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Posted over 6 years ago

 

I was wondering if anyone other school has a restrictive policy on working off duty. UMKC won't allow us to work off duty because according to policy, we can't make any money from using the university property (uniform and duty gear). If anyone else has had this and gotten the powers that be to change the policy, let me know. I'd like to be enjoying the $34/hour minimum the city gets for standing around looking pretty.


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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

That's a retarded rule, but I can understand the uniform part. I think you should NOT use your agency's uniform at a bar, or other such places.


I use my own equipement for off-duty work. Only the gun belongs to the school. If they said I couldn't use their gun, that is fine, I do have many others.


My suggestion, buy your own gear, and wear an off-duty uniform. We can work just about anywhere, including hooters and any bars.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Our department allows our officers to work off duty wearing non-identifying police uniform.  Some of the guys use old uniforms and replace our patches and badge with generic police patches and a sew on generic police badge.  Still have to get approval from the Chief and still required to license through the County.   Works out pretty well for the officers that do pick up OT.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

that's crazy and then some!


At our department, the rule of thumb is.  If you are working anywhere off duty, you represent this University and by that standard, you will wear our uniform.


I would suggest the same as the others in purchasing your own equipment and make sure that you cover yourself and not violate any policies for your organization.  remember that you are held to department policy, but they will try to turn around and make you succumb to administrative policy as well.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I agree that its a stupid policy, its pretty complcated here and it sucks. I am really more interested if someone has had and changed a similar policy, not how to get around it.


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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

pdgirlkc says ...



I was wondering if anyone other school has a restrictive policy on working off duty. UMKC won't allow us to work off duty because according to policy, we can't make any money from using the university property (uniform and duty gear). If anyone else has had this and gotten the powers that be to change the policy, let me know. I'd like to be enjoying the $34/hour minimum the city gets for standing around looking pretty.



We have the same issue.  So our policy says we will not use any department issued equipment.  So when we work off duty all the equipment we use is our own - everything including the weapon.  So most of us use generic "police" raid shirts and jeans.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

I guess we are luck we can us our cars, uniforms, duty gear. I thought it was like this every where.

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Rate This | Posted over 6 years ago

 

Can you just purchase the uniform and duty gear? You work one gig and the stuff will be paid for, the other question: are you unionized? is the person that made the policy still in charge of policy?


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Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

We have to put a request for Off Duty employment to our chief.  It can't be anything involving security or police work.

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Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

For some agencies, the uniform issue is an image deal. I used to work for an agency that would not allow us to use any equipment except for the pistol (which I carried my own) and the bullet proof vest. All in all, if you get into any type of situation while working a part-time job, your powers of arrest come from the agency employing you so they might as well just let you wear the uniform and equipment.


I do have to say that I'm finally glad that I'm in a position where I don't have to part-time jobs any more. While working as a Texas Alcoholic Beverage Enforcement Agents, I've seen more police officers get in trouble working part-time jobs than anything else. In Texas, a peace officer working for a place that has a alcohol permit is held to the same laws and standards as the bar owner themselves. So if a peace officer has that "out of sight, out of mind, just pay me my money" mentality, they could face jail time just by turning a blind eye to certain offenses.


Let's face it. Many of the officers working part time jobs don't really want to enforce the laws, but want the time to go by smoothly and get their pay checks at the end of the night. We (cops) are the worlds worst about living beyond our means (and I'm just as guilty).


You look at other people who make similar pay and you don't see them working two to three jobs like many police officers do. I finally had to stop and realize that if I have to work a part-time to afford something then either 1.) I need to cut back on spending/buying new things, or 2.) Find me a higher paying job!


It never fails. I always see officers coming up and showing off the latest 4x4 truck they bought, or the boat, or both! Usually it is followed by, "I'm sure glad I'm working those part-times, otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford it!"


We have also gotten so money hungry on our part-time jobs that often we price ourselves out of a job. Many businesses are realizing that they are being scalped and are going back to private security because they can't afford officers. Cities are also passing ordinances to allow for certain civilians to direct traffic because they can't afford to pay $35/hr for traffic direction. 


I'm working at an agency now where we are not allowed off-duty peace officer jobs, and quite frankly, I'm glad. Yes, I had to budget a little, but I now have time to spend weekends off with family and friends instead of constantly working 50+ hrs a week just to earn a buck.


I'm gonna get off my soap box now. Don't take this as off-duty employment bashing, I just feel that officers need to put things in perspective and that wearing the badge is sometimes more than just earning a few extra bucks on the side.

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

brat16 says ...



We have to put a request for Off Duty employment to our chief.  It can't be anything involving security or police work.



i don't understand, if it can't involve security or police work, why is it that you need approval from the chief??  I just work an off duty security job and if i didn't have that 100,000 liability i couldn't use the departmental equipment, badge, weapon...so i left the shit at home and wore bdu's t-shirt for 25hr..