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Posted about 6 years ago

 

Should Crime Scene Technicians be sworn or civilian employees? We all know the importance of crime scene protection, investigation, and preservation and collection of evidence. I have my own opinions on whether or not Crime Scene Tech's should be sworn or civilian but I would like some feedback. Thanks!  

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

In response to whether Crime Scene Investigators should be sworn or civilian employees...I believe that inorder to keep the integrity of the scene and chain of evidence that an investigator should be a sworn officer.  In our court system in Alabama, our judges require that CSI be sworn officers.  You have set the standard of excellence as a sworn officer and your testimony is more readily accepted.  I look forward to more comments and ideas from other members of this group


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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

The problem with sworn in this role is that they promote, move to patrol, etc. WIth SME's, they are hired into this spot and the expertise stays there. Makes good budgetary sense. Plus, bringing in a serologist with a PhD and a passion for the work makes more sense than spending $100,000 to train a patrol officer ... who may decide after all of the training that he/she doesn't really like working with nasty fluids all day. :-)

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

There are only two of us in my agency, both of us sworn.  I would love see a civilian or two be able to come in to our unit.  I agree with Jim in part, a civilian could be hired in to do exactly what he or she has had the training and education for with just departmental issues to be learned, where as we sworn officers, for the most part, are put in these positions (usually at our request) needing a vast amount of training before becoming proficient.  I believe all agencies should have at least one or more sworn investigators/detectives assigned to the unit for the obvious warrant and scene management issues.  I can tell you that the majority of sworn officers will heed a sworn officers direction at a scene over a civilians, warranted or not.  The majority of police officers are too pig headed to listen to a civilian, even employed by the same agency they work for, and I am one of them.  Our personalities just don't work out for that.


I know that a lot of FL agencies have civilian CSI's, I've trained with several and they are well educated and trained.  I would like to know if thats a trend prompted bythe FDLE or just a trend in general there or anywhere else.  Just curious.

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

As a student of Crime Scene/ Forensic Science I also believe that CSI's should be sworn employees. Not that civilians could not do the job with integrity and professionalism but being a sworn  employes makes one dedicated to the public and LE. Better training and more likely to work together and follow the chain of command without question.


 

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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

 fill that they should be sworn officers but not post cerft officer there power is only as civilan but can carry and do there job with the skills and trining they are hired to do.

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Rate This | Posted almost 5 years ago

 

In my department all of our Crime Scene Technicians are sworn patrol officers working street patrol.   We handle all the calls for service until a call comes up that requires extra resources that are beyond the scope of what a patrol officer should be processing like blood collection, dna etc.. and dead people.  Every officer on the street goes through a basic crime scene course and taught how to lift latent prints and collect evidence and given the tools to do so.


Now for the really serious stuff like homicides, extreme violence calls etc..  these are turned over to the Crime Scene Analysists who are also sworn members, but they are actually assigned to the Crime Scene Unit.  They also have several civilians who assist them and there refered to as Crime Scene Specialists.  I have only been a CST for alittle over a year and have worked alot of scenes with CSA's and CSS's and from what i have seen the CSS's are there as support for the CSA's and they do not work a case independently.  All of our CSS's are certified and trained very well for thier paticular field and do testify in court.  They just focus on the crime scene and nothing else. 


Until this question was brought up, I never really thought about it.  But from a majority of the comments it makes scense in the long term of things mainly with the court room trials and what not to have them be sworn members, but all of the civilians that I have worked with all have a passion for thier respected field and are great at what they do and i dont have a problem with them not being sworn at all.