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TSOs to Wear New Uniforms Beginning Sept. 11


Training required before wearing the new uniform and badges
 

 


 

 


Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) across the country will start wearing the new blue uniform and metal badge beginning Sept. 11. A badging ceremony will take place and officers will be required to complete training before being issued a badge and permitted to wear the new uniform. Additional uniform and badge accountability training will take place as part of TSA’s Checkpoint Evolution program that will reinforce the importance of pride and professionalism.
 
The new uniform package consists of six shirts, three pairs of trousers, a sweater vest, two ties, two pairs of shoulder boards, a nameplate, and a belt. The metal badge is worn on the left side of the chest and will be individually numbered. Numbers will be stored in a database and linked to the officer responsible for that badge. Each officer that is issued a badge will be required to sign a TSO Badge Certification Form that outlines how badges are worn and other related responsibilities. If a new uniform does not fit properly, TSOs can wear the white uniforms without the metal badge while waiting for a new uniform that fits.
 
Members of the workforce — including local TSO advisory boards, a national uniform board, the National Advisory Council, and leadership — were directly involved in the extensive selection process for the new uniform.
 
"TSA is excited to deploy the new uniforms and badges in keeping with our efforts to evolve the workforce and ensure public confidence," said Mo McGowan, TSA Assistant Administrator for Security Operations. "Our officers are trained professionals who are responsible for protecting the traveling public, and it is time to recognize the important role they play in ensuring our nation's transportation security." 

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Any agency that requires it's officers to train in wearing a badge and/or uniform has deeper issues and should focus more to "evolve the workforce and ensure public confidence."

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Also, this is the same agency who harassed a State Dept. Agent for carrying a knife, but had no problem with his firearm he was allowed to carry on the plane.

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Also, this is the same agency who harassed a State Dept. Agent for carrying a knife, but had no problem with his firearm he was allowed to carry on the plane.



Why am I not surprised by this?

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Allen705 says ...



Also, this is the same agency who harassed a State Dept. Agent for carrying a knife, but had no problem with his firearm he was allowed to carry on the plane.



Why am I not surprised by this?



Same thing happened to 2 of our deputies when returning with a prisoner on an extradition run.  S&W .45's on their hips, but the knucklehead TSA's didn't like it that one of them had a clip knife!  Morons!!!!!!!


I'm sure the new uniforms will make them all smarter and more professional, though.


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I friend of mine from border patrol tells me that some of the airport in the south west have already had problems with TSO's miss-using there badges. This is just the begining.

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No matter what they wear, until they get more professional folks in there, people who want to get a start in security or maybe law enforcement and have some sound judgement, no uniform is going to help. My uniform now doesn't make me a professional Airman, my training and judgement do.


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They are not sworn officers and don't have arrest powers , it is only a matter of time when they are stopped and badge an officer on a traffic stop.

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No matter what they wear, until they get more professional folks in there, people who want to get a start in security or maybe law enforcement and have some sound judgement, no uniform is going to help. My uniform now doesn't make me a professional Airman, my training and judgement do.



I ithink if they wanted more professionalism, they'd have to pay more money & also screen their selections better at the same time. Maybe if they recruited MORE candidates from the military & retired LEOs & Corrections and LESS from civilian security guard companies they might have a better pool of employees. Too bad common sense just isn't common enough in this world....

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I agree that they need to be more professional, but you also have to remember that they do a thankless job. It's not easy staying on your toes for hours watching for potential hazards to air travelers. There are not too many LEOs that would do their job. Possibly the training that they have to undergo will emphasize their role as well as the policies under which they operate and make them informed of the consequences of exceeding their mandate. It goes without saying that impersonators should be prosecuted to the extent of the law.

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And here they go again.  TSA to the rescue, keeping us safe from large breasts and underwire bras. 


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I would like to comment on this issue and the fact that these comments are all negative but this is professional?  This is the type of thing that one would expect from a TSA Officer or at least from the way many of you make it sound this is what one would expect.  The TSA Officers are sworn and there is a large number of them that are prior service military.  I would also like to inform you that there are also many Officers that have Bachelor degrees not to mention those who are working on their Master's. 


