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TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FOR PRIVATE OFFICERS
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Posted over 4 years ago OK folks, this is gonna be a multi-post article I just reviewed. Before everyone strokes out about this, please READ the entire article, then give me some reasonsable feedback other than blanket "Hell NO" reactions. I don't entirely agree with the whole concept, but it did make for some interesting reading and thinking. - Thanks. Mike L. TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FOR PRIVATE OFFICERS (part one) Many security companies advertise in their yellow page ad that their company provides traffic enforcement services. But the question is do they really and to what extent? Is it legal or illegal? What authority do they really have? Can they issue speeding tickets and other citations? As we discussed a few weeks ago in our training on Scope Of Authority, there are two traditional ways of having police authority which includes issuance of speeding tickets. Those include either being a full or If problems persist with law enforcement, this issue needs to be addressed by the Chief of Security or the client and it needs to go directly to the police chief or sheriff so that they have a clear understanding of what you are doing, how you are doing it and who is doing it. This way the top brass knows that it’s not some guys playing cop and they’ll be more supportive and communicate that info with the filed patrol division. Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago PART 2.... But before we head out with a ticket book in hand, we need to consider a few things first. Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago PART 3.... If you or your security department is completely a non-sworn force, there are some steps that you can take to implement traffic procedures. Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Part 4....
Every stop should be fully documented with a written report and video camera footage for liability purposes. When a driver refuses to cooperate, the local police department should be called for immediate assistance and the driver should be trespassed from the property. When conducting traffic stops, use a high level of officer safety, call the stop in to your dispatcher, another officer or the answering service and give them the tag numbers of each offender, description of the vehicle, number of occupants and driver description if you can see it. I also usually write the tag info down on a notepad that I keep beside me just in case anything ever happens. If you are trying to make a traffic stop and the offender speeds off, DO NOT pursue this vehicle for any reason. Do not chase this vehicle for any reason off from the private property or onto any other ajoining road. This road which turns into a city or county road is completely off limits to you and you have no authority whatsoever there and you are opening up yourself to criminal charges. Get the license plate number and call it in to the police and back off. If you choose to pursue this driver and they wreck, hit another vehicle and kill someone, strike a pedestrian or crash and die themselves, you the security officer could be charged with manslaughter, vehicle homicide or other serious felony charges as well as being held civilly responsible and it will be devastating. The traffic offense isn’t worth the bad things that will happen to you if something goes very wrong. You’re not a police officer and the court will not recognize that they were fleeing because they had committed a prior crime or were in possession of illegal drugs or guns and you will not be “shielded” from criminal and civil consequences. Be professional, courteous, don’t argue or cuss and don’t push the authority issue. Use professional, calibrated equipment including radar, professional looking tickets or citations and have your act together. Know when to back off and call for assistance and don’t overstep your authority and boundary. Educate yourself about the criminal statues and civil laws. books and information is available on line as well as at your local library. And the bottom line is to stay safe! Unknown, (2008, July). Traffic Enforcement. Retrieved August 27, 2008, from PrivateOfficer.com Web site: http://www.privateofficer.com/TrafficEnforcement.html Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago what? no takers? Too many youngsters get their hands on firearms without proper supervision. Keep your guns secure from ALL unauthorized persons! Lets stop burying children - PLEASE (jal.fast@yahoo.com) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I agree 300% Cant pick this apart at all. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Sounds good in theory... i see too many Security Officers trying to do things that really SHOULD NOT be done. If nothing else it would be a way to kill time. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago HELL NO! Pain is weakness leaving the body. Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I can picture this now....somebody NOT stopping for the guard and they go off-site and pursue the guy to his house. If anybody with yellow lights comes to my house....lets just say they'll be having an opening pretty soon for one reason or another. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I think you covered all the bases very well. Of course the key here is PRIVATE PROPERTY! The trick, as always, is training. Officers not only need to how to do the enforcement duties assigned to them, they must absolutely know their limitations! You're talking about a higher caliber of officer, too. The more extensive/complicated the job, the more essential extensive training becomes! And yes, given the current trends, we are going to see more of this type of security-enforcement operations in the future. The bar is being raised: the security field is becoming more complex, more demanding, & more extensive. I just hope that the industry's hiring & training practices follow along as well. - gl |
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| Posted over 4 years ago While I agree with a lot of what is said my concern is that most security companies do not train security guards well enough to handle those situations, and then you have the ones who are on a power trip, so they are bound to over step themselves.
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| Posted over 4 years ago Old topic but... I just have to say this- many cities hire meter-maids that have no arrest power at all. The entire purpose of outsourcing private security officers to enforce traffic regulations is to take the caseload off of local Law Enforcement agencies while simultaneously serving the community. The tickets pay for LEO salaries, schools, and public works (like your garbage men). Honestly, how is this a bad thing? I, personally, hated being called for "parking problem" calls...if someone ran around writting tickets, it would have freed me up so I could catch speeders (making the roads safer). |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Riot says ...
