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Why is the TSA so far out of control? (Closed 4-8-09)

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Tahoes_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 6 years ago

 

Oh MAN!!! I can't WAIT for one of them to fling a badge at me on a traffic stop.  I better not find anything more than 3 ounces of liquid in their vehicle and it BETTER be sealed in a one quart sized ziploc (TM) or it's MINE!


If I have offended anyone, so be it.

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The good people that work as TSA people are definitely in the minority. I do not have to go by what the media says, I have seen this and been subject to this personally many times. There was a time that I traveled a good bit both for pleasure and business and EVERY time I was singled out for extra and personal searches. Now I understood it on some occasions as the ticket was purchased late and one-way but still, I am a W/M in my 50's, look like a LEO and have my badge with me at all times. The moment they see the badge go through the X-ray machine I am pulled out of line and patted down and sometimes nearly strip searched. Dude, get real! I am one of those that you want on the plane if anything happens! I have even been pulled out of line when boarding to go through an additional second search! These TSA people have almost always been rude and surly towards me even though I cooperate. At the same time I see people of Middle-Eastern decent, some wearing full Muslim regalia walk right past without a second glance from the TSA even though the other passengers sometimes even ask why in the hell they didn't even look at them! Once I was a guest of a top Executive for a major airline flying gratis in first class with a VIP ticket. Naturally I was searched by TSA when I entered the passenger area and then again as I was boarding the plane I was pulled from the first class line and subjected to another near strip search! My wife was allowed to continue on both times. Yes both times they observed this VIP ticket AND my Police ID. The airline hostesses ad gate people were aghast that this happened to me and apologized profusely for the way I was treated. This fat little TSA agent that stopped and searched me at the entrance to the plane was uneducated based on her speech. She saw my ID and even after I told her that I am the one that she would want on a plane should anything happen she ignored me and just smiled, or I should say smirked and continued to hold me up until everyone else had boarded going through my briefcase, shoes, wanding me over and over again, etc. I felt badly for the hostess as she was beside herself with worry as she had never seen one of the VIP passes like I had but had heard about them and was worried I would be angry with them. Even the pilot apologized when I finally entered the plane. Not their fault and I told them so and thanked them for their concern. I think they complained to the TSA people. There is no doubt in my mind that I was treated that way simply because I was carrying a badge and this bitch probably got a ticket or arrested etc by the Jacksonville Police in the past and this was her 'payback', just like it is for many of my brothers and sisters. TSA needs to be disbanded and a 'real' agency with competent people being hired and trained.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

If it weren't for being able to fly armed and get to skip the security checks, I would never fly.  These people are jokes. 


 

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

EGO with fed badge......I like to drive


GallupM77.........lead or follow

Psco_profile1_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

just my 2cents.


Everyone knows how most TSA screeners are. So why put yourself in a position to make matters worse? Like the nipple ring incident. You know it will set off the metal detector, so why wear it. You know if it does set off the metal detector, the TSA screener will be asking questions and  possibly a search will be involved....so why wear it? I've seen people get upset because they have to remove their shoes and belts. So why did you wear those 8 inch lace up boots in the first place? You knew they would have to be removed, so why get upset? (btw, this was not a uniformed military personnel) Some people just aint never satisfied. And speaking about those highly sophisticated x-ray machines, people should not feel as if they're being violated as some critics have said. Its more non-invasive than a regular x-ray machine wherein you have to remove clothing. Anyone see when Beyonce was taken away for a "Random" search. How "Random" do you think that was?


TSA could do a lot better, matter of fact, eliminate TSA screeners and let LE or military take over. That way there will be far more integrity (I hope).


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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I don't think that either they or the FAM program have actually made us quantitatively that much safer, but they are also in a no-win position.  If they do a thorough search and don't find anything, people say they go overboard.  They do a less-thorough search, something gets through, and people scream that they are ineffective.  And before any coppers or COs have the stones to point out the tests in which contraband was intentionally taken through checkpoints to test their effectiveness, I don't know of a LE station of detention center that doesn't have a collection of contraband that was found during an initial search.


I fly a fair amount, and I really haven't had any bad expereinces with them, at least to this point.  On one occasion I was transporting a LOT of firearms (not work related) and the TSA guys were great.  There are morons in every field, you get what you pay for.


 


We all know how it is in this line of work.  Everyone knows how we should do our job, and will complain at the drop of a hat.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

nterog8 says ...



I don't think that either they or the FAM program have actually made us quantitatively that much safer, but they are also in a no-win position.  If they do a thorough search and don't find anything, people say they go overboard.  They do a less-thorough search, something gets through, and people scream that they are ineffective.  And before any coppers or COs have the stones to point out the tests in which contraband was intentionally taken through checkpoints to test their effectiveness, I don't know of a LE station of detention center that doesn't have a collection of contraband that was found during an initial search.


I fly a fair amount, and I really haven't had any bad expereinces with them, at least to this point.  On one occasion I was transporting a LOT of firearms (not work related) and the TSA guys were great.  There are morons in every field, you get what you pay for.


 


We all know how it is in this line of work.  Everyone knows how we should do our job, and will complain at the drop of a hat.



Sir, I hope you aren't referring to the TSA being in OUR line of work....their job is nothing like that of an LEO.  My mother has a reconstructed knee with metal in it.  She even has a card from her Dr's office stating that she has metal in her knee.  When she went through TSA, she set off the detector.  She showed them the card, and they ran the wand over her.  The wand only sounded over her knee.  (She was wearing a dress so it's not like she couldve had anything under her clothing near her knee)  Apparently this wasn't good enough.  They took her to the glass room and made her expose a lot more of herself than she felt comfortable.  These people are just morons.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

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According to the article, "A spokesman said that out of 2 billion passengers screened nationwide since 9-11, there have been only 110,000 abuse complaints."

 


ONLY 110,000 abuse complaints... now, let's say for the sake of argument that only 1% of those complaints is valid....that is still one hell of a lot of civil rights violations.... and the TSA is gonna stand on that principle, yet how many times have we heard stuff like...

Unsafe Skies? TSA Missed 6 out of 10 'Bombs'

TSA Report Shows That Fake Bombs Passed Security Checks in Chicago, Los Angeles

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3746204&page=1


Loaded gun slips through airport security

(Ronald Reagan Airport in Washington DC)


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/01/23/airport.gun/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


Orlando airport's efforts fail to prevent gun, drug smuggling

Guns and drugs are getting through, Orlando and Puerto Rico officials say.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-oiasecurity2808jan28,0,5459052,full.story


Loaded pistol is found past security position
West concourse evacuated; federal probe is launched

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/204728


 


Of course there have been a couple of "high profile" success cases, like Actor Dennis Farina getting caught in LAX and Govenor Mike Huckabee's son getting caught in LR late last year....



Of course they were to busy sending Sworn LEO's for advanced screening.

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Rated +1 | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

They've done this to me on two occasions, once while flying armed. 


Heck, it's ok...just wait til they come thru my checkpoint.


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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

Tehy're at it again!


TSA detains official from Ron Paul group.


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/06/tsa-detains-official-from-ron-paul-group/


I know this group has a job to do, but why are there so many instances of this kind of insanity?  They want respect, but respect is earned, not gained by intimidation, harrassment, or new uniforms and badges.  When is someone going to hold this group accountable for their actions?


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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

This discussion is eight months old and seems to have run its course.


Closed: 4-8-09.


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