There are many who serve in any position of any job who are not what you would expect to be in the capacity they are in but someone they made it there.  This is true in every office, department, military unit etc.. 


I myself am an Officer with TSA and an Army Vet. with a BA and half way to having my MBA.  My pay is comparable to any other law enforcement agent and I really do not want arrest authority.  I spend my day enforcing regulations that I do not always understand or have to agree with however it is my job to enforce them just as it is any other employee of any business.  I am more than happy to perform my duties without having to worry about if i am going to make it home to my family.  


LEO's  who travel by air are permitted certain privileges but like anyone they are still required to follow regulations.  If there are any questions about what can be done the individuals in question can have their Chief or Capt. contact TSA for a list of what can be done according to Federal regulations and not by an individual TSA Officer.  They are human just as many Police, Military or any other Officers who have to do a job and go home. 


As for the training for the badge... it sounds stupid but there is more to the training than just a badge and how to wear it.  Clearly anyone can put on a badge but the class is to train the Officer about the new Changes in the way things are to be done and other new updates in SOP.. but if I can learn how to put on a badge that would be such a help... I hope it takes a long time to train so I can get overtime.


 

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I would like to comment on this issue and the fact that these comments are all negative but this is professional?  This is the type of thing that one would expect from a TSA Officer or at least from the way many of you make it sound this is what one would expect.  The TSA Officers are sworn and there is a large number of them that are prior service military.  I would also like to inform you that there are also many Officers that have Bachelor degrees not to mention those who are working on their Master's. 


There are many who serve in any position of any job who are not what you would expect to be in the capacity they are in but someone they made it there.  This is true in every office, department, military unit etc.. 


I myself am an Officer with TSA and an Army Vet. with a BA and half way to having my MBA.  My pay is comparable to any other law enforcement agent and I really do not want arrest authority.  I spend my day enforcing regulations that I do not always understand or have to agree with however it is my job to enforce them just as it is any other employee of any business.  I am more than happy to perform my duties without having to worry about if i am going to make it home to my family.  


LEO's  who travel by air are permitted certain privileges but like anyone they are still required to follow regulations.  If there are any questions about what can be done the individuals in question can have their Chief or Capt. contact TSA for a list of what can be done according to Federal regulations and not by an individual TSA Officer.  They are human just as many Police, Military or any other Officers who have to do a job and go home. 


As for the training for the badge... it sounds stupid but there is more to the training than just a badge and how to wear it.  Clearly anyone can put on a badge but the class is to train the Officer about the new Changes in the way things are to be done and other new updates in SOP.. but if I can learn how to put on a badge that would be such a help... I hope it takes a long time to train so I can get overtime.


 



I can have an open mind. I don't often buy the whole public perception thing.... but when I have personally experienced negative experiences at several diff. airports, I have to say the public perception of this agency is substained. Your co-workers were rude, impatient, poorly trained, and now I'm letting others be known about it. if that's unprofessional, I'm sorry, but you should really lobby your agency to work on more training for public relations.


Officers have the discretion to enforce some rules over others, and to give many officers grief who are allowed to carry a firearm, but somehow have a problem with their knife is just ludicris! Marvin, nobody is attacking you, as I'm sure with your background you bring much more to this job than your average co-worker.


In my line of work, we have several officers who are VERY green. Not with in-experience, but in life in general. They are the ones who take longer to train and seem to take longer to get law enforcement and to get the bigger picture.


Now keep in mind, I used to work on a contract basis with TSA and have observed these guys up close, as well as been a client several times.

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I would like to comment on this issue and the fact that these comments are all negative but this is professional?  This is the type of thing that one would expect from a TSA Officer or at least from the way many of you make it sound this is what one would expect.  The TSA Officers are sworn and there is a large number of them that are prior service military.  I would also like to inform you that there are also many Officers that have Bachelor degrees not to mention those who are working on their Master's. 


There are many who serve in any position of any job who are not what you would expect to be in the capacity they are in but someone they made it there.  This is true in every office, department, military unit etc.. 