I guess they have a lot of speeders in the prison? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Lulusgt says ...
You should read all of my profile... Employer US Army Position Sergeant / Team Leader Industry: Military Police Location Fort Bragg, NC |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Ummmm ok! |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago The Board of Directors in gated community Assoc's. can enforce a speed limit and have SPO's or properly trained & certified personnel videotape & document & issue warnings as well as take plate numbers & write citations for repeat offenders and bill the homeowner. Note, all vehicles in a manned community are tagged and documented, so whether you're a visitor or resident, they are making it more difficult to get away with it. Also applies to excessive noise from music and why are these ignoramus' always buying the worst speakers? It is so distorted and repulsive! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I can see Private Security Officer doing traffic control at events they are patrolling such as concerts, parades, Etc. Here at my University we have Campus Safety Aide who are student workers employed by the Police Department to augment their Patrol Division. They are responsible for reporting suspicious activity and hazardous conditions, checking buildings for door and window violations, providing safety escorts to any destination within the campus, and assisting police officers in non-enforcement activities (i.e., traffic point control). If you think about it they sound almost like security officers. So I think if they can do it so can Security Officers. (with proper training of course) |
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| Posted over 3 years ago HELL NO....I invite a security officer to try and stop me. Isn't a vehicle stop considered a seizure? Whether or not that person is on Private Property or not. In Honor of the Fallen. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Riot says ...
In Honor of the Fallen. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago There are small towns here where I live that deliberately hire private security officers to outsource their traffic control. Not to mention a security officer can be granted the right to write citations above and byond criminal tresspass on the private property he is hired to protect. Parking enforcement is not trained Law Enforcement. Now the corallary to this is I also think that private security shouldn't hand out tickets on public roadways that is what LEO's are for. I have to admit that seeing the Fire Marshall or Game department handing out traffic citations (which they CAN do) is hilarious. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago The article was well written. However, it is very broad. As a LEO and a Private Security Services owner I have some serious issues about security making traffic stops. In an above post someone came close to asking the correct question about a traffic stop. It is not a seizure, but an arrest. Now I know this varies from state to stae such as in PA where Security is hired by municipalities under the "235 act powers" and are able to basically do what real LEO's do. But, as you mentioned, in VA we have a step in between Municipal LEOs and Security. They are called Special Conservators of the Peace and they are sworn County Law Enforcement Officers with statutory powers of arrest. The "Special Police" title/position has been done away with since 15 September 2004. In VA Armed Security Officers have very limited powers of arrest and the code states (translated) that SO's have arrest powers limited to retail theft. They can also make arrests for tresspassing, but that's about it. Unarmed SO's can watch the event and call the cops. With SO's getting away with performing traffic stops in certain communities in VA, they are opening themselves up to the same situation "on property" as if they made a stop or pursuit off property and there was an accident or other mishap. The really bad thing here is that a LOT of the security companies doing traffic stops using armed and / or unarmed security officers is that a LOT of them are taking short cuts basically doing some illegal things. Such as: patrol vehicles registered and (if you're lucky) insured as personal vehicles. Taking their Insurance Certificate, a bottle of white out and heading to the copier, then off to the typewriter. Paying people under the table to avoid Workers Comp Insurance and Liability Insurance premium, not to mention taxes. Don't believe me then please explain how this works: On company has bid a couple of contracts at $12/hr. My insurance would eat up most of that! I figure that I have roughly $10-$15/hr overhead depending on the site and the level of employee (ASO, USO, SCOP, etc). So for the sake of argument, let's say that my overhead is only $8/hr per officer. He's only paying his people $4 an hour??? I think not. This same company has been known to use USO's on contracts calling for SCOPs. Now to be fair, while the businesses conductiong business in a less than ethical and less than legal manner bear the lions share of the blame, our governing body doesn't seem to care. This person has a habbit of when one company gets into trouble, transfer the contracts to another company, dissolve the trouble company and start a new one. Supposedly he has been doing this for years. And he keeps on doing business as usual. At least with the SCOP option, there is some oversight by the Court and the Local PD. So, good points, but I strongly disagree with Security being allowed to make traffic stops. And when you consider that for the most part the average wage (in VA anyways) for ARMED SO's is less than someone flipping burgers at McDonalds or the clerk at the 7-11! You have to ask yourself why a young person (older is assumed to be retirees especially from law enforcement and wants to stay closer to the community) would want to work for less money. What is their education? What are their carreer goals? Do they have a "Billy Badge" attitude? What is their motivation to work for barely more than minimum rage? |
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| Posted over 3 years ago deputy_dawg_16 says ...
It's not a seizure, nor an arrest. It's a temporary detainment. Every sitizen has the right to detain a person or arrest if a crime has occured in their presence. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Myself, I can see some problems with this. I feel the calls to the police would increase and this would take them away from more important assignments. I am also certain their insurance carrier would be thrilled with this function regarding the potential of civil action. If you detain someone to long it goes from a detainment to an arrest. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago chiefdennis says ...
I agree, over all this article touches on a unique aspect of security. Sadly, I would side on error, most security officers are not trained adequately to handle this task, thus why in my experience as a S/O (with a patrol division) we avoid initiating anything thing remotely close to a T-Stop. We only respond (if theres a "RP" or victim) to accidents or situations were LE has contacted us about a situation developing, but even then we are asked to "check and advise" the seriousness of the situation, not make contact. But as stated in the article ONLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. I think that in bigger cities this article touches on the need to be aware of what a security officer can do, but in reality should avoid. The temptation, and lack of EVOC, vehicle contact, situational awareness and other training tools that LE uses, makes this an "over zealous" S/O's dream, and ultimately could end in tragedy..... PS-Thankfully 90% of our patrol division is either active/retired LE or certifiable, so they have been through all the necessary courses. But still we avoid initating any contact in terms of a T-Stop, heavily favor a reactive response on this one.
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| Posted about 3 years ago My view on this is if you are a security offocer on a large reservation or company fascility where you have several miles of roads then yes you have the authority to enforce traffic laws (ON your site). However like all security officers unless you have been hired by a small town for that purpose then you have no authority to do so off your appointed site. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago bu55c says ...
Traffic enforcement on a privately owned and access controlled facility can range from very basic to fairly involved for security officers. I work at a chemical plant with heavy commercial traffic, privately owned vehicles and contractor operated equipment of all kinds. We are tasked by our client to enforce very specific rules for entry, exit, inspection, scaling, offloading, safety compliance, parking and speed enforcement. All of these are meant to do one thing....make the plant as safe as possible, so any warnings or citations are meant to educate first and always. The tiny percentage of people who do not recognize the rules are progressively ticketed, documented and eventually denied access to the facility. Maintaining a professional demeanor and not straying from the specific policies makes our job easier. Oh yes, we NEVER pursue a violator off plant, but simply ask them to wait to speak with us at the exit gate where all their info is captured electronically for future reference as needed. If the problem needs LEO involvement we have dispatch call immediately and meet them with our supervisor as needed. Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil. Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. - President Ronald Reagan "You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right, we don't...... press hard maam there are 3 copies." |
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| Posted about 3 years ago sat233238 says ...
I can definately understand what you are saying. Especially where Department of Transportation laws are in question. And yes I totally agree you never persue a violator off your site for any reason, abandoning your post is a serious offense for any reason. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago bu55c says ...
Dude you are so full of crap. The state YOU live in does not recognize private security officers as having authority to enforce any laws. If you are hired by a small town you would have to be a certified law enforement officer and possess a state peace officer certification issued by WACJTC. You would then technically speaking be a Deputy Marshal (or Marshal) if the municipality was in fact a town. |
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| Posted about 3 years ago Scurge says ...
I agree with Scurge.. You are full of it.. Most Security Guards (Officers) observe and report. You can't do much of anything unless it is in your contract or the client says so. It is ultimately up to the client on what they want done. Usually if you are on a big property all you can do is check the property for anything that is out of the ordinary. Some locations could require that a security company issues "No Parking" tickets if a vehicle is improperly parked. They can also have security sit at a guard shack and monitor vehicles going on or off the property. So basically Security Guards can't enforce traffic laws.. If you have a traffic issue then call the Police. That is what they are for. Security are only allowed to have Authority on the property where the contract is. Once you step foot off the property then you are just a regular everyday person. Security has no authority off property. Now if you are working on a site that deals with the Federal Government such as the DOD or somethign else then things might be different as far as enforcing rules. It just depends on the contract. Most places will not allow you to do traffice enforcement. Where I work at we can write parking violations and patrol the property. We have an actual City Police Officer that takes care of traffic enforcement and stuff like that.
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| Posted about 3 years ago bu55c says ...
Lying sack of DUNG. Small towns DO NOT hire private security for traffic enforcement. They either contract with the county to provide ALL LE services or they have their own LE personnel. You have GOT to know someone named Josh H... because you tell just as many of not more lies than he does. Those lies are just as stupid and ignorant as his. Goofballs such as yourself give security personnel a bad name. You should go flip burgers at the King or drive a cab or sidewalk sweeper anything that does not allow you to carry a weapon. The closest thing Private Security comes to having LE duties is a few Loss Prevention personnel have limited reserve commissions to issue a NOC for theft and trespassing. The Chief or Sheriff, whom ever has primary territorial jurisdiction) is the one who grants that authrority. Some LP's let that little bit of power go to their head and got slammed when they eventually stepped on their junk. That would be you if you were ever given a limited commission. I hate LIARS!!! |






