light when I am behind them because they are late for work act like morons when they get stopped.  If you act professional I will have no problem treating you like a professional but I refuse to be talked down to when I am doing my job.  The same goes for some of these knuckle head rookie cops who act like idiots.



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 Many, NOT all have serious attitudes.  A lot of times it's the shield out the window combined with rolling eyes and sucking teeth followed by I'm on the job.  Again it's not all, but the ones that fly past me when I'm in a marked car or go through the red light when I am behind them because they are late for work act like morons when they get stopped.  If you act professional I will have no problem treating you like a professional but I refuse to be talked down to when I am doing my job.  The same goes for some of these knuckle head rookie cops who act like idiots.



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It's called respect, don't make me look bad and we are okay


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Im an LEO, im simply too good to answer that question.


Joke aside: I love the CO's. I could not be babysitting the worst animals in our society. Mad Props to the CO's!!!


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I never had any problems with the CO's in my county and we all worked together, City, County and Jailers. State Corrections Officer were many times like copscops said, a bunch of sloppy lowlifes that probably would be in the prison even if they were not a CO. Now I understand that the vast majority of them are great guys and gals but we frankly never have much contact with them as they don't mess up and get in fights, drunk, or drive like an idiot. They are good folks. It's the bad ones that give the bad rap for many CO's. Same thing for Security Guards. Probably most are good folks but we always end up dealing mostly with the idiot wanna bes who really screw things up so we end up thinking "oh crap, a damn security guard again" whenever we get a call to meet one for something.


As for the BP, I worked a lot with them in San Ysidro and the San Diego PD and BP always worked very well with each other and seemed to be great friends. We were both cops as far as we were concerned.