I myself am an Officer with TSA and an Army Vet. with a BA and half way to having my MBA.  My pay is comparable to any other law enforcement agent and I really do not want arrest authority.  I spend my day enforcing regulations that I do not always understand or have to agree with however it is my job to enforce them just as it is any other employee of any business.  I am more than happy to perform my duties without having to worry about if i am going to make it home to my family.  


LEO's  who travel by air are permitted certain privileges but like anyone they are still required to follow regulations.  If there are any questions about what can be done the individuals in question can have their Chief or Capt. contact TSA for a list of what can be done according to Federal regulations and not by an individual TSA Officer.  They are human just as many Police, Military or any other Officers who have to do a job and go home. 


As for the training for the badge... it sounds stupid but there is more to the training than just a badge and how to wear it.  Clearly anyone can put on a badge but the class is to train the Officer about the new Changes in the way things are to be done and other new updates in SOP.. but if I can learn how to put on a badge that would be such a help... I hope it takes a long time to train so I can get overtime.


 



 Marvin, I think you are missing the point of the complaints about the TSA.  We are talking about over-zealous actions that do not comply with the regs.  And just like many major corporations, the TSA appears to think that new uniforms will make a difference in the attitudes and actions of their employees. A quote from the article: "TSA is excited to deploy the new uniforms and badges in keeping with our efforts to evolve the workforce and ensure public confidence," said Mo McGowan, TSA Assistant Administrator for Security Operations. That is simply a joke,and that is what we are making fun of.  Corporate leadership that has no idea how to get results.  New uniforms and  badges will not restore confidence that has been lost due to the stupid and offensive actions of those who will now wear those uniforms and badges.


When an agency gets a reputation for rogue operators, the good ones either have to force a change in their out-of-line compadres, or suffer the dislike of others that see the insanity for what it is.  Sorry, that's life.  If the attitude of real sworn officers of the law offends you, maybe you should figure out why they have that attitude (shouldn't be hard from the bad press and their experiences)  If you can make a difference, do so and be proud of what you can do.  If you can't make a difference, perhaps it's time to abandon ship, because it aint gonna get any better with bureaucrats or corporate idiots leading the way.


As to the comments and feelings about TSA having metal badges, remember that a lot of cops have had to deal with SO's and SG's that tried to be more than they were allowed to be.  If you aren't a real cop, don't claim to be one, it ticks off real LEO's.  So you see, there is a legitimate concern born of prior experience that this will not end well. 


I hope that you can make a difference and I wish you the best of luck.  However, do not expect to change minds with words only.  You gotta walk the walk to get respect.


You said:  "I myself am an Officer with TSA and an Army Vet. with a BA and half way to having my MBA.  My pay is comparable to any other law enforcement agent and I really do not want arrest authority."  I find this somewhat offensive, as it appears that you are equating your pay, vet status, and college with being an LEO.  I don't care how much you make, I do appreciate your service, I am an Army vet also, and your college education is more of a hindrance than a help in understanding LEO's.  Not impressed.   I am immensely glad that you do not have arrest authority, as you have definitely not earned it. 


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Untill they place sworn lawenforcement in there place they will never change there ways....eight dollars and hour does not get you much

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Though not classified information, the process for LEOs flying armed is different than a regular passenger. If you get flack from a regular screener for something out of the regs while going through the process, well that’s your issue in most cases.
 
I am not a screener and doubt I would ever be one; they are under more pressure than some of us can ever appreciate. They must screen thousands of folks every day, not just for prohibited items but also indicators of possible nefarious intent. I am not saying that some screeners may go overboard but I feel confident that the majority are doing their job and yet still get flack for it.
 
I have no objection to giving them badges, there are nearly as many non sworn folks working for the G and other agencies from state to local that have badges and use them appropriately than actual gun toting, arrest authority agents, officers, deputies and the like.
 
As far as the screening process being conducted by “sworn law enforcement” that would pose some legal hurdles, being that the process is not at the border and not being done by authorized CBP Officers, it would open the door to those legal issues if something illegal was found in the course of the screening process.
 
The legal issues of cops doing screenings at airports, train and bus stations as part of a security function has been discussed and the legal opine is that the overall process is and should be performed as a separate and distinct function, away from law enforcement actions.
 
 

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Don't forget, it's also the same agency/agents strip searching American soldiers returning home from the front lines.

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No matter what they wear, until they get more professional folks in there, people who want to get a start in security or maybe law enforcement and have some sound judgement, no uniform is going to help. My uniform now doesn't make me a professional Airman, my training and judgement do.



I have to agree with you, there are some good folks that work there but it all boils down to the training, without that they are not going to get the respect


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Unless and until they get rid of the elderly or fat or slovenly TSA Officers and they start acting like professionals instead of complete idiots on a power trip that prefer to hassle LEO's and military servicemen while allowing suspicious individuals to board then you will continue to have people look down upon TSA agents as nothing more than buffoons. This is from personal experience and observations as well as reports that are first-hand from others that I trust and not stories from a friend of a friend.

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Though not classified information, the process for LEOs flying armed is different than a regular passenger. If you get flack from a regular screener for something out of the regs while going through the process, well that’s your issue in most cases.
 
I am not a screener and doubt I would ever be one; they are under more pressure than some of us can ever appreciate. They must screen thousands of folks every day, not just for prohibited items but also indicators of possible nefarious intent. I am not saying that some screeners may go overboard but I feel confident that the majority are doing their job and yet still get flack for it.
 
I have no objection to giving them badges, there are nearly as many non sworn folks working for the G and other agencies from state to local that have badges and use them appropriately than actual gun toting, arrest authority agents, officers, deputies and the like.
 
As far as the screening process being conducted by “sworn law enforcement” that would pose some legal hurdles, being that the process is not at the border and not being done by authorized CBP Officers, it would open the door to those legal issues if something illegal was found in the course of the screening process.
 
The legal issues of cops doing screenings at airports, train and bus stations as part of a security function has been discussed and the legal opine is that the overall process is and should be performed as a separate and distinct function, away from law enforcement actions.
 
 
 

It has been decided time and time again the Leo's can search people if there is no expectations of privacy, stadiums airports subways etc. and that there is a risk to the public.


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What a joke!!

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The federal goberment screwed up.  The original screeners were doing a good job.  They followed the guidelines.  But not the goberment had to put unqualified people at the check pointe and make them goberment employees.  The should have make the airport police goberment employees and let the private screeners do their jobs.  They broke something that was fixed.


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The federal goberment screwed up.  The original screeners were doing a good job.  They followed the guidelines.  But not the goberment had to put unqualified people at the check pointe and make them goberment employees.  The should have make the airport police goberment employees and let the private screeners do their jobs.  They broke something that was fixed.



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I friend of mine from border patrol tells me that some of the airport in the south west have already had problems with TSO's miss-using there badges. This is just the begining.



Cant wait to get "badged" by TSA. That'll be sweet. Lets all try not to fall into traffic with laughter, that is dangerous.


 


I can appreciate the monotiny and thanklessness of the TSA's every day mission. But damnit, you seen some of these rancid attitudes connected to fat bodies? How can they be taken seriously. They need to pay more money, for better people, and purge any of the excess idiosy that is there now.


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Marvin, how does over 100,000 personnel complaints sit well with you??  That is unacceptable on any level, for any agency. If you are what you say you are, and we wouldn't know because that was your first post (i.e. did no introduction); you are in the minority of TSA employees. The things people are posting here are PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. If you read a little bit on the forums here, instead of jumping to conclusions that the comments here are unprofessional of LEO's, you'll see that they've experienced first hand what they're talking about.


 


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Crap, didn't see he posted that long ago, and can't read this now. Funny how the profile says Federal Agent, yet the badge says officer. Federal agent badges I've seen say "Agent"


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Are there going to be any fitness requirements our any policies about appearance?


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Guys I was an Airport Police Officer before 9/11.  The little regional airport where I was an officer had the most professional check point I have ever seen.  They were collection box cutters long before 9/11.  TSA can not live up to the people that were there before them.  They fired all the good people and kept those that were about to be fired by the private security agency.  No one ever got throught these guys with anything that would be used as an effective weapon.  Of course back then pocket knives were ok.  I have arrested several people for trying to get a weapon through the checkpoint.  Once a guy tried to get two Bowie knives through in a wheel chair.  If they were left along and the police made federal employees so they could enforce FAA laws there would not be a problem with air travel today.  This is just the way an old Arkansas country boy sees it.


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I would like to comment on this issue and the fact that these comments are all negative but this is professional?  This is the type of thing that one would expect from a TSA Officer or at least from the way many of you make it sound this is what one would expect.  The TSA Officers are sworn and there is a large number of them that are prior service military.  I would also like to inform you that there are also many Officers that have Bachelor degrees not to mention those who are working on their Master's. 


There are many who serve in any position of any job who are not what you would expect to be in the capacity they are in but someone they made it there.  This is true in every office, department, military unit etc.. 


I myself am an Officer with TSA and an Army Vet. with a BA and half way to having my MBA.  My pay is comparable to any other law enforcement agent and I really do not want arrest authority.  I spend my day enforcing regulations that I do not always understand or have to agree with however it is my job to enforce them just as it is any other employee of any business.  I am more than happy to perform my duties without having to worry about if i am going to make it home to my family.  


LEO's  who travel by air are permitted certain privileges but like anyone they are still required to follow regulations.  If there are any questions about what can be done the individuals in question can have their Chief or Capt. contact TSA for a list of what can be done according to Federal regulations and not by an individual TSA Officer.  They are human just as many Police, Military or any other Officers who have to do a job and go home. 


As for the training for the badge... it sounds stupid but there is more to the training than just a badge and how to wear it.  Clearly anyone can put on a badge but the class is to train the Officer about the new Changes in the way things are to be done and other new updates in SOP.. but if I can learn how to put on a badge that would be such a help... I hope it takes a long time to train so I can get overtime.


 Ok Exactly what are TSA officers Sworn to do? They do not have arrest powers, they are not armed. So what type of oath do they take? I have checked the pay grade and sorry, but a TSA officer in my area does not have a pay rate comparable to mine. I make way more. I also have a Bachelors and am working on my masters.


The fact that you have identified yourself as a special agent on your profile, yet you state on here that you don't have or want a job where you have to worry about not going home at night or after your shift truly shows that you have no concept of what a Law Enforcement Officer or special agent is or what it means to wear or carry a police, deputy or special agent badge. Take a visit to the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial and look at all of the Special Agent's and Federal Police Officers who have their name on the wall. Then maybe you will get a clue. 


Why does my Chief or Capt. have to contact the TSA to get a copy of federal regulations? I think that I am very capable of doing this myself.


Explain exactly how you can enforce a regulation that you do not understand? If I don't undrstand a law then I can't enforce it now can I? How would I?


It takes more then just training. Besides if you take a TROLL and give them an official uniform and give them a badge and train them on the rules. Guess what! At the end of the day they are still a TROLL....


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I respect what the TSA is doing. I think the officers at the checkpoints are doing a difficult job under stressful conditions. I would not want to do it. I have had the opportunity to work with the TSA and have met many good screeners who care to do a good job. I have also met many who are only there to collect a paycheck and spread hate. It has been my experience that the sharp officers seem to be promoted to duties out of screening or positions that involve less public contact. The TSA staff outside of screening is highly competent and very professional. The staff outside of screening is doing jobs that protect the transportation infrastructure that most people are not aware of unless you make it a point to do some research. 


Without giving sensitive information away in relating a story from a former FAA Special Agent, who is now with the TSA, the overall screening done now is head and shoulders above what it was prior to the TSAs inception. The problems with the screening workforce are many of the same problems the private companies had. I think in the hiring standards of the screening workforce need to be raised along with the pay. It should also be easier to fire poor performers. Now the government has more control over the problems. That alone is an improvement. 
 
On the badges, it is no big deal. The TSOs are federal employees enforcing regulations that come from federal law. They are NOT law enforcement officers, similar to other uniformed employees of the federal government. As most of you know, the checkpoints have constant contact or communications with LEOs. If an issues arises that an LEO is needed the TSOs can get one. 
 
According to the US Census Bureau, 612 billion people flew US air carriers in 2003. 100,000 complaints compared to 612 billion travelers is not too bad. That is like less than 0.25 percent. 
 
I realize the TSA screeners are trying to do a job that must be done that I would not want to do. 